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OrxaGrondii
Gallente
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2009.07.28 15:44:00 -
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Hello,
I'm a PC user and i want to go to MAc, but my favorite game is eve so :
Can i play correctly to Eve with Mac 15 pouces: 2.53GHz ?
I have 2 user, can as pc i use it in same time ?
I see that parallele soft allow to use windows prog, can i use eve with parallele ?
Thanks for your answer, i'm noob on Mac, and i hesitate to choose Mac :)
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.07.28 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lord XSiV on 28/07/2009 18:35:37
Why would you want to go mac?
Borrow one from a mac user for a month to see if you would actually 'like' it first. Don't worry, mac users don't even use their machines so it won't be an issue for them and they won't give up a chance to try and 'convert' - in that regards they are akin to scientologists..
Ok in all seriousness. If you are looking for a laptop and want to play eve, first figure out your budget. Then get the most for your budget in the following order:
1. Video chipset (highest end nvidia or ati you possibly afford)
2. RAM, as much as possible
3. HD, as much as possible
The remainder:
CPU isn't so much of an issue these days. You won't be able to tell the difference between a 2.6 and 2.93 so don't waste the money. Only thing you have to ask yourself is if you want dual or quad core. Quad of course is better but you will be paying a premium for it.
There are some falsehoods spread by the mac community that you need to know about before making a commitment, which will entail giving up your freedoms as a computer user.
First off, if you are buying from an apple store you will be served by a person who has no clue about computers and would be better off talking to a 4 year old who has mastered a touch and go. The apple people are trained with some script that has a repetitious 'well macs are better' tag line that when challenged enough times cause complete lock up of the individual. If you really want some entertainment, gather up several of the apple people and 'lock' them all up by using one of the display macs to show how 'macs aren't better'. (BTW, in getting this mbp it has made it much more fun as I can easily slip by their perimeter detection by posing as one of their own...)
Second, understand that macos isn't great for computer users who actually know how to use a computer. This will drive you a bit mental for the first while.
Third, macos applications don't run as well as their windows counterparts. This is due to the fact that apple uses a butchered mach kernel and poor userland configuration. Even if you try to fix it yourself (some of actually know how to fix these things) the mac will come back with some violation call claiming your mac is corrupted, the sky is falling, etc, etc and that you have to reinstall. Once you learn to live with the limitations of the gui you can almost function but will still run into from time to time things that don't make sense at all.
Next, you will come to realize the inclusion of low cost hardware components. Primarily video - you would expect a high end card for a machine that claims graphics and video editing its forte but no, they put in a mid line card as the best option you can get.. If that wasn't enough, they don't update the drivers with any reasonable frequency so you are at least 6 months behind when it comes to stability and performance.
Macs don't have quads either as they are typically at least a generation (or 3) behind the rest of the world. A mac users sees computer speed in a totally different way - they just spit back the propaganda they have been told and aren't capable of performing any validation. You can verify yourself by running the same applications under both macos and windows, which you will find time and time again that the windows version performs better. Most important to your decision is that the eve client for mac is an albatross and you will be extremely disappointed coming form a real machine with anything near decent specs.
Anyhow, do your research and actually try one out for yourself. I already knew macs were inferior, as that was the basis of their business model since the creation of apple, but went out with an open mind to at least 'try' the devices and be able to give an objective, educated and experience based opinion. The first couple of days had potential, but it quickly came to a grinding halt when using the device as a 'power user' running what I would typically run on commodity hardware.
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Hagis McBree
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.28 19:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Lord XSiV
stuff
Obvious troll is obvious..
But the troll does make a 3 good points.
Originally by: Lord XSiV
1. Video chipset (highest end nvidia or ati you possibly afford)
2. RAM, as much as possible
3. HD, as much as possible
Eve does work in OSX but it does have some limitations, you can play 2 accounts but you have to tweak the program to work for the 2ed account, there is a good thread in the mac forums devoted to that.
Windowed mode is limited to a set screen size, but there is a great 3rd party app that will fix that and allow you to choose more resolutions while playing in window mode.
