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Ambo
I've Got Nothing
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Posted - 2009.08.03 11:59:00 -
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So I've been fighting for the Minmatar for about a week now.
Have to say that overall, it's been a lot of fun. I'm slowly (very slowly) learning what PvP is all about in lowsec. Getting my first 'real' kill was a huge rush and solo and small group fights with my corp mates are awesome. My loses have been high but that's fine, I'm mostly trying to get a feel for things at the moment.
Personally, I really enjoy solo/small gang PvP, Everyone else says they want the same thing but it just dosn't seem to happen very often. I'll usually fly around Amarr low sec on my own or in a gang of two for about 2-3 hours before having even a sniff of a possible engagement, there just don't seem to be that many Amarr around.
Joining the 'main' Minmatar fleet often leaves me camping gates and getting into 20v1 fights that offer zero challenge and lots of waiting around doing nothing so I've pretty much given up on that.
If I wasn't still so crap at PvP then I'd probably turn pirate just to get some more targets. 
Anyway, the reason for this thread is really just wondering if others are experiencing the same thing? Do you fly solo/small group? Do you fly with the 'blob'? What are the reasons for your choices?
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David Devant
Gallente
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2009.08.03 12:29:00 -
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In my experience there's plenty of opportunity to fly in a solo or small gang format and the amarr (to their credit) will often be doing the same. If there aren't any wts around you can always indulge in some top belt roulet in amagankme.
Having said that I don't really agree with your analysis of the larger scale pvp situation. Whilst 20 v 1 is an often inevitable outcome, there are plenty of times when the cat doesn't see he's the mouse and the gate is strewn with wrecks 5 minutes later.
Great fun IMO.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.03 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 03/08/2009 12:53:00
Yes, it is sad lately. However this is what happens when a militia moves it's base of operations out of low sec and into high sec for safety. Suddenly care bearing becomes more important than fighting.
I think most of Minmatar's kills come out of 0.0 space these days. The Amarr as a fighting force have gone MIA on the battlefield it seems.
The only good thing, is it's much easier to solo roam these days, but still not a lot of fights like there was only a few weeks ago.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.04 11:29:00 -
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You should not take note of what mutnin says, for time and time again he has shown to have been wrong.
He requests or rather demands that the amarr militia should ship down and dum down into something thats easier for his militia to kill. now the minmitar militia has lost the minmitar part (dark) it will be fun watching the minmitar wrecks float poast my ship in space.
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Shalam
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.08.04 12:07:00 -
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My experience on the Gallente side was much like the OP.
Started off flying with the 'blobs' but the 20v1 kills meant nothing to me and the epic battles were rare/too laggy  .
I took a Tristan along the pipe one day and was engaged by several solo Interceptors. After that.. I only flew the Tristan, Solo. Generally hung around 140km off-gate in the busy systems and let anyone (solo - similar hull) wanting a fight come to me. Lost alot of Tristans but had many enjoyable & close fights, Even if I had to wait a few hours to get such a fight sometimes.
The joys of Eve, waiting hours for a fight that lasts 30 seconds  .
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.08.04 20:02:00 -
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I fly around solo when I don't feel like doing the people thing and it can work depending on where you're flying.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.04 20:26:00 -
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 Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
You should not take note of what mutnin says, for time and time again he has shown to have been wrong.
He requests or rather demands that the amarr militia should ship down and dum down into something thats easier for his militia to kill. now the minmitar militia has lost the minmitar part (dark) it will be fun watching the minmitar wrecks float poast my ship in space.
Na, I'm just looking for fights BSC.. not all of us join FW to fly around in Inti's all day.. 8)
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.04 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 03/08/2009 12:53:00
I think most of Minmatar's kills come out of 0.0 space these days. The Amarr as a fighting force have gone MIA on the battlefield it seems.
All of the major corps left, duh. FW is dead. CCP abandoned their baby and a few (gunship) gutted it out for a LONG time - but FW is pointless, full of nonstop blobbers such as yourself, and is really just an intro to pvp.
