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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 166	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:37:00 - [1] - Quote Nice one CCP.
Sarah xCalibre Paradox Collective Choke Point 17	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:38:00 - [2] - Quote Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? Director of FLA5HY RED - Sarah xCalibre
Hecater Scullthrone 5	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:38:00 - [3] - Quote CCP's revenge > participants motivation
Spark's Terra Hawks The Initiative. 5	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:41:00 - [4] - Quote who said Hydra and OB where going to win this year? All down to theories. And also, don't you mean Second. seeing as Hydra and Outbreak are A and B teams?
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 166	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:41:00 - [5] - Quote Do you reckon they can still give Hydra the caldari ship BPCs and the winners will just get some medals?
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 166	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:43:00 - [6] - Quote Spark's wrote: who said Hydra and OB where going to win this year? All down to theories. And also, don't you mean Second. seeing as Hydra and Outbreak are A and B teams? No I mean 3rd, because they are still 2 teams. I'd have liked for someone to prove that hydra wouldn't win rather than hear it on the forums.
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania Exanthesis Attero Alliance 15	Posted - 2012.05.25 16:43:00 - [7] - Quote You mean 4th place, right? Because if CCP couldn't justify these bans with everyone's "butt-hurt" over last years final, they would be unable to justify banning YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT also. Let all 3 teams back in, make your policy official and in effect right after AT X ends, and make sure your "Senior" GMs understand the very rules they are to enforce. It's not to late to douse the flames CCP.
EvilweaselSA GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 75	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:09:00 - [8] - Quote oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes
Michael Harari The Hatchery Team Liquid 104	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:12:00 - [9] - Quote Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote: You mean 4th place, right? Because if CCP couldn't justify these bans with everyone's "butt-hurt" over last years final, they would be unable to justify banning YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT also. Right, sniggwaffe is known for winning all the time.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 166	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote EvilweaselSA wrote: oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes A goon in its natural habitat, failing both maths and english in a single line. Unless you really think the AT Cerbs will be worth 40bn?
Sarah xCalibre Paradox Collective Choke Point 17	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:13:00 - [11] - Quote EvilweaselSA wrote: oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes Oh yeah maybe goons have a chance this year. Director of FLA5HY RED - Sarah xCalibre
EvilweaselSA GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 75	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:15:00 - [12] - Quote IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote: EvilweaselSA wrote: oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes A goon in its natural habitat, failing both maths and english in a single line. Unless you really think the AT Cerbs will be worth 40bn? you mean like every other year where they have been you know i just think it might be possible
EvilweaselSA GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 75	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:15:00 - [13] - Quote Sarah xCalibre wrote: EvilweaselSA wrote: oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes Oh yeah maybe goons have a chance this year. don't be absurd
Intigo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 34	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:19:00 - [14] - Quote EvilweaselSA wrote: IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote: EvilweaselSA wrote: oh dear the "third place" team will have to console themselves with their 2 trillion isk in prizes A goon in its natural habitat, failing both maths and english in a single line. Unless you really think the AT Cerbs will be worth 40bn? you mean like every other year where they have been you know i just think it might be possible They haven't been worth 40bn consistently.
Lemster Disconnected. Choke Point 7	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:21:00 - [15] - Quote Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;)
Intigo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 34	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:23:00 - [16] - Quote Lemster wrote: Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;) So when Outbreak beat DS in the semifinals they were "cheating"? When HYDRA beat PL in the group stages they were "cheating"?
Sarah xCalibre Paradox Collective Choke Point 18	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:32:00 - [17] - Quote Lemster wrote: Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;) Cheating? Id understand this if hydra pilots were logging in the outbreak peoples accounts and fought or the other way around, but other then that? Seriously? Id like to think that if they were "cheating" they would have been removed. I see two teams that trained together really hard and ****** up the rest. Doesnt really matter to me who of Outbreak and Hydra won, but they won fair and square according to the rules, in fact I dont see hydra as the winner I see hydra and outbreak as the winners. Director of FLA5HY RED - Sarah xCalibre
Lemster Disconnected. Choke Point 7	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:36:00 - [18] - Quote Intigo wrote: Lemster wrote: Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;) So when Outbreak beat DS in the semifinals they were "cheating"? When HYDRA beat PL in the group stages they were "cheating"? It's kinda hard to know isn't it? All we can be sure of is that you competed dishonestly, the extent is unknown. Is not a very tenable to position to obviously throw a match then turn up here asking us to have faith in your honest conduct in rest of that competition (IX).
Lemster Disconnected. Choke Point 7	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:39:00 - [19] - Quote Sarah xCalibre wrote: Lemster wrote: Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;) Cheating? Id understand this if hydra pilots were logging in the outbreak peoples accounts and fought or the other way around, but other then that? Seriously? Id like to think that if they were "cheating" they would have been removed. I see two teams that trained together really hard and ****** up the rest. Doesnt really matter to me who of Outbreak and Hydra won, but they won fair and square according to the rules, in fact I dont see hydra as the winner I see hydra and outbreak as the winners. You know what though. I should probably avoid the word cheat as that's debateable based on symantics. Probably the better phrase is 'did not win on pure pvp skill, did not keep to the spirit of the competition and kinda screwed the whole thing up for eveyone'......or something like that.
