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Illwen Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.31 23:30:00 - [1] I have a toon I'm considering making a carebear, solely for the sake of making ISK. What do you experienced miners believe someone who just trained a Hulk can make per hour?
Princess Loretta	Posted - 2009.07.31 23:41:00 - [2] There is a post on this page with a similar question. The answer depends on where you're mining but as you're new I will guess it is in hi-sec. Just mine Veldspar - honestly this is the quickest answer to your question without you working out the maths for yourself. As in the other post - doing level 4 missions is way more lucrative when you have the skills. Train them up while you mine.
Illwen Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.31 23:47:00 - [3] I wouldn't call myself new, I've been playing for 2 years old an off actually. Anyways, I'd most likely have access to 0.0 mining. What do you think I could average there?
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.01 00:12:00 - [4] Edited by: Zex Maxwell on 01/08/2009 00:13:35 Originally by: Illwen I wouldn't call myself new, I've been playing for 2 years old an off actually. Anyways, I'd most likely have access to 0.0 mining. What do you think I could average there? Depending on where you mine, you can make 22M to 100M an hour. This is If you have MAX hulk skills and Max Orca skilled pilot with you. If you are a noob at mining, and you don't have a lot of money on you. I suggest you stay in empire(22M~) If you have like a few bill laying around, then go ahead an mine in 0.0. Keep in mind you will need a way to tank the 0.0 rats (Or kill them) and need a mining camp(POS)/station to mine into. Rorquals and Orcas come in handy.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.08.01 00:30:00 - [5] Edited by: Akita T on 01/08/2009 00:34:40 Originally by: Zex Maxwell to 100M an hour ...not with a single Hulk, you won't, no matter how good the gang is nor what ore/ice you might have access to - even assuming no taxes whatsoever, maxed-out everything and so on and so forth, you're still slightly below 100m per hour... and you WON'T get away without some hefty taxes if you're mining in such a gang. 50m per hour per Hulk in a decent gang, after all contributions and taxes, that's much more realistic. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Dennmoth Ferdier The Scope	Posted - 2009.08.01 00:33:00 - [6] Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 01/08/2009 00:35:41 Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 01/08/2009 00:34:05 Mine prime arkonor 45-60 mil isk per hour plus hauling on top of that, refine at 5-30% loss at an outpost, lose a hulk every month or every other, sell minerals at ripoff discount to corp or dangerously haul it to highsec OR pay someone to haul it to highsec. or Mine veldspar 7 mil per hour, haul to the station, refine at zero loss, few percent tax maybe, sell away instantly for a minor profit loss or sell order and get the money with a bit of a delay. I've come to the conclusion, having done both for a long time, that the latter will end up profiting you more, in terms of mental health and isk. ------ Dare to challenge me?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.08.01 00:36:00 - [7] Yeah, mining sucks as solo pilot income source. L4 missions or trade is where the real carebearing's at EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.01 01:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 01/08/2009 00:34:40 Originally by: Zex Maxwell to 100M an hour ...not with a single Hulk, you won't, no matter how good the gang is nor what ore/ice you might have access to - even assuming no taxes whatsoever, maxed-out everything and so on and so forth, you're still slightly below 100m per hour... and you WON'T get away without some hefty taxes if you're mining in such a gang. 50m per hour per Hulk in a decent gang, after all contributions and taxes, that's much more realistic. "Depending on where you mine, you can make 22M to 100M an hour. This is If you have MAX hulk skills and Max Orca skilled pilot with you." Please reread before you post. As for taxes, well kiss some asses and you dont have to pay tax. I also have 3 accounts. so my money gets pooled to 1 account.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.08.01 02:03:00 - [9] Originally by: Zex Maxwell Originally by: Akita T even assuming no taxes whatsoever, maxed-out everything and so on and so forth, you're still slightly below 100m per hour Please reread before you post. Back to you Quote: As for taxes, well kiss some asses and you dont have to pay tax. You'd have to kiss a LOT of asses to not pay any kind of taxes. And how exactly do you propose that "ass-kissing" to be performed, if not in form of an ISK bribe ? And if in form of ISK, doesn't that count as some form of tax too ? You'd normally pay a portion of the income for the gang booster (ok, maybe you could skip that now and then, especially in larger gangs), you'd also pay some for the haulers (not so easy), and most importantly, you'd have to pay refine taxes (no idea how you propose to get rid of those)... and then, you have to sell the minerals, and I doubt you can get the prices which would get you nearly 100 mil per hour raw if you don't move the minerals to a trade hub (in case AGAIN, that's some extra tax). Oh, and good luck NOT paying anybody for security in any way, shape of form - I suppose all your Hulks can tank most NPC spawns and also never get jumped by any reds (or maybe neutrals). So... yeah... EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.01 02:06:00 - [10] Edited by: Zex Maxwell on 01/08/2009 02:14:18 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Zex Maxwell Originally by: Akita T even assuming no taxes whatsoever, maxed-out everything and so on and so forth, you're still slightly below 100m per hour Please reread before you post. Back to you Quote: As for taxes, well kiss some asses and you dont have to pay tax. You'd have to kiss a LOT of asses to not pay any kind of taxes. And how exactly do you propose that "ass-kissing" to be performed, if not in form of an ISK bribe ? And if in form of ISK, doesn't that count as some form of tax too ? You'd normally pay a portion of the income for the gang booster (ok, maybe you could skip that now and then, especially in larger gangs), you'd also pay some for the haulers (not so easy), and most importantly, you'd have to pay refine taxes (no idea how you propose to get rid of those)... and then, you have to sell the minerals, and I doubt you can get the prices which would get you nearly 100 mil per hour raw if you don't move the minerals to a trade hub (in case AGAIN, that's some extra tax). Oh, and good luck NOT paying anybody for security in any way, shape of form - I suppose all your Hulks can tank most NPC spawns and also never get jumped by any reds (or maybe neutrals). So... yeah... OK! In the mind of a 1 man mining fleet, its possible to get CLOSE! to 100M. A few months ago, I was able to rent 1 system for mining. 300M, 100M per person. had a POS to mine into and safety, 50M a month for fuel. Reds, and neutrals, hardly around, so no need for protection, so I guess put that cost under the rent. I also moved my minerals through gate camps with transports, small loads. so that's like 3 - 5 hours of mining a month to pay for that. the rest is profits.