Perhaps you should put your big boy pants on and engage in lowsec piracy (dropping fw) or move to 0.0
As for the op - you'll get an introduction to pvp in eve through FW but if you want true small gang warfare join a corp that specializes in it or just get away from the blobs in FW. My 2 cents anyway.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 05/08/2009 00:42:47
Originally by: SquadBroken
Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 03/08/2009 12:53:00
I think most of Minmatar's kills come out of 0.0 space these days. The Amarr as a fighting force have gone MIA on the battlefield it seems.
All of the major corps left, duh. FW is dead. CCP abandoned their baby and a few (gunship) gutted it out for a LONG time - but FW is pointless, full of nonstop blobbers such as yourself, and is really just an intro to pvp.
Perhaps you should put your big boy pants on and engage in lowsec piracy (dropping fw) or move to 0.0
As for the op - you'll get an introduction to pvp in eve through FW but if you want true small gang warfare join a corp that specializes in it or just get away from the blobs in FW. My 2 cents anyway.
Once again a true forum warrior whom hides behind a fake nick, getting mouthy. Be a man and post with your real name, quit acting like a 12 year old whom thinks daddy might catch him looking at **** on the internet.
You must spend all your time hiding in high sec if you think I'm a blobber. The only time I join fleets is when I know there is a fight coming.
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 02:11:42
Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 02:11:16
Originally by: Mutnin
Once again a true forum warrior whom hides behind a fake nick, getting mouthy. Be a man and post with your real name.
My mains are banned. You know who this is - i've said it in other threads. Read. Think. Then post.
Strike 1.
We live in 0.0 now and spent roughly a year in FW.
Strike 2.
Our corp had (the last time i checked) a 75% efficiency against you.
Strike 3.
You're an idiot, stop posting.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: SquadBroken
useless dribble...
Sorry you must not have been important enough to pay attention to, as I have no clue who you are and don't really care.
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: SquadBroken
useless dribble...
Sorry you must not have been important enough to pay attention to, as I have no clue who you are and don't really care.
And you cared so little as to respond to my post just to tell me you don't care?
Aren't you just the most adorable little thing.
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The Yzzerman
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.05 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
You should not take note of what mutnin says, for time and time again he has shown to have been wrong.
He requests or rather demands that the amarr militia should ship down and dum down into something thats easier for his militia to kill. now the minmitar militia has lost the minmitar part (dark) it will be fun watching the minmitar wrecks float poast my ship in space.
BC I dont really get why you amarr pilots keep saying that minmatar blob left and right? You amarr pilots do the same thing, when you can get your pilots toghter.
Latley we have some nice bigger battles, with numbers over 20 on booth sides and i have enjoyd them. The blob always depend on what the time are on the day, nothing more too it reallly.
And about darl leaving FW scene, well I look on killboard and see other corps that have achived better(no offens dark ) . I think we will do alright without them, and they will do good without us.
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The Yzzerman
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.05 11:58:00 -
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All of the major corps left, duh. FW is dead. CCP abandoned their baby and a few (gunship) gutted it out for a LONG time - but FW is pointless, full of nonstop blobbers such as yourself, and is really just an intro to pvp.
Perhaps you should put your big boy pants on and engage in lowsec piracy (dropping fw) or move to 0.0
As for the op - you'll get an introduction to pvp in eve through FW but if you want true small gang warfare join a corp that specializes in it or just get away from the blobs in FW. My 2 cents anyway.
Its intresting what you say here and i will follow you corp too see what you kill in 0.0.
Everybody keep saying that Fw is for nubs and pilots that are afraid of 0.0 and real pvp, but i think diffrent i have done it booth.
I enjoyd 0.0 and I now enjoy Fw they are not a big diffrent really
from eeachother . Booth can be bloby sometimes depending on what timezone it is when you play.
Sure that are many nubs(new players) in fw but hoepfully they will be older and better on the way, but there are alot of nubs in 0.0 aswell for sure or carebears if you like to call them that.
So tbh i think you guys did the right choise to move on and do something else and lets see if fw will be better or *worse* with out you.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.05 12:18:00 -
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I didnt say that you blobbed and we didnt, im mereley picking Mutnin up on his statements that anything that is bigger better or have more pilots than his sole and secient self is a BLOB
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 05/08/2009 13:42:43
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I didnt say that you blobbed and we didnt, im mereley picking Mutnin up on his statements that anything that is bigger better or have more pilots than his sole and secient self is a BLOB
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying look at what your expected targets are and react accordingly. If you know the WT's have a 10 man gang in cruisers roaming around, don't make some 20 man BC heavy blob and think you are getting a fight.
