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Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:08:00 -
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Ok, inferno ... eyecandy ... YEY !
however...
E5200 dualcore intel. 4GB / Vista 32bit
Use to have a ATI 4800 , who was eaten alive by Inferno..
So, upgraded to .. Nvidia , 550 Ti , and a new PSU to go with it. Latest drivers, dust free, plenty of cooling..
Memory load, 1/2 of max.. processor load , 18%
But bloody hell, whenever i shoot a missile ( or somebody else does that ) , i drop down to 15FPS (from 60 stable)
Response from bug-team ccp: turn of missile stuff ( no joke )
But come on, this setup should handle at least one box proper, now actual multiboxing became impossible for me.
Any sugestions ?
( oh yes, did a clean install of EVE "just in case" )
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
370
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:11:00 -
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It's called Inferno for a reason.
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Mijano
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:13:00 -
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It feels unlikely for anyone buying something new in the last two years to have anything worse than me. I use AMD Phenom 8450 Triple-Core Processor 2.10GHz with AMD Radeon 6570 with and I only experience lag in character creation. I don't know if you have better or worse than me (I lack knowledge in hardware), but as I find it unlikely, my processor being years and my graphic card being a budget one, you'll know the problem doesn't lie in the hardware if you're better off than me. |

Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
268
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:30:00 -
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Running just fine for me on a GTX 260-216 at max settings and about 120 FPS during small gang fights and general use.
Looking at your computer specs, a few things jump out at me. First, you have a decent GPU, but the rest of your set up seems to be far behind it. An E5200 is not up to supporting the potential of the 550 ti (and the mother board this CPU is pluged into is probably not much better.) Not only does it have a very small cache, but it only supports 800mhz FSB which means textures and effects are probably bottle-necking there (constantly having to be loaded into GPU cache, see bellow.) In addition, you are using a 32 bit OS, which will only support up to 3 gigs of RAM. This total also includes the on board memory for your video card and any accessories you have with on board random access memory. If you are trying to ask the OS to handle 4 gigs of RAM plus 1 gig of on board on the 550 ti, then it is probably not handling this gracefully. |

Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
17
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:32:00 -
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Spacing Cowboy wrote:Ok, inferno ... eyecandy ... YEY !
however...
E5200 dualcore intel. 4GB / Vista 32bit
Use to have a ATI 4800 , who was eaten alive by Inferno..
So, upgraded to .. Nvidia , 550 Ti , and a new PSU to go with it. Latest drivers, dust free, plenty of cooling..
Memory load, 1/2 of max.. processor load , 18%
But bloody hell, whenever i shoot a missile ( or somebody else does that ) , i drop down to 15FPS (from 60 stable)
Response from bug-team ccp: turn of missile stuff ( no joke )
But come on, this setup should handle at least one box proper, now actual multiboxing became impossible for me.
Any sugestions ?
( oh yes, did a clean install of EVE "just in case" )
Wait, we have BBQ? |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
748
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:33:00 -
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Hit ESC and bring up the graphics menu.
Set the interval to Default or 1.
If you set it to immediate, you'll have heat issues. If you don't, you wont.
A list of fixes for the new inventory
Dual Pane idea clicky |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
204
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:37:00 -
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That processor and probably motherboard combo is pretty old? More Ram coudln't hurt either but as someone else stated I think you need to upgrade to 64 bit to get more. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:38:00 -
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Thanks gents, getting somewhere
EDIT: indeed, it ain't quite the latest. What "disturbs" me, is before inferno, i could multibox 3 clients without a hickup on this box , and after patch.. i can *bearly* run one
I dont mind so much upgrading the system, but after the nvidia adventure ( new card, still no result ) i really getting a bit pissed - and carefull buying more stuff that won't help -
btw, indeed, messing with "interval one / default" improves it , dunno why that would not work before tho |