Raimo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 52	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:41:00 - [20] - Quote Lemster wrote: Intigo wrote: So when Outbreak beat DS in the semifinals they were "cheating"? When HYDRA beat PL in the group stages they were "cheating"? It's kinda hard to know isn't it? All we can be sure of is that you competed dishonestly, the extent is unknown.. Oh really, competed dishonestly how?
Hannah Ganktannah Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:43:00 - [21] - Quote Lemster wrote: Intigo wrote: Lemster wrote: Sarah xCalibre wrote: Thats kinda how it feels isnt it? If the denfending champions cant come you might as well just take it out entirely, isnt that the ones you want to beat? They obviously cheated, so I'm not sure there's many who'd consider them genuine, kosher type champions. I'd consider the alliance who finished in the highest position without cheating to be the best pvpers and the ones to beat. But that's just me ;) So when Outbreak beat DS in the semifinals they were "cheating"? When HYDRA beat PL in the group stages they were "cheating"? It's kinda hard to know isn't it? All we can be sure of is that you competed dishonestly, the extent is unknown. Is not a very tenable to position to obviously throw a match then turn up here asking us to have faith in your honest conduct in rest of that competition (IX). MAY I POINT OUT THAT IF YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED PANDEMIC LEGION AND DARKSIDE FORUM POSTS HAVE NOT SIGNALED THE FONDEST MEMORIES BETWEEN THEM AND HYDRA JUST SAYING
Lemster Disconnected. Choke Point 7	Posted - 2012.05.25 17:57:00 - [22] - Quote Raimo wrote: Lemster wrote: Intigo wrote: So when Outbreak beat DS in the semifinals they were "cheating"? When HYDRA beat PL in the group stages they were "cheating"? It's kinda hard to know isn't it? All we can be sure of is that you competed dishonestly, the extent is unknown.. Oh really, competed dishonestly how? Match fixing usually falls under that category. Anyways, that's worked out my post-work need to rant. Apologies if any of it went beyond fair. Still absolutely support ccp's efforts to have a pvp competition where people actually compete. Will check in tomorrow for more tears ;) o/
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 508	Posted - 2012.05.25 18:15:00 - [23] - Quote Lemster wrote: Still absolutely support ccp's efforts to have a pvp competition where people actually compete. How quick we jump on the barricades to defend events like Jita Burn and Hulkageddon since those things fit in the sandbox created by CCP. But all of a sudden the sandbox get's all kind of rules that don't apply in EVE and we are fine with that? Metagaming is just as much part as bribery and ransoming. Yet those are not allowed in CCP's trojan horse of promotion.
Suitonia Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 65	Posted - 2012.05.25 18:40:00 - [24] - Quote We obviously cheated because we made it to the finals with both teams by winning against every other team in the alliance tournament.
Faffywaffy Fremen Sietch DarkSide. 25	Posted - 2012.05.25 22:29:00 - [25] - Quote If Outbreak hadn't fixed their match against Razor in the group stage, they would have had to fight Hydra in the semifinals and only one of their teams would have gotten to the final. Even if Hydra/Outbreak really did deserve 1st place (which I would probably be willing to admit), you can't argue that they also deserved 2nd place.
Kaleesa Disconnected. Choke Point 2	Posted - 2012.05.26 03:38:00 - [26] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: Lemster wrote: Still absolutely support ccp's efforts to have a pvp competition where people actually compete. How quick we jump on the barricades to defend events like Jita Burn and Hulkageddon since those things fit in the sandbox created by CCP. But all of a sudden the sandbox get's all kind of rules that don't apply in EVE and we are fine with that? Metagaming is just as much part as bribery and ransoming. Yet those are not allowed in CCP's trojan horse of promotion. The alliance tournament is not The same as the game itself. Tournaments must have rules and those rules must be abided, you should know that KG. also, hi :)
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service 32	Posted - 2012.05.26 06:44:00 - [27] - Quote Lemster wrote: Probably the better phrase is 'did not win on pure pvp skill.... Wait wut? Wasn't there like a whole bunch of other matches between the beginning of the tourney and the finals where both teams utterly kicked ass? I seriously question your credibility good sir!
Raimo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 52	Posted - 2012.05.26 06:44:00 - [28] - Quote Killer Gandry wrote: How quick we jump on the barricades to defend events like Jita Burn and Hulkageddon since those things fit in the sandbox created by CCP. But all of a sudden the sandbox get's all kind of rules that don't apply in EVE and we are fine with that? Metagaming is just as much part as bribery and ransoming. Yet those are not allowed in CCP's trojan horse of promotion. CCP wants their (double-) paying promotional knights in shining armor pure and virtuous~
Lucas Quaan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 24	Posted - 2012.05.26 07:50:00 - [29] - Quote Michael Harari wrote: Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote: You mean 4th place, right? Because if CCP couldn't justify these bans with everyone's "butt-hurt" over last years final, they would be unable to justify banning YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT also. Right, sniggwaffe is known for winning all the time. Much like Hydra and 0utbreak are known for winning every year, yes.
Intigo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 38	Posted - 2012.05.26 08:33:00 - [30] - Quote Lucas Quaan wrote: Michael Harari wrote: Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote: You mean 4th place, right? Because if CCP couldn't justify these bans with everyone's "butt-hurt" over last years final, they would be unable to justify banning YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT also. Right, sniggwaffe is known for winning all the time. Much like Hydra and 0utbreak are known for winning every year, yes. Since getting rid of Gobbins HYDRA had a 100% win rate.

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