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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
57
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:37:00 -
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1 Choose system to attack start plexing takes 10-20 minutes per plex to complete
plexing: takes 100 or more plexs to bring a system to a vulnerable state
vulnerable state: destroyer bunker system captured
2 When your tz starts going to bed and logging off for the day glitch 1 or 2 plexs from circulation so they never spawn(until downtime) slowing down counter plexing over the night.
3 repeat for attacking system
1 choose system to defend. start running defensive plexs (oyonata)
2 run as many defensive plexs as you can because the enemy will be their while your sleeping to try to take the system.
3 glitch 1 or 2 plexs from circulation while your asleep so the enemy will take 30-60% longer in taking the system. (oyonata major as of right now)
CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!! |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
Amarr 7th Fleet
7
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:40:00 -
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Also fix this madness:
Vigil running a major solo. My 150+ mil full carebear Vengeance cant run a major solo.
Obligatory tears, to make my fans happy:  |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
268
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:44:00 -
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I will try and look past the fact that you are Flyinghotpocket and say that yes, the ability to "game the system" needs to be fixed ASAP. Just don't pretend both sides aren't abusing the same bug.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
134
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:49:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!!
SoonGäó. They need to consult their metrics.
Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority.
CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
271
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:57:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!! SoonGäó. They need to consult their metrics. Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority. CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger.
Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
57
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:16:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!! SoonGäó. They need to consult their metrics. Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority. CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger. Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.
the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
271
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:11:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!! SoonGäó. They need to consult their metrics. Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority. CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger. Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be. the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar
Of course they do. And of course you don't.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
134
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:51:00 -
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Oh I have no doubt there are elements in Amarr that will choose the easy semi-legal way out if/when possible, have the ones I know of on a 'no contact' list and have left fleets/gangs where such practices were endorsed .. just as I leave fleets that go pirate when there is nothing else in space .. but then again I am a minority of one in the conscientious plexing regard as far as I know 
Conspiracy? Never mentioned the word. Just pointing out that the whole plex mechanic is screwed and broken, has been since the beginning .. they failed horribly trying to marry randomly spawned exploration plexes with that timer.
Every year we have 2-3 major bugs directly associated with the damn plexes, when said bugs are squashed they tend to come back in a mutated form .. so the problem must be in the timer+exploration code but what do I know.
They should replace all timers with a convoluted racing track made up of rings or something .. the fact that the timers have had so many bugs over the years with no work having been done to them directly should be a pretty clear indication that something is amiss (ie. changes elsewhere manifest as bugs in FW).
Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go give my halo a right proper polish. |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
8
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:46:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be.
Well, I did outline the whole bug in other thread and got GM warning about the impending ban-hammer for inappropriate behavior after I examined what gallentes were doing in our front. So if anyone wants to bug plexes, he would have only needed to look into that thread in "issues and whatever" forums.
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Osiris04
Do Not Pass Go
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:28:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be. Well, I did outline the whole bug in other thread and got GM warning about the impending ban-hammer for inappropriate behavior after I examined what gallentes were doing in our front. So if anyone wants to bug plexes, he would have only needed to look into that thread in "issues and whatever" forums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwmzcnCF50 |
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Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
52
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:40:00 -
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Could you please link the thread? I would hate to invalidate pocket's rage by not knowing how to bug plexes.
http://minmatar.eve-kill.net/
http://binaerpilot.no/
GMU d-(---)pu s+++:-- a-- C++++$ U>+++ P+ L+ E---- W+++$ w PS+++ PE-- Y++ PGP-- t+ tv-- b+ D++ G e- h r++ y+* |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
1984
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:47:00 -
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Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
8
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:17:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).
Should this be taken as official minmatar statement that "using any and all bugs without any consideration is a-ok?".
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
1984
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:54:00 -
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Joanna Ramirez wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Give all your ships to Fweddit. (they know how to make better use of them than you do).
Should this be taken as official minmatar statement that "using any and all bugs without any consideration is a-ok?".
You'd be better off taking it as an "official Jade Constantine" statement that I don't believe a word Hot Pockets and Yoshida say.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:36:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar
Confirming i'm in iron oxide.