Paralleles, Virtual Box, and VM Ware wil allow you to use things like Eve Fitting tool or EveMon but not allow you to play Eve, but if you need to you could always boot into Windows, the install disk has all the drivers for XP, and Vista (32/64 bit), the only thing you will not find is XP64 drivers, but if you need them they are out there.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Can you upgrade your OS X to Leopard? We don't actually provide support for Tiger.
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OrxaGrondii
Gallente
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:07:00 -
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mmm well, thanks very much for your answer,
I want to choose Mac because i'm fed up of the multiple version of windows vista, seven, wich cost each time a lot of money and i want to find on mac stability and a systeme which don't change every two years, with an expensive price.
Due to your answer, i hope that i try mac with this one :
Mac book air
* 2,13 GHz
* Processeur Intel Core 2 Duo avec bus frontal a 1 066 MHz
* 2 Go de MTmoire
* Disque SSD de 128 Go1
* Carte graphique Nvidia GeForce 9400M (256 Mo shared memory)
The price is better and with that it's easier to use it when i moved
i work in transport so it's important for me.
I hope that at hotel, with this configuration i can play to Eve,
you say that perhaps it's less than a pc mmmm i try it, i hope that it's not too bad because
1600Ç for internet and a type writter, it's very expensive. I don't know how it can be to
play eve on 13" screen, i hope that with a good resolution ( 1280 x 800 ) it will be good.
Don't hesitate to ask me for more informations or if you have other thinks to say
thanks
Orxa
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.07.28 23:31:00 -
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Ikes, you could be setting yourself up for a ton of disappointment.
The mac air is just an expensive netbook.
As the mac zealot has already admitted the devices as being inferior, do you still want to consider them?
I will tell you this, you should probably wait for the lenovo ion based netbook to come out. My asus NJ10 is prett slick - outperforms this 17" mbp in eve, weighs less and get this, cost less than 500.
Now your reason for not getting a real machine and going with mac was because of cost. Hate to tell you this but you are signing yourself up for the Jobs' roller coaster nightmare of 'you buy what and when I tell you to'. Apple charges for updates. All software costs for a mac are much higher than the windows counterparts. Hardware costs form apple are really excessive.
Now if you really want to save yourself some money, just get a Microsoft Action Pack Subscription which comes with versions of everything. The cost is what you would pay for one copy of apple macos.
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Htaer
Order of Celestial Knights
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Posted - 2009.07.29 00:53:00 -
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I'm a Mac user and I have to agree that the Macbook Air is a really over-priced notebook. However the new 13 and 15 inch Macbook Pro's are good alternatives. I'm using a new Mac Mini (March of this year) with 2 gigs of DDR3 and it runs EVE quite nicely, with peaks of 90 fps (doesn't sound like much, but it's adequate).
Yes, price matters, but if you're not happy with windows anymore, and it's not worth the hassle, I suggest going with the new aluminum Mackbooks.
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OrxaGrondii
Gallente
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2009.07.29 08:30:00 -
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Tks for your answer,
after this discussion, i decided to don't buy mac for moment, and i search more information from your netbook Asus NJ10.
Well, i'm a pc user, and if i'm not be certain to find an amelioration without pay 3 times the price of a pc, i'm interested but here, i'm not real sure to make a good deal for the moment to buy a mac so, mmmm my next computer seems to be a netbook NJ10 :) lol
I search more information for a pc netbook with best price/performance/size because i use it for transport and i don't want as i already say a too heavy netbook.
Try to check NJ10 ...
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.07.29 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: OrxaGrondii
Tks for your answer,
after this discussion, i decided to don't buy mac for moment, and i search more information from your netbook Asus NJ10.
Well, i'm a pc user, and if i'm not be certain to find an amelioration without pay 3 times the price of a pc, i'm interested but here, i'm not real sure to make a good deal for the moment to buy a mac so, mmmm my next computer seems to be a netbook NJ10 :) lol
I search more information for a pc netbook with best price/performance/size because i use it for transport and i don't want as i already say a too heavy netbook.
Try to check NJ10 ...
There are a few places that have them on sale as they no longer are making them so you can get a good deal on them.
