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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 01:17:00 -
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Whilst I might agree that not being able to contract damaged crystals is a bit annoying at times the arguments of omg I can't contract my lazor bs with used crystals in them is a bit bogus. Take them off after you dock up if you think you might have to contract the whole ship at some time. Not the moast elegant of solutions but at least its doable now and is about as much of a hassle as opening a door.
 Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hairygoagain
Originally by: Zeba
Whilst I might agree that not being able to contract damaged crystals is a bit annoying at times the arguments of omg I can't contract my lazor bs with used crystals in them is a bit bogus. Take them off after you dock up if you think you might have to contract the whole ship at some time. Not the moast elegant of solutions but at least its doable now and is about as much of a hassle as opening a door.
And if the used crystals are in your cargo hold, the place that every other type of ammo is allowed to be when you contract a ship........
The problem is that crystals can't be contracted, because they are used/broken AND crystals can't be repaired. One of these needs to be changed....
Well the whole point of using the workaround is to be able to contract your laser ship at any time. So why would you have put them in the cargohold? I'm not saying that some other solution doesn't need to be made but atm until a solution is made then that is your best bet to not get caught out 50 jumps away with a bs you want to contract is loaded with used crystals.
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Areah Mar'khet
Originally by: Zeba
Whilst I might agree that not being able to contract damaged crystals is a bit annoying at times the arguments of omg I can't contract my lazor bs with used crystals in them is a bit bogus. Take them off after you dock up if you think you might have to contract the whole ship at some time. Not the moast elegant of solutions but at least its doable now and is about as much of a hassle as opening a door.
Yeah, it's so obvious, every time someone docks a ship with used crystals they should just use their magic crystal ball to see if they're going to need to contract it a year later. That's what I do and it totally works.
The point is if you have a laser ship and know you are probably going to be away from said ship then take off the crystals. 12 seconds of :effort: later any future contracting problems are now solved.
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Allowing damaged items to be contracted would benefit scammers. We do not intend to allow damaged items to be contracted.
If the damage (if any) is clearly labeled on the contract item list (maybe in the first column), then it's a open-and-shut case of "caveat emptor", and not your responsability anymore.
Besides, since when did you start hand-holding people ?
It's not like you refuse labeling the contract containing 1 unit of Carbon as "Charon, extra cheap, 600 mil ISK"...
Currently, the item list in each contract only has 2 columns - item type & quantity. The query from which the contract is generated only needs to look at 2 tables- global typeID-related stuff, and the contents of the source hangar for the quantities. As the database is fully normalised, I suspect that the information about crystal damage is held in a separate table, very much like the runs field that distinguishes BPCs from BPOs. As such, it's difficult to see how CCP could add it to contracts without significantly increasing the load on the database.
And in order to achive greater levels of stable fleet pew pew everything that is not 100% needed is not added. I'm going to assume ccp feels that the number of agitated damaged crystal owners is less than critcal mass in the greater scheme of things. 
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hairygoagain
Wow\, lots of people posting here who have obviously never used a laser on a ship:
1. To those that say 'Just remove them from the weapons, like other guns'. Nice idea, but what about the ones in your cargo hold?
I'm going to go out on a limb here and please correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't you take them out of the cargo hold at the same time as you take them out of the weapons? Dunno, just an odd thought that crossed my mind.
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Enkidu Uruksen
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Allowing damaged items to be contracted would benefit scammers. We do not intend to allow damaged items to be contracted.
OK, fine. What do you suggest we do with damaged crystals that we can't use? Trash them?
Keep a spare set in the cargohold which will automatically switch out when a crystal breaks? It's not like there is a 10 second reload when that happens. 
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.01 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 01/08/2009 20:52:22
Originally by: Enkidu Uruksen
I don't use weapon crystals. I've picked some up from wrecks. They're useful to somebody, but not to me, so there should be a way to get isk for them, such as reprocessing for whatever percent is left on them. Clearer?
Sell, trade or give them to a trusted corp mate who uses t2 lasers then drop them in a can in space or open a trade window to finish the deal? Sheese you guys are not very creative.
Originally by: Vaden Khale
He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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