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Veritas Titan
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:35:00 -
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I'm only asking cause im new and the time it take to train in a skill is insane.  |

malaire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:36:00 -
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No, EVE has only been around since 2003 so there hasn't been enough time yet.  New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:36:00 -
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dotn think anyone has all skills to V. at least, not yet. think theres too many.... |

Sentient Blade
Walk It Off Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:38:00 -
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Sounds like a John Turbefield question. |

Veritas Titan
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:42:00 -
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the only thing turning me away from the game right now is that the game is really just setting up the skill que and logging off. i just want to mine and build, but i gotta wait 2 weeks before i can? this game definitely isn't new player friendly. |

Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:44:00 -
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I'm sure there's someone out there who has trained all their skills to V, like single purpose-built alts. But all skills in EVE, as said, not enough time for that. It would take 50 years or something, can't remember, but way more time than EVE has existed.
Edit: Lvl4 is enough for most everything, lvl5 is just for people who are obsessed getting the last pieces of juice out of something, or people who have run out of other things to train.
Also, you apparently weren't around when we had learning skills. You had to spend a month before you could start training anything else. |

Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:44:00 -
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You can "mine and build" on day 1 - just do the industry tutorial.
From then on it's just a matter of getting better at mining and building with time. |

Beledia Ilphukiir
Proffessional Experts Group
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:47:00 -
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I remember seeing it being calculated once and the skill plan at that time took over two decades to complete, so no one will have them trained for a long long time. CCP is also adding new skills, so that time will propably go up as time passes. The key is to try out different things at a low skill level and then specialize in the activities/ships you enjoy. |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
510
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:51:00 -
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As far as I know Dr Caymus is the player with the most skillpoints in the game. In a few months he'll reach 200M SP and still have tons of skills not at level 5. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:52:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:the only thing turning me away from the game right now is that the game is really just setting up the skill que and logging off. i just want to mine and build, but i gotta wait 2 weeks before i can? this game definitely isn't new player friendly.
So with all the variety of things you can do in EVE you feel that the game holds nothing for you until you've trained up the skills to mine and build.
I feel a /facebrick coming on folks. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:53:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:the only thing turning me away from the game right now is that the game is really just setting up the skill que and logging off. i just want to mine and build, but i gotta wait 2 weeks before i can? this game definitely isn't new player friendly.
Do all that you can with the skills that you have. You want fries with that? |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:54:00 -
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Someone calculated it once but I can not find it right now, anyway it came down then to 21 years I think.  Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:55:00 -
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It'll be about another 10 years before anyone can get thereGǪ
Just so you know what you're looking at here:
Corporaton Management GÇö 29 ranks GåÆ 7,424,000 SP Drones GÇö 83 ranks GåÆ 21,248,000 SP Electronics GÇö 76 ranks GåÆ 19,456,000 SP Engineering GÇö 61 ranks GåÆ 15,616,000 SP Gunnery GÇö 178 ranks GåÆ 45,568,000 SP Industry GÇö 95 ranks GåÆ 24,320,000 SP Leadership GÇö 62 ranks GåÆ 15,872,000 SP Mechanics GÇö 137 ranks GåÆ 35,072,000 SP Missiles GÇö 94 ranks GåÆ 24,064,000 SP Navigation GÇö 38 ranks GåÆ 9,728,000 SP Planetary Management GÇö 17 ranks GåÆ 4,352,000 SP Science GÇö 267 ranks GåÆ 68,352,000 SP Social GÇö 20 ranks GåÆ 5,120,000 SP Spaceship Command GÇö 458 ranks GåÆ 117,248,000 SP Subsystems GÇö 20 ranks GåÆ 5,120,000 SP Trade GÇö 35 ranks GåÆ 8,960,000 SP
Gêæ 427,520,000 SP
At current max training speed, that takes 18 years, 27 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 27 seconds to complete (not counting leap years GÇö you can fit three or four in there). GǪand that's just counting the official skills GÇö not some of the abandoned ones that people have spent time training, and it also assumes you can maintain full speed at all times, which you can't. So in reality, it's both more SP and a slower training speed.
They're planning to add another 24 ranks to Spaceship Command, which would require another 94 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes and 20 seconds.
Enjoy!  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
262
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:59:00 -
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I think the max is something like 400 mill SP+, and no one has hit 200 mill in 9 years.
SP is contextual, but I felt your pain when I started, it doesn't last and you get to respect the training times.
If you can suggest a fair and balanced alternative to SP training, be our guest.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:08:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:the only thing turning me away from the game right now is that the game is really just setting up the skill que and logging off. i just want to mine and build, but i gotta wait 2 weeks before i can? this game definitely isn't new player friendly.
You have the wrong attitude, you are playing this game with the mindset of a Theme Park mmo Player, this is not that type of game. There is no endgame in EvE, this is a sandbox.
I can give you my example, i stopped playing for 1 year and when i returned i Biomassed everything .
I started from zero, fresh start, zero Skill Points.
Knowledge is power in EvE Online, not Skills Points. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |

Cutter Isaacson
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:10:00 -
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Stealth NickYo whine thread detected? |

Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:13:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Knowledge is power in EvE Online, not Skills Points.
My point exactly. If the OP is only logging in to put skills in the queue and waiting until they can jump in the hulk and build using the perfect quantities in the blueprint they're missing out on some vital aspects of the game.
Actually spending some time playing and learning how the game works will be more valuable than just having perfect skills for mining and manufacturing. Perhaps this is why some people find the game so difficult, they focus on just the skills and getting the ships and neglect actually picking up the player experience of the game that goes around all of that. Then they come to the forums surprised and angry when something doesn't go their way. If they'd spent time in EVE figuring things out they probably wouldn't have had such a negative experience and they'd understand what had happened and why. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |

Kurama Bingyi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:14:00 -
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You can start mining and building through the Industry tutorial and then build off your skills from there. Skills are useful in progressing that, but a lot of them aren't really necessary to start.
Find the Frigate in your race's category that has bonuses to Mining Yield and Cargo Capacity. Buy a basic T1 Mining Laser and head out to a hi-sec asteroid. "Nay," responded Kurama Bingyi, "to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet - to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best." |

Endeavour Starfleet
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:44:00 -
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From what I understand is that overall they add more skills faster than they can be trained. So nobody has them all yet and likely never will. |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
369
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:45:00 -
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As far as I can remember, all skills to level V is about 430mil SP. As the highest SP character is just under 200mil, no one is even half way there yet. Damn nature, you scary! |

Gerald Taric
Adamantium Industry
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:At current max training speed, that takes 18 years, 27 days, 12 hours, [...] Enjoy!  Thanks for the details :).
Then this means somehow, that you as player have to decide, where you want to have your specialisation. You can't be "fully max. skilled" in everything - at least not within usual time ranges.
This enlarges the probability for differences between skill setups. That's GOOD!
It is just consequent: In EVE you have to ponder risk versus profit, to make priorities, to make allies. You can't have all. Or just create multible accounts and pay extraordinary much money/time for it 
I like that!  |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:45:00 -
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Im very near to completing all sub cap ships, t2 module, missiles, guns and drone skills to lvl 5, probably just a few months left to go :)
Perfectly skilled in any subcap combat ships etc.
I have a funny video of some friends checking it out and shouting about how unfair it was when i opened my 40 million SP spaceship command when a huge list of lvl 5s that didnt even fit on the screen LOL http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |

Selinate
891
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:54:00 -
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Veritas Titan wrote:the only thing turning me away from the game right now is that the game is really just setting up the skill que and logging off. i just want to mine and build, but i gotta wait 2 weeks before i can? this game definitely isn't new player friendly.
This game has never been new player friendly. MMO's that are a few years old, by default, usually aren't, and Eve isn't an exception at all.
If you wait about 6 months, then Eve will start to get more fun... |
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