If you want to wait a bit, there is the lenovo (s12 I think) with the ion platform (nvidia gfx) which is pretty dandy.
Good choice though, you probably saved yourself a lot of headache and from kicking yourself while trying to recoup the money that apple scammed out of you.
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Adam Hunt
Caldari
Blood Mercenaries of the Red Hand
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Posted - 2009.08.08 09:24:00 -
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Windows users all seem to have this misconception that in order to actually know how to use a computer, you somehow need to feel like you're trying really hard. This is probably the same line of mental wiring that is convinced that if you use a ratchet you're a sissy and real men tighten bolts with their hard-earned muscles.
You buy a computer because you want to use it for something ù so you buy a computer that does what you need it to do.
Just because you can open up a list of tasks, most of which you don't recognize and whose function you don't understand, try to parse it and then cherry pick which ones to force-quit until a system issue alleviates itself doesn't mean that you're a "power user". It just means you like a computer you have to fight with. By the way Macs can do that too. It's called Activity Monitor.
I had no problem with Windows growing up until I sat down and tried to use it. The operating system is very counter-intuitive so I have to give credit where credit is due. Windows gurus definitely deserve high fives for being able to master and troubleshoot something so unnecessarily complicated.
If you do reconsider Mac in the future I'll say this much. The community is dedicated to helping you grow and understand the operating system, and there are a lot of great ways to ease the switch.
Free workshops every day.
On site technical support.
Memberships you can pay for that let you have private lessons in-store on everything from beginner (what's a mouse?) to switcher (how to do what you already know using Mac), intermediate (lets make a web gallery using your photography), to professional (cutting and editing in Final Cut).
Maybe I've drank the cool-aid, but as someone who suffered through using windows through all of grade and highschool, and a very proud Mac owner, I'm gonna put it like this: bashing Mac OS is so 1997.
Now to address your questions, whether you've closed your mind on the topic or not:
1) Yes. Eve works beautifully on Mac. But you want to look at a Macbook Pro. Macbook (white) and Macbook Air won't really cut it.
2) You can't really actively use them simultaneously but you can have multiple user accounts and they can be logged in (background) so you can switch between them fairly easily.
3) Parallels is a great piece of software, although I've heard VM Fusion has a better design. Don't bother with EVE on Windows. Use the Mac client.
4) As for the above, though, yeah. Windows and Mac on one machine. The end. Just make sure you have your Windows side protected. Mac's a lot more secure.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.08 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Draconis on 08/08/2009 15:31:25
Macbook Pro 15" Aluminum (1.0 Version <before 7Hr Batt>) 2.66 GHz Intel Core Duo
Nvidia GPU with 512MB on board
4GB Ram
250GB HD
EVE Runs fine and looks better than my winblows SLI power hungry money eating beast.
It doesn't have the FPS no thanks to winblows code.... but It's quite enjoyable.
Be sure to have SMC Fancontrol and a heat sponge or your gonna toast your mac out.
You do NOT need alot of HD space... where the hell that came from is beyond me.
The key is GPU Ram and LOTS of RAM... you don't need 8GB... 4 would do nicely.
A Macbook Air is a bad choice... not designed for that kind of abuse.
You could probailly squeek by on a Macbook Pro 13", But the GPU's with 512MB is only available on the Tier 2 Macbook Pro 15"'s.
I've been playing EVE on this mac for some time... no complaints or problems aside from the normal... My windows comp crashes more often than my Mac does (uh... strike that... it doesn't)
I get audio glitches sometimes... but since 10.5.8 came out... got a little bit smoother.
I eagerly await 10.6
:)
PS: I Do not have the extra GPU engaged... don't really need it.. might boost FPS.. but 10C more on the core temp is not what I call a fair trade.
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Dansel
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.09 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dansel on 09/08/2009 08:06:02
I wonder what that guy XSiV is even doing in the mac forums...
Anyways i run EVE on a firstgen MacPro and i have no problems with it. Delivers a great deal of FPS and rarely crashes, much more rarely than on my windows computer.
