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Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:51:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:I am starting this thread in hopes that maybe it will allow a middle ground to be reached by these teams and CCP. I am inviting every team to share there thoughts and vote about this subject.
I hope that if there is enough support that we will see CCP bend the rules like they did for me and my team that was disbanded a few years ago after the deadline. I believe it worked out for the best and gave the viewers a good show.
My proposal is to allow Outbreak / HYDRA to form a single team, the same for PL / and PL B.
There should be a defending champion at least to defend their title and I would hate to see some the best minds not get into the tourney for a technicality.
I ask kindly to please allow them to reform like you did VOLTRON a few years ago.
Thank you for time.
Wild
Thanks. |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:13:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:DHB WildCat wrote: My proposal is to allow Outbreak / HYDRA to form a single team, the same for PL / and PL B.
I think they should have asked for that before, instead of trying to get both teams in.
Did you notice the bit where Hydra and OB indeed tried to ask about these things before? (See Garmon's post in the locked thread) |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:41:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:I think it's fine you guy's practiced together... But you should only be allowed to try to get into the ATX with 1 team, since you are training together like you were, and because of last year... But I strongly believe at least one of you should be allowed to join this year... even merge a team together if you wish
as a secondary rule, I would think it would be fine if CCP punished any future offenders who left us with a similar battle as last year by simply giving the first price to the team that was beat right before the final match and deny it for the winner... unless they provide us with a EPIC BATTLE!
Sarah xCalibre wrote:Give Hydra and Outbreak one spot together, as the first match they go up against eachother to compete for one spot and give us the real final we missed last year! Would be fun.
Tbh though i want to see them both in there, two of the best damn pvp teams Ive seen in EVE. The Tournament will be a joke now.
I think at this point we would be fine with any suggestions along these lines, tbh (Tho I cannot talk officially) |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:45:00 -
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Siduru wrote:failing in communication with customers could not be more visible as its now with this decision.
shame on you CCP.
Yep, some people seem to forget that the Hydra and Outbreak alliance team members now being shat on are also 50 or so of CCP's customers, many whom have provided CCP in the range of 100+ monthly subs each... And willingly entertained their other customers as well as providing vast amounts of marketing material for free while paying even more for the priviledge... Oh dear. |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:57:00 -
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LooknSee wrote:Raimo wrote:Yep, some people seem to forget that the Hydra and Outbreak alliance team members now being shat on are also 50 or so of CCP's customers, many whom have provided CCP in the range of 100+ monthly subs each... And willingly entertained their other customers as well as providing vast amounts of marketing material for free while paying even more for the priviledge... Oh dear. While there will always be some contrarians, I'd hazard a guess that most spectators did not consider what they saw in last year's final 'entertainment'. I'd hazard another guess and say rigged tournies aren't the sort of free marketing material CCP is looking for from its players. Oh dear.
I dunno, a few 100k's of youtube views on just the AT videos of said teams, "emergent gameplay" "metagaming" quite visible in CCP marketing etc. Most people I know of originally heard of EVE due to one of the many scam stories or other behind-the-scenes- shenanigans like the AT9 final ended up to be... |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:18:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:Suitonia wrote:Rhatar Khurin wrote:LooknSee wrote:[quote=Raimo] The blatant display last year was offensive to people that expected fair play Also i had to buy my mate a round because of that debacle! Before that final i liked both of you guys, now i think you're worse than Goons.. *gasps* yes, i said it... worse than Goons.... Ironically enough the whole reason why the pubbies are justifying us getting banned from the tournament is the exact same reason that pubbies would use to justify CCP mass muting GoonSwarm alliance, or some other ******** heavy handed action. lol, mispost on an alt?
https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Suitonia#employmentHistory /o |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.26 06:34:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:
Also Hydra/Outbreak claim they sent multiple email/petitions to the Alliance Team asking for clarification which supposedly went ignored for weeks. And yet as soon as they form up on SiSi there is the Alliance Team ready to act. Doesn't that seem a little weird to you?
Indeed. |

Raimo
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Posted - 2012.05.26 10:04:00 -
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Field Artillery wrote:It's special because you can point to it as a deus ex machina wildcard to do whatever under an ambiguous rule. It happened and nobody denies it. It doesn't even matter that it happened a month before the tournament and on the test server of all places. That's why it is so special. You can simply overwhelm potential competitors with your poor ruling and thus cast a shadow of poop over the rest of the tournament.
And CCP has not played this well regardless of the intent of Hydra/Outbreak to collude and regardless of the correspondence between them and CCP. You know, warnings are a good thing to use before such drastic action - "It has come to our attention you formed a single corp on SiSi but entered two teams into the draw, we feel this violates rule #whatever, cease this in 24h or there will be consequences". Instead.. welp.
So true. |
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