I mean hell it happened to me last night. Here I joined a small 7 or 8 man gang that was roaming then 30 mins later it's turned into 20+ guys ganking a few pirate's. I knew there was no reason to have a 20 man gang, so I left fleet because there were no targets flying around for that size gang.
What I'm saying (too all sides) is if you give a good fight, with out over powering force all the time, then there will be many more fights to be had. If you gank all day then you will wonder why WT's stay docked while the blobs are roaming..
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 05/08/2009 13:42:43
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I didnt say that you blobbed and we didnt, im mereley picking Mutnin up on his statements that anything that is bigger better or have more pilots than his sole and secient self is a BLOB
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying look at what your expected targets are and react accordingly. If you know the WT's have a 10 man gang in cruisers roaming around, don't make some 20 man BC heavy blob and think you are getting a fight.
I mean hell it happened to me last night. Here I joined a small 7 or 8 man gang that was roaming then 30 mins later it's turned into 20+ guys ganking a few pirate's. I knew there was no reason to have a 20 man gang, so I left fleet because there were no targets flying around for that size gang.
What I'm saying (too all sides) is if you give a good fight, with out over powering force all the time, then there will be many more fights to be had. If you gank all day then you will wonder why WT's stay docked while the blobs are roaming..
Yep, it's something that both sides do from time to time.
The problem is that when someone calls for backup because they're outnumbered, there's a fair chance that more people than are strictly required will respond. And it's then very hard for an FC to say "sorry mate, we don't want you here"
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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The Yzzerman
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.05 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 05/08/2009 13:42:43
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I didnt say that you blobbed and we didnt, im mereley picking Mutnin up on his statements that anything that is bigger better or have more pilots than his sole and secient self is a BLOB
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying look at what your expected targets are and react accordingly. If you know the WT's have a 10 man gang in cruisers roaming around, don't make some 20 man BC heavy blob and think you are getting a fight.
I mean hell it happened to me last night. Here I joined a small 7 or 8 man gang that was roaming then 30 mins later it's turned into 20+ guys ganking a few pirate's. I knew there was no reason to have a 20 man gang, so I left fleet because there were no targets flying around for that size gang.
What I'm saying (too all sides) is if you give a good fight, with out over powering force all the time, then there will be many more fights to be had. If you gank all day then you will wonder why WT's stay docked while the blobs are roaming..
Yep, it's something that both sides do from time to time.
The problem is that when someone calls for backup because they're outnumbered, there's a fair chance that more people than are strictly required will respond. And it's then very hard for an FC to say "sorry mate, we don't want you here"
I have to agree with you there , its a fine line to not over blob or just stay in a equal fleet and have a nice fight.
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Ambo
I've Got Nothing
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Posted - 2009.08.05 15:15:00 -
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Good point. I guess it's all but impossible to get a reasonable balance of forces without a fair bit of luck. As a previous poster said, I'll frequently find myself leaving the blob simply because there is nothing to challenge it.
Either way, I'm finding solo flying is usually enjoyable and fleet flying is sometimes enjoyable so that's good enough for me.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.05 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 05/08/2009 16:17:54
I dont really subscribe to the idea that blobs are ruining FW. In the main whilst we may have been quite blobby, we didn't often join FW fleets therefore only attributed slightly to the normal 50 on 50 gang bangs.
Many corporations in Militias find other ways to get fights. Many with a lot of success. When dark went on its little plex offensive to capture Halmah, quite often we would be blobbed, as it was a group of Amarr Militia pilots vs one corp. We adapted, sometimes choosing not to engage, but the point is, knowing when its tactically sound to fight head on, or choose more sneaky tactics is part of this fabulous game.
Adapt, or go do something less stressful ;)
EDIT: As for finding a reasonable balance of forces? what is this... hey guys im going to come fight you with 15, 5 bs, rest support, I wonder if you could meet us at planet x in system y, with the exact same stuff. cheers. 