But, in all honesty, in general Windows does deliver more in the area of game, so if you wanna game, go windows (Windows 7 is actually surprisingly good)
However, if you are inrested in hotoeiting, Movieediting, 3D or software coding, mac is your choie,plus it's safeer
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Cheekything
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.09 14:24:00 -
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A quick but late comment.
In my experience eve on a mac plays better than on a windows based laptop due to the standardised parts.
Your limitations are that eve will only run up to about 30fps due to wine/cider etc.
You can run windows using virtual box for free rather than parallels.
Eve works really well and frankly not dealing with windows vista is the best things ever.
Oh also unlike vista you wont have issues with wireless connections to certain brands of routers.
Lastly a macbook air is a bad choice for eve as it isn't built for a gamer but more business a Pro is more idea (not the 17" as you cant remove the battery fail design), also check the stickied threads as you'll notice that laptops overheat a fair bit when playing eve.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.11 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cheekything
Lastly a macbook air is a bad choice for eve as it isn't built for a gamer but more business a Pro is more idea (not the 17" as you cant remove the battery fail design), also check the stickied threads as you'll notice that laptops overheat a fair bit when playing eve.
/me flashes Apple Care Badge
According to my sources... the reason the batt is non removable is due to fragility... not being an anoyance.
Concidentally.. ALL Macbook Pros and likely future macbooks will be like this.
The batteries are a new state-of-the-art Lithium Polymer design... the 13"/15" Models where rampant with battery failures <rampant as in percentage of failures of the part and not the computer> due to one thing.... user mishandling the product. Batteries would be damaged when removed and reinserted improperly or just by carrying it around or something.
The Batteries are fragile... and don't take kindly to compression or being treated like your average battery of just getting tossed about.
Something to do with the cells being more sensitive... or something.
Therefore apple went and locked I'm out... you can still get to them... but you may void your warranty.
Small price to pay for the 5 to 7 hr batt. :)
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Lo Ram
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:12:00 -
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My road warrior 13 inch 2.53Ghz macbook pro with 4GB RAM plays it fine other than a few particularly complex scenes. Granted if you want to fleet with hundreds for huge battles you'll have to turn off all the effects and would be better off with a 15 inch with dedicated GPU but the 9400M is surprisingly adept on the DDR3 models. I do have a desktop machine as well so my use of small neat notebooks is coloured by the fact I can hop on something more powerful if the need arises.
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Lord Road
Caldari
Deo Optimo Maximo
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Posted - 2009.08.16 11:00:00 -
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I recently got a mac book pro 13.3" for playing EvE. Works fine, can run graphics on high and get around 35 FPS. Bettery lasts around 3 hours or so playing eve.
Another reason you can't remove the battery is they wanted to increase the battery life. In order to do this they used the space that you would of used for the battery cover, release components etc for more cells.
Had no problem with my MBP since they day I got it. My Windows PC now sits and collects dust :)
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Theomythos
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.08.17 14:13:00 -
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Mac Pro 2x4-core Xeon 2.8GHz, 4Gb ram, 8800gt/512mb here.
EVE runs perfectly both under MacOS X 10.5.7 and Windows XP (through the bootcamp).
Tried it under parallels/vmware too (just for fun), it runs but too slow.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.17 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Theomythos
Mac Pro 2x4-core Xeon 2.8GHz, 4Gb ram, 8800gt/512mb here.
EVE runs perfectly both under MacOS X 10.5.7 and Windows XP (through the bootcamp).
Tried it under parallels/vmware too (just for fun), it runs but too slow.
Damn well better... considering the money you spent on that puppy.  
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Zief
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:08:00 -
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*Attention: This thread has been temporarily hijacked*
Troll troll troll troll troll. Egads.
Can't speak to laptops. but I run the Mac Client on a 24" iMac with great success. It's not exactly the same as using a PC (Don't use the #$%damned "mighty mouse" they give you, it's horrible. Just plug in some nice Logitech optical mouse and call it a day, they work perfect) but CCP has improved their mac client a lot lately it seems to me. 2 accounts running does require some tweaking, and the mac client is a HUGE resource hog. Don't plan to be tabbing out to go fart around on your favorite adult pic website much.