Just stopping by to tell you how i enjoy the forum rage these days.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1336480#post1336480
pew pew |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
280
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:43:00 -
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Bringing FW to its knees to enable a new system to start fresh.
"working as intended." _ hans herbalgerbilfarmercsmfailure
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
433
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:10:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Vordak Kallager wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:CCP FIX PLEX GLITCHING IN MILITIA NOW!!!!!! SoonGäó. They need to consult their metrics. Entirely expected, behaviour is consistent with what I have seen the past several year, the most prominent among the enemy are honourable enough and avoid deliberately exploiting but they are a minority. CCP took and transformed Amarr FW from being a battle up a gentle slope to one on the north face of the Eiger. Chestbeat and Soap Box all you want, but I know the majority of the Minmatar militia wouldn't even know where to begin if they wanted to glitch a plex. I certainly don't know how to do it. The same is probably true in the Amarr militia. In all likelihood it's just a few people from both sides using this exploit. There isn't some grand conspiracy, Veshta, as much as you'd like there to be. the majority of iron oxide seem to no how to plex glitch anytime they wanna do it. and i can tell you nobody in my alliance openly glitchs plexs against the minmatar Of course they do. And of course you don't.
Why hasn't ccp just fixed this? They are claiming they going to keep iterating on faction war but they don't even fix the bugs that go to the core of faction war and have been identified for months.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cutout Man
Archimedean Point
18
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:41:00 -
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shut up and fight |
Lord Meriak
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
8
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:50:00 -
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This plex really does need to be sorted, The cheating is the core rot, once this is gone Fw will be the iceing on the cake.
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
200
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:58:00 -
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Welcome to how Galentte held and captured many of their systems from Caldari in the weeks prior to the patch. This bug was known about and reported to CCP quite some time ago, but guess the "fix" never made it in the patch much like any other fix.
Fixes < New shiny stuff. |
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Val Erian
Azure Horizon Federate Militia
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:18:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Welcome to how Galentte held and captured many of their systems from Caldari in the weeks prior to the patch. This bug was known about and reported to CCP quite some time ago, but guess the "fix" never made it in the patch much like any other fix.
Fixes < New shiny stuff.
edit..
Gals did this crap as a pretty common tactic.. I don't plex much but in the fights leading up to the patch I was helping when I could and it was a pretty routine thing that we had to send in a fast frig like a Dram to chase some Gal exploiter alt away.
Not only did they have numbers advantage most of the time to win in fights but space ships is such serious business that they also felt the need to exploit these bugs pretty much any chance they got and I'm sure are still doing it now.
Now maybe some of you will understand why many of us have little to no interest in plexing for sov, when CCP can't even be bother to fix long standing issues like this.
Gee... welcome to the 'Gallentes are exploiters' team in Fw. Your usual wall of clueless text now full of outright lies.
Most likely you have no idea what triggers this bug or what people are actualy talking about in this thread that casues plexs to not close properly. and then not respawn till DT.
Its due to pilots from opposing sides being on the timer at the same time..... this does tend to happen when plexs are fought over.
Leaving a ship inside a plex after it closes isnt an exploit. As you said you can chase it out. And if you doubt it you can ask CCP . Go ahead. But facts would disrupt your PR narrative.
If you have any questions tho why dont you ask your premier plexxing guy Damar?
He is Officialy Certified Exploit Expert. He was so proud of it even posted the warning he got from CCP !
There is a whole thread discussing it in great detail. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98109&find=unread |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
202
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:21:00 -
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Val Erian wrote:Mutnin wrote:Welcome to how Galentte held and captured many of their systems from Caldari in the weeks prior to the patch. This bug was known about and reported to CCP quite some time ago, but guess the "fix" never made it in the patch much like any other fix.
Fixes < New shiny stuff.
edit..
Gals did this crap as a pretty common tactic.. I don't plex much but in the fights leading up to the patch I was helping when I could and it was a pretty routine thing that we had to send in a fast frig like a Dram to chase some Gal exploiter alt away.
Not only did they have numbers advantage most of the time to win in fights but space ships is such serious business that they also felt the need to exploit these bugs pretty much any chance they got and I'm sure are still doing it now.