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Bazuka
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Posted - 2009.08.05 16:59:00 -
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Welcome to a PVP game with a severe death penalty.
Good luck finding "fair" or exciting PVP that will last longer then a minute.
Is it worth to theorycraft/fit a ship/plan/strategize/roam/search/hide for hours and hours until you find a fight that will last a minute?
Is it worthed your game time?
Not mine.
There are million other PVP games where you can just jump in, PVP for hours NON-STOP and log off happy, win or lose.
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Rapiar
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.08.05 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo
Personally, I really enjoy solo/small gang PvP, Everyone else says they want the same thing but it just dosn't seem to happen very often. I'll usually fly around Amarr low sec on my own or in a gang of two for about 2-3 hours before having even a sniff of a possible engagement, there just don't seem to be that many Amarr around.
Joining the 'main' Minmatar fleet often leaves me camping gates and getting into 20v1 fights that offer zero challenge and lots of waiting around doing nothing so I've pretty much given up on that.
Anyway, the reason for this thread is really just wondering if others are experiencing the same thing? Do you fly solo/small group? Do you fly with the 'blob'? What are the reasons for your choices?
In my short time in the militia, on the Amarr side. I've seen enough that I think I understand why your not seeing many Amarr pilots.
I too enjoy flying solo or small gang. I havn't joined the blob; in fact I haven't yet seen an amarr blob form up. Maybe that's due to the timezone I've been active lately. But here is a couple of examples:
The other day I was solo roaming (in my Drake) and jumped through a gate to find 3 minnie's in cruisers sitting on the other side. They were a Thorax, Rupture and Omen. I weighed my options, turned on fraps decloaked and engaged; fully prepared to lose my Drake in what promised to be a good fight. They targeted me, waited for a moment and then jumped through away from me :( I guess 3v1 wasn't exceptable odds to them. Later that night I did lose that drake...to a gang of 19.
Another time I was on my way to help a fellow militia member who was outnumbered and swarmed with inties. Again I was expecting to lose my ship (Vexor this time) but I was hoping to take a minnie or two with me. I jumped into a trap; which is fine, but it was set by neutrals. Ok, kinda cheap to have neutrals helping you in such a way but whatever, lesson learned.
Yesterday I was baited into aggressing a Minnie Enyo on a gate. Obviously he wasn't about to be fighting my Drake alone, he didn't agress and just sat in jump range, but I was bored and curious to see what would come from the other side of the gate. And what pops through? A neutral (star fraction) Apocolypse. I had kept myself aligned and bugged out.
I'm not trying to whine here (although it probably sounds like it) but the Minmatar already outnumber the Amarr by a good margin and with all the neutral friends flying with them it seems flat out overwhelming. I've even witnessed SF camping an Amarr corp in high sec so they couldn't get into the faction low-sec.
Now some may be inclined to say something to the effect of "It's all fair in war" or "There is no 'fair' in EVE" and that's fine, but you have to realize this is a game and poeple play for fun. There is no reason to stay in FW other than fun. So if your opponents (who you need to have fun in pvp) feel completely overwhelmed; if you are too effective--you have to expect that your oppenents will not keep showing up.
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Urallrimmjobz
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.05 19:09:00 -
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Honestly, for those who are in FW and hate it so much:
If it is that bad, go join a low-sec pirate corp, go out to 0.0, or join Goonswarm. Kkthx.
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Garst Tyrell
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.05 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Garst Tyrell on 05/08/2009 19:15:50
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 05/08/2009 16:17:54
...offensive to capture Halmah, quite often we would be blobbed,
DARK bringing 20 thrashers in a minor might be overkill
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Jelosavich
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Posted - 2009.08.05 19:20:00 -
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Basically what Rapier and Muninn said. I've been in a couple blobs, and a couple small gangs, and I made a post about one of my experiences that is typical. We had even numbers with a minmatar blob, they refused to engage. Then they had more numbers than us, and they refused to engage. When we finally left the planet that we agreed upon, they had about twice our numbers in system. Another time, they had 60 people against our 20. Etc, etc.
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Kezzle
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Posted - 2009.08.05 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rapiar
There is no reason to stay in FW other than fun.