The troll is right about one thing, shopping at a mac store is a little like shopping at Ambercrombi and Fitch (or whatever that blaring loud techno clothing store is in every mall in America) You'll be bombarded with rhetoric and "they are just better" by every person there. Eventually you'll start to wonder how on earth all these plucky teenagers can actually keep themselves upright with such a righteous weight bearing down on their shoulders. They'll want to sell you expensive extras and services you'll never use as well, so be prepared.
Mac's are badass computers though, everything from the 6mb L2 cache on almost everything they sell to the beautiful compact brushed aluminum construction. Do they cost more for the end specs? yea. Can you take them apart and upgrade them? No. Are they worth it? TOTALLY. I'm done with PC's for awhile. Till they figure out how to not make a ******ed and backwards operating system that is designed to gouge as much money from the buyer as possible, I'm a Mac Man. Adios Mr. Gates
*We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread*
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.17 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zief
*Attention: This thread has been temporarily hijacked*
Troll troll troll troll troll. Egads.
Can't speak to laptops. but I run the Mac Client on a 24" iMac with great success. It's not exactly the same as using a PC (Don't use the #$%damned "mighty mouse" they give you, it's horrible. Just plug in some nice Logitech optical mouse and call it a day, they work perfect) but CCP has improved their mac client a lot lately it seems to me. 2 accounts running does require some tweaking, and the mac client is a HUGE resource hog. Don't plan to be tabbing out to go fart around on your favorite adult pic website much.
The troll is right about one thing, shopping at a mac store is a little like shopping at Ambercrombi and Fitch (or whatever that blaring loud techno clothing store is in every mall in America) You'll be bombarded with rhetoric and "they are just better" by every person there. Eventually you'll start to wonder how on earth all these plucky teenagers can actually keep themselves upright with such a righteous weight bearing down on their shoulders. They'll want to sell you expensive extras and services you'll never use as well, so be prepared.
Mac's are badass computers though, everything from the 6mb L2 cache on almost everything they sell to the beautiful compact brushed aluminum construction. Do they cost more for the end specs? yea. Can you take them apart and upgrade them? No. Are they worth it? TOTALLY. I'm done with PC's for awhile. Till they figure out how to not make a ******ed and backwards operating system that is designed to gouge as much money from the buyer as possible, I'm a Mac Man. Adios Mr. Gates
*We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread*
I don't think I've laughed that hard in a long time.
As an Apple Professional Tech (Not employed by Apple Corp mind you) I have to agree.
The Apple Stores are just not that bright... and they tend to push useless crap on you... or leave out stupid details that mean a world of difference.
I'm ALWAYS cleaning up there messes.. customers end up in my shop after they bought there stuff from an "Apple Store".
Also keep in mind the cost is the tons of goodies you get in the computer... not just the hardware.
You get windows... you get nothing.... just a bunch of useless garbage.
As far as the EVE Client goes for Mac... just keep these simple things in mind:
1: Get as much RAM as you can... 4GB should be plenty.
2: Get as much VRAM as you can (Thats Video Ram) for the GPU (Graphics Card) as it will take the load off.
3: IF your getting a Laptop.. its Macbook Pro or nuthin.... try to shoot for 15" with 512MB on the GPU... vedy nice... if you can't... you'll be fine... just limited in some degree or another. Watch for heat temperature!
IF your getting an iMac... same rules apply... as much GPU RAM as possible.
At that point... your set... just hang in there a little longer and CCP/Transgaming will polish it off and we'll get the same FPS output the PeeeeeeCeeeeee's will get.
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.18 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dansel
Edited by: Dansel on 09/08/2009 08:06:02
I wonder what that guy XSiV is even doing in the mac forums...
Anyways i run EVE on a firstgen MacPro and i have no problems with it. Delivers a great deal of FPS and rarely crashes, much more rarely than on my windows computer.
But, in all honesty, in general Windows does deliver more in the area of game, so if you wanna game, go windows (Windows 7 is actually surprisingly good)
However, if you are inrested in hotoeiting, Movieediting, 3D or software coding, mac is your choie,plus it's safeer
I actually went out and got a mbp and was sadly disappointed in its performance, lack of support, inability to be configured properly, ugliest hack of a xBSD platform (using a horrible mach kernel I might add) ever seen and a general dissatisfaction with the apple attitude that no one actually knows how to operate a pc therefore apple takes it upon themselves to dictate how a pc is to be used.