Now maybe some of you will understand why many of us have little to no interest in plexing for sov, when CCP can't even be bother to fix long standing issues like this. Gee... welcome to the 'Gallentes are exploiters' team in Fw. Your usual wall of clueless text now full of outright lies. Most likely you have no idea what triggers this bug or what people are actualy talking about in this thread that casues plexs to not close properly. and then not respawn till DT. Its due to pilots from opposing sides being on the timer at the same time..... this does tend to happen when plexs are fought over. Leaving a ship inside a plex after it closes isnt an exploit. As you said you can chase it out. And if you doubt it you can ask CCP . Go ahead. But facts would disrupt your PR narrative. If you have any questions tho why dont you ask your premier plexxing guy Damar? He is Officialy Certified Exploit Expert. He was so proud of it even posted the warning he got from CCP ! There is a whole thread discussing it in great detail.
Look a special appearance from bug master Val Erian himself. |
Val Erian
Azure Horizon Federate Militia
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:28:00 -
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Since you are unable to find basic facts yourself:......
GM Rely to your plex buddy Damar rocarion when he engaged in the same butthurt whinefest you are doing atm:
Posted: 2012.04.20 03:01 | Report | Edited by: GM Zerat
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This is a bug, and is scheduled to be fixed in a future patch. Abusing this intentionally is NOT allowed. Period.
Accidentally triggering this effect is of course not the same thing.
The afk cloaking scenario was deemed normal game mechanics and no bug was being abused there. They are separate cases. This has nothing to do with the Gallente or Caldari militias, both sides can abuse this bug.
Also note that our rulings here may seem inconsistent, because it is often difficult to verify someone's intention when this bug happens. We cannot take any action against a player where we aren't reasonably sure they were doing this intentionally. You have openly stated to us that you are doing this intentionally, so there is no argument there
Main probalem ofc is that CCP hasnt foxed this glaring bug. So it ruins gameplay and poisens everything.
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
143
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Posted - 2012.05.25 22:46:00 -
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So reports from Amarr/Shakorite front of 2-3 plexes being absent until DT in an overtly targeted system are down to accidental triggering of a bug .. sounds entirely plausible!
Honour, Integrity .. oh how I miss you.
Problem isn't so much that FW'ers abuse the crap of whatever can be abused, but that CCP first create the bugs by changing whatever in their precious database and then can't bloody fix it afterwards.
Without having access to metrics, I bet FW plexes are probably one the items that have had the most bug/exploit tickets over the years and the least amount of man-hours dedicated to them. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
279
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Posted - 2012.05.26 00:24:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:So reports from Amarr/Shakorite front of 2-3 plexes being absent until DT in an overtly targeted system are down to accidental triggering of a bug .. sounds entirely plausible! Honour, Integrity .. oh how I miss you. Problem isn't so much that FW'ers abuse the crap of whatever can be abused, but that CCP first create the bugs by changing whatever in their precious database and then can't bloody fix it afterwards. Without having access to metrics, I bet FW plexes are probably one the items that have had the most bug/exploit tickets over the years and the least amount of man-hours dedicated to them.
People might take you more seriously if you throw in some accusations of IRL harassment about pedophilia into your spiel.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
258
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Posted - 2012.05.26 08:04:00 -
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CCP stop harvesting my carebear tears and fix this bug! I ran a major plex and it bugged so I gotz no LP  |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
144
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Posted - 2012.05.26 08:55:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:People might take you more seriously if you throw in some accusations of IRL harassment about pedophilia into your spiel.
Huh?
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Gullibility Fool
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.05.26 09:07:00 -
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What? MInmatar militia exploiting? Never...... |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
11
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Posted - 2012.05.26 14:14:00 -
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I've only ever seen this bug triggered accidentally tbh. But hey keep whining about some mythical minmatar/CCP conspiracy...it'll at least distract attention from the fact amarr plexes are so easy even a dead hedgehog could solo them. |
Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc
Late Night Alliance
166
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Posted - 2012.05.26 14:53:00 -
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Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:I've only ever seen this bug triggered accidentally tbh. But hey keep whining about some mythical minmatar/CCP conspiracy...it'll at least distract attention from the fact amarr plexes are so easy even a dead hedgehog could solo them.
LOL
http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |
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