Which is a crying shame, if you ask me. While being in FW should be fun, there should also be objectives and achievement. Caldari made it to the only real "goal" I can see from outside FW, and all power to them (even if the game mechanic for teh win is teh suck - play the game rules, if you wanna win), but in some ways that's put a big damper, at least on that front, on FW.
FW should be warfare, and while God is on the side of the FC with the bigger battallions, as is only right and proper, there should, in a "proper" war be essential tasks for the light units. PvP Tasks that aren't some arbitrary mechanic glommed onto the 'verse, but are tied into the systems that everyone is flying around in.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.05 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Garst Tyrell
Edited by: Garst Tyrell on 05/08/2009 19:15:50
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 05/08/2009 16:17:54
...offensive to capture Halmah, quite often we would be blobbed,
DARK bringing 20 thrashers in a minor might be overkill
Its ok, we watched how the amarr did them and started speed tanking them with one stabbed frigate.
zing??
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Invelious
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.05 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: SquadBroken
Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 02:11:42
Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 02:11:16
Originally by: Mutnin
Once again a true forum warrior whom hides behind a fake nick, getting mouthy. Be a man and post with your real name.
My mains are banned. You know who this is - i've said it in other threads. Read. Think. Then post.
Strike 1.
We live in 0.0 now and spent roughly a year in FW.
Strike 2.
Our corp had (the last time i checked) a 75% efficiency against you.
Strike 3.
Trolling removed. Zymurgist
Keep safe bro, and GL with O.O and easy on the troll, lest you want more banning lol.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 05/08/2009 22:12:47
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Yep, it's something that both sides do from time to time.
The problem is that when someone calls for backup because they're outnumbered, there's a fair chance that more people than are strictly required will respond. And it's then very hard for an FC to say "sorry mate, we don't want you here"
Yes and honestly it's likely a problem with no real solution in FW. People X up in militia and everyone expects to get picked up for a fleet. The reality of it is it's probably a catch 22 for the FC's.
If they take the X's then they are blobbing up, but if they don't take them people get ****ed off and won't X up later. So yea I realize it's may not be all about the blobs something as much as just taking X's however I do see fleet from both sides that wont engage unless they have much larger numbers.
That's the part that gets annoying to me.
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 22:29:00 -
[30]
Originally by: The Yzzerman
So tbh i think you guys did the right choise to move on and do something else and lets see if fw will be better or *worse* with out you.
Sup yzzer. We're having fun so far - it's been a couple of weeks now. Avarice are a rowdy bunch, but that's what we like. I've been playing the game damn year 6 years now
<------------ Angelonico
And have had fun doing everything from major 0.0 cap fests (goons during the darkest days of the war all the way to push for delve 1.0), lowsec empire piracy, FW, and have now gone full circle back to 0.0 for the third of fourth time. I've enjoyed the game and the people I've flown with each and every time, but that's what it's for.
Sure the amarr and minmatar blob - that's not at issue. What IS at issue is the fact that mutnin seems to think only the amarr blob - and only the amarr refuse to ship down. That's just not true.
Feel free to hit me up in game anytime yzzer (assuming my main isn't banned for that much longer.) I'll try to avoid ork raping local when you're around.
Fly safe Amarr.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 23:00:00 -
[31]
Originally by: SquadBroken
Originally by: The Yzzerman
Sure the amarr and minmatar blob - that's not at issue. What IS at issue is the fact that mutnin seems to think only the amarr blob - and only the amarr refuse to ship down. That's just not true.
Obviously you have failed at reading and comprehension. 
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SquadBroken
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.08.05 23:02:00 -
[32]
Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 23:02:53
Edited by: SquadBroken on 05/08/2009 23:02:38
Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: SquadBroken
Originally by: The Yzzerman
Sure the amarr and minmatar blob - that's not at issue. What IS at issue is the fact that mutnin seems to think only the amarr blob - and only the amarr refuse to ship down. That's just not true.
Obviously you have failed at reading and comprehension.
Not as much as you fail at quoting.
(ps I was referring to other people's posts about you big guy, not your own.)