Now why did I get a mac? Simple:
1. I wanted to see what the hype was about. Guess I could have just run osx on real pc hardware, but I thought I would give it a fair shake.
2. The hardware looked nice; and if it lived up to expectations, it would have been an ideal platform to use.
3. Tired of the apple community making outrageous claims that when refuted are responded with 'well you wouldn't say that if you owed a mac' (well now I do)
4. I wanted to see how badly apple butchered fbsd userland as there have been quite a few negative comments about the implementation from 'real developers' in the community.
5. To compare it to other user platforms such as BeOS, irix and other BSD carnations for usability.
6. To understand why apple is not accepted by any commercially viable enterprise.
As for posting in this forum, I am just putting facts out there from the perspective of a power user who knows how to operate computer hardware (whether it be pc, big iron or other) and hopefully educating potential buyers so that they don't waste their money on purchasing apple. Eve is a power user game; not one that can be run on inferior hardware, especially that which apple provides at the extreme cost that they do.
Oh, and if you don't think it is a massive money grab on the part of apple, well on the hardware alone the markup is close to 150% and seeing as they outsource their engineering the reduced cost of not having it in-house can do wonders for the bottom line. Mind you, they turn around and spend the savings on mass propaganda marketing campaigns so it somewhat balances out.
And another thing to consider - mac osx software is always more expensive than its regular pc counterparts. Take vmware for example; free for windows/sys v platforms yet there is a charge for the mac version. The reason being that apple has to take their 'cut' of the action.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.18 06:41:00 -
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Windows Forum is that way 
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Real Poison
Minmatar
Stormlord Battleforce
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.18 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Real Poison on 18/08/2009 09:16:08
Originally by: Lord XSiV
And another thing to consider - mac osx software is always more expensive than its regular pc counterparts. Take vmware for example; free for windows/sys v platforms yet there is a charge for the mac version. The reason being that apple has to take their 'cut' of the action.
shouldn't feed the trolls but...
yes the vmware player is free on windows
but fusion has about the same features as vmware workstation for windows which is twice as much as fusion.
but yeah you prolly just downloaded a torrent with a "free" version for you precious windows :P
btw what's your true motivation to spread so much BS on the forums? some might get paranoid and think you're an MS-employee or paid monkey to spread such stupidity. wouldn't be the first time. do you also write paid and faked reviews on amazon? do you get paid more than 50 cents for each crap post?
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Windows Forum is that way
So?
This is the 'mac' forum. I have a mac book pro. Logic would support that posting problems with the apple platform would be appropriate in this forum which is what I am doing.
Hopefully potential buyers will be more informed about making a purchasing decision rather than only having to rely on the marketing propaganda from mass advertising and other scam victims that unwillingly are participating in apple's pyramid scheme.
Now to be constructive as per forum rules, here is some more advice for 'mac users' experiencing problems running eve with their macs.
Viable solutions:
1. Sell your mac and use the proceeds to buy a real computer. Even at a significant loss, you may be able to not have to pay anything additional since you won't be paying the excessive markup apple puts on their products.
2. Donate your mac to a local school or charity. At least then your apple product will have given you some sort of happiness.
3. Purchase Windows 7 when it becomes available. Unfortunately, the inferior hardware and poor engineering of the device will still result in poor performance and eventually fail, but at least you made an attempt.
4. Install other x86 oses and use those platforms. Suggestions include any xBSD, linux distribution, BeOS, Solaris, etc. Then you won't have to pay for updates.
Now the best solution is to never having to get an apple product in the first place, so like everything else that is bad, prevention is the key.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:31:00 -
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Telling the User to get a PC is not what I call a constructive solution in the middle of a Mac Forum Board.
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Dansel
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.18 21:02:00 -
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Isn't the sole fact that a CCP person comes in and edit your post enough to make you realize you're doing something wrong?
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