Jagga Spikes Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.08.01 07:02:00 - [11] would it be possible to get a calculation for the 100mil figure, please?
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.01 07:40:00 - [12] Edited by: Zex Maxwell on 01/08/2009 07:41:08 Originally by: Jagga Spikes would it be possible to get a calculation for the 100mil figure, please? Current prices with my Max skills, implants, and max Orca settings. and drones for ****s and giggles. http://img37.imageshack.us/i/numbers1.jpg/ http://img190.imageshack.us/i/numbers2.jpg/ AND TAX! but its 1.33
Cerlestes Caldari Veldspar Trading Company.	Posted - 2009.08.01 10:11:00 - [13] May I advertise a bit :)? http://ore.cerlestes.de With a good Hulk pilot youre easily doing 1600m3 per minute. Calculate the rest by yourself ;P Cerl
Jesica Altor Caldari Intergalatic Munitions and Mining	Posted - 2009.08.04 02:25:00 - [14] theoretical max with: Lv V Exhumers, t2 strip miners, t2 crystals, 2x t2 MLU's max refine rate, and 0 taxes. mining laser - 15470 units/3m cycle/laser 1x refine = 1k trit (max refine/0 tax) 2787 refines per hour - 9,754,500 isk per hour @3.5 isk per tritanium this does not include drones, implants, fleet skills, or having to move from rock to rock, or belt to belt, and is only a theoretical max in highsec, mining basic non yield veldspar.
Taua Roqa Minmatar junQtion	Posted - 2009.08.04 04:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Zex Maxwell Edited by: Zex Maxwell on 01/08/2009 07:41:08 Originally by: Jagga Spikes would it be possible to get a calculation for the 100mil figure, please? Current prices with my Max skills, implants, and max Orca settings. and drones for ****s and giggles. http://img37.imageshack.us/i/numbers1.jpg/ http://img190.imageshack.us/i/numbers2.jpg/ AND TAX! but its 1.33 dude where can i get such a cool spreadsheet :D? (unless you made it yourself :()
AusTerror	Posted - 2009.08.07 06:21:00 - [16] If someone was thinking of using their alt to mine on the side for a bit of profit. Mine in highsec so you don't need to watch the screen 100% of the time. Sure there are ganks squads out there. But generally speaking, you can answer the door when someone turns up and not loose a ship. Yes I know you can do that in null sec too. But if we are talking a bit of money on the side, just mine whatever in highsec. it won't be heaps, but it will be some.
Lukriss Lone Star Academy Lone Star Partners	Posted - 2009.08.07 10:19:00 - [17] Originally by: AusTerror If someone was thinking of using their alt to mine on the side for a bit of profit. Mine in highsec so you don't need to watch the screen 100% of the time. You need to remember that for every 60m or so you make in highsec you could have bought a new hulk and still made the same amount of money in 0.0 Originally by: Redloc I want to gank hulks in high sec! I have a dedicated miner account so I have the funds to throw away.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.08.07 11:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Lukriss Originally by: AusTerror If someone was thinking of using their alt to mine on the side for a bit of profit. Mine in highsec so you don't need to watch the screen 100% of the time. You need to remember that for every 60m or so you make in highsec you could have bought a new hulk and still made the same amount of money in 0.0 If you "just" manage to slip an hulk down there alive that is. Or you could just rat with a ship easier to bring there (and 1/3 as expensive) and earn more and also get a good amount of reprocessable loot. - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Yarinor	Posted - 2009.08.07 12:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Or you could just rat with a ship easier to bring there (and 1/3 as expensive) and earn more and also get a good amount of reprocessable loot. Moving ships in and out of 0.0 isn't as hard as some people make it out to be, a lot of carrier pilots will jump them if you pay the fuel.


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