Once again, read. Think. THEN post. You are really bad at that
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The Yzzerman
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.06 08:16:00 -
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It have been said in this topic before and i say it agian nooth sides bring the *bolobs* its all come downs too what time zone its who brings the biggest one.
We can also call it a call for arm's, showing muscle's or what ever.
What it comes down to is that it will be like that what ever alliance,region or 0.0 you join.
People say Oooh i whant small gangs or 1vs1 and so, that it is totaly up too your self to make that happen.
If you see some wt's dont scream for help in militia chat just start a little gang and take those wt's.
Solo pvp i belive there would be plenty if you look for it, just pick the right fight.
And again booth sides starts BIG fleets, its not a minmatar or amarr phenomen.
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Sharadar
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Posted - 2009.08.06 12:26:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Rapiar
Yesterday I was baited into aggressing a Minnie Enyo on a gate. Obviously he wasn't about to be fighting my Drake alone, he didn't agress and just sat in jump range, but I was bored and curious to see what would come from the other side of the gate. And what pops through? A neutral (star fraction) Apocolypse. I had kept myself aligned and bugged out.
Neutrals in FW something that really bugs me - Engaging a wt brutix on a gate and having a neutral guardian repair it. Yay
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Dex Timor
Forza Di Colpo
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Posted - 2009.08.08 08:30:00 -
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Hi,
I'm glad that Minmatar and Amarr militia show respect for each other, understanding that no side would be fun to play without having enemies.
From my experience the blobs tend to form in the same solar systems and roam the same places, leaving other systems deserted and vulnerable. The blobs tend to restrict solo-pvp'ers ability to freely access some systems, but usually FCs do not give chase to a small gang if that means moving the fleet over 6-10 jumps (unless there are no other targets reported at all). Also, as Yzzerman pointed out already: The number of pilots active and their prefered play-style changes over timezone.
I'd also like to point out that a 20 man gang is considered a fleet or a massive blob depending on what the opposing side fields at the same time. Furthermore the fleets often consist of 20% - 60% people with little pvp experience. I don't know how it is on the Amarr side, but we often have a "x me if there is a fleet / sorry no FC online" situation on the Minmatar side. If you encounter a blob that runs from you, it may be because someone new tried to FC and lacks the confidence / aggressivity of pulling it through.
Another point mentioned in this thread are neutrals. First I think it is known by now that Star Fraction are not exactly neutral. If you haven't changed your standings to red / blue, then you shouldn't blame "neutrals" to have ganked you. On the other side there are quite some neutral scouts / cyno alts being used. This is not only the case in FW and as such not an issue related directly to FW. I don't think that there are many neutral RR pilots on either side, which I hope will remain like this.
FW being dead ? No, not really. It just changes as veterans leave and newcomers join. If you base your opinion about FW health on what play-styles are currently favoured by the masses, you will probably be disappointed. What I would suggest, is that everyone who wants to promote his play-style offers to help newer players to come along and learn through personal experience. The fleets are popular because they pick up every X, from a 2 day noob to a 6 year veteran and offer an easy way to get kills. The solo-players have a hard time promoting their play-style, because they offer little incentives. If I were to solo more, I'd do "Learn how to fly a Thorax in solo-pvp" days, starting with checking the setup used by my student. From my early 0.0 days I know that having someone on voice to advise you, even if you're not in a fleet with them can make a huge difference. If as a newb you can ask "I'm in a Stiletto, do you think I can kill a Maller ?" or similar questions that only arise as a certain situation comes up, then you can learn much more then if you only learn after you died.
less dying = more confidence
more advice = more learning opportunities
Amarr / Minmatar front is still the best 
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ChipMo
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.08 09:24:00 -
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Faction Warfare.
It's supposed to be a war, not a bloody tournament. Do what you need to win, ignore the whines.
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Bashiri
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.08 23:34:00 -
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Blobs happen you just have to deal with it.
I've notice when it takes to long for each other to get a counter fleet ready the other stands down. When that happens the other side is now the blober and go around ganking what they can. Both sides from my point of view does this.
As for FW being dead it's not. Your time zone or were you live at in the faction warfare is dead.
SF should just join minmatar but they are abite worry about getting blob so they do there gank thing on the few corps they have war dec on amarr side.
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