Holy One
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
201
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:51:00 -
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Spacing Cowboy wrote:Ok, inferno ... eyecandy ... YEY !
err yeah 'yay! more superficial shyte for eve! wooop!'
yeah, turn it all off and use interval one. like everyone who has ever been in a fleet fight does.
gf ccp. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
204
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Posted - 2012.05.26 18:53:00 -
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Spacing Cowboy wrote:Thanks gents, getting somewhere
EDIT: indeed, it ain't quite the latest. What "disturbs" me, is before inferno, i could multibox 3 clients without a hickup on this box , and after patch.. i can *bearly* run one
I dont mind so much upgrading the system, but after the nvidia adventure ( new card, still no result ) i really getting a bit pissed - and carefull buying more stuff that won't help -
btw, indeed, messing with "interval one / default" improves it , dunno why that would not work before tho
That does seem to be a pretty big hit in performance if you were able to run three before. Drop a few hundo on a mobo/cpu combo if you are able to and see how it does. Or there's always the "turn the missiles off" option I spose :)
The times they are a-changin I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.05.26 19:04:00 -
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Intel Pentium Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family 
Next to zero lag on low settings. Only time I get lag is in jita. Maybe you need to upgrade your rig, or downgrade it. Since I am such a nice guy I'll even swap you straight up, then you can play Eve no problem on your new craptop.
BTW Eve was made almost a decade ago, you can't expect it to stay graphically the same. |

Holy One
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
201
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Posted - 2012.05.26 19:08:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Intel Pentium Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz 2 gigs of RAM Graphics Card: Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset Family  Next to zero lag on low settings. Only time I get lag is in jita. Maybe you need to upgrade your rig, or downgrade it. Since I am such a nice guy I'll even swap you straight up, then you can play Eve no problem on your new craptop. BTW Eve was made almost a decade ago, you can't expect it to stay graphically the same.
+1 I run eve maxed out on my ******* toaster. I don't know what the op's problem is tbh. He's clearly just dumb. |

Ituhata Saken
Elysium Enterprises
111
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Posted - 2012.05.26 22:54:00 -
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I didn't like the GTX550 when I bought it to run SWTOR's graphics engine, it wasn't that it was slow, I barely noticed any lag but it just ran way too hot for what it was doing, so I took it back and spent the extra money on the 560. Haven't had any complaints, the 560 runs hot too but at least I can keep it around 70 with the fan at maximum, and no lag whatsoever. |

Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
279
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Posted - 2012.05.26 23:09:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Hit ESC and bring up the graphics menu.
Set the interval to Default or 1.
If you set it to immediate, you'll have heat issues. If you don't, you wont.
This +1 . |

Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.26 23:15:00 -
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Spacing Cowboy wrote:Ok, inferno ... eyecandy ... YEY !
however...
E5200 dualcore intel. 4GB / Vista 32bit
Use to have a ATI 4800 , who was eaten alive by Inferno..
So, upgraded to .. Nvidia , 550 Ti , and a new PSU to go with it. Latest drivers, dust free, plenty of cooling..
Memory load, 1/2 of max.. processor load , 18%
But bloody hell, whenever i shoot a missile ( or somebody else does that ) , i drop down to 15FPS (from 60 stable)
Response from bug-team ccp: turn of missile stuff ( no joke )
But come on, this setup should handle at least one box proper, now actual multiboxing became impossible for me.
Any sugestions ?
( oh yes, did a clean install of EVE "just in case" )
The 550 is a really bad card, though. Should have gone for at least a 560. I've got a 560M with the latest drivers and I'm fine. I even have most of the graphics turned up. |

alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
31
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Posted - 2012.05.26 23:56:00 -
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turn off effects?
550ti was crap when the 5xx was out... we are on 6xx now so think about that
Gaming should be nothing under a 560... not a 550, way to buy a POS.
Also 560m < 550ti...
omg noobs. |

Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.27 00:40:00 -
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Why would you get something as crappy as the 550 Ti when theres this beautifull thing called the 560 Ti. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
957
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Posted - 2012.05.27 00:57:00 -
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Since sometimes I need to move away from home, I have a 2 years old Asus netbook (ION video card) with Win 7 32 bit. It runs 1 instance at low-ish details quite well and with no lag when firing missiles. Runs 2 instances too but then the poor thing slows down to 10 FPS. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.05.27 05:18:00 -
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550 was advised to me ( i really know jack-**** about this stuff, so i go with what other people say )
Anyway, its to make this rig live for another year or so *if he makes it* , then going for a new setup.
Btw, the interval thingy actually fixed it :) \o/ , can now get in warp or -move around- without lagging-up
Of course i would rather have got me a brand new 8 core, with 16GB , SSD hd and a SLI set of the shiny nvidia cards.. My wallet figured otherwise however ;p
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alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
31
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Posted - 2012.05.27 05:47:00 -
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8core would mean AMD... another mistake... (let alone that fact eve does not need the CPU power) 16gig... you left off ram... meh maybe if you want to run 8 eves ssd hd... um... you have ssds and hdds... ssd hd does not exist... unless you mean a hybird drive and I know you do not... SSD would give you faster windows boot times... it would not make eve run faster SLI vid cards also not needed... a 680 would run eve very very well
On to the fail excuse...
Google its a thing you can't google "best video card for the money" "best vid card for gaming" etc?
Any more excuses? |

bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.05.27 06:21:00 -
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how about enabling V-Sync so framerates dont exceed monitor refresh rate. I.E. 60hz or fps which eliminates tearing when panning the camera, lowers power consumption, and prevents overheating. This is overlooked by many individuals.
Just like a car, if it can do 180mph, which is unnessessary, just do the speed limit at 60, save gas(I.E. power) and have a more fluid experience. |

Keno Skir
131
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Posted - 2012.05.27 06:23:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Running just fine for me on a GTX 260-216 at max settings and about 120 FPS during small gang fights and general use.
Looking at your computer specs, a few things jump out at me. First, you have a decent GPU, but the rest of your set up seems to be far behind it. An E5200 is not up to supporting the potential of the 550 ti (and the mother board this CPU is pluged into is probably not much better.) Not only does it have a very small cache, but it only supports 800mhz FSB which means textures and effects are probably bottle-necking there (constantly having to be loaded into GPU cache, see bellow.) In addition, you are using a 32 bit OS, which will only support up to 3 gigs of RAM. This total also includes the on board memory for your video card and any accessories you have with on board random access memory. If you are trying to ask the OS to handle 4 gigs of RAM plus 1 gig of on board on the 550 ti, then it is probably not handling this gracefully.
TL:DR
You are using too much memory for a 32 OS, get 64 bit. Your GPU is not the bottleneck in your system.
Amazing smackdown, earned a like :P The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2012.05.27 07:11:00 -
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also check and see if hdr is on in the settings also .
if it is disable it . that may help. |

Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.05.27 16:47:00 -
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Still a thanks to the gents helping out, can play this silly game again , and even dualbox if needed.
And actually learned a thing or 2 about computers :)
( hell if i know what the diffrence is between a 32 or 64 bit OS and that its linked to memory and stuff ) Guess were not all IT experts :p |

Mumtaz Khan
Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est
40
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Posted - 2012.05.27 17:50:00 -
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I use Intel Integrated graphics, and my computer still (barely) runs the game, so long as I don't jump a gate or undock from a station unless I want to black screen. Wormholes ftw. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
790
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Posted - 2012.05.27 17:56:00 -
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Ok hearing all this about the 550 confuses me.
I use the 450GS along with an old duel core, and I can play EVE along with several other recent games at max with only 60C @ 55% fan speed.
Is the 450 better than the 550?
Edit: another question is there a way to upgrade from a 32b to a 64b OS without having to reinstall everything on my computer (most programs are on a separate partition from my OS, so what I mean is the registry)? |

bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.05.27 18:42:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Ok hearing all this about the 550 confuses me.
I use the 450GS along with an old duel core, and I can play EVE along with several other recent games at max with only 60C @ 55% fan speed.
Is the 450 better than the 550?
Edit: another question is there a way to upgrade from a 32b to a 64b OS without having to reinstall everything on my computer (most programs are on a separate partition from my OS, so what I mean is the registry)?
if you have no issues with the 450gs, dont worry about upgrading it, the temps are perfectly fine.
The naming scheme with graphic cards can be confusing, if you want to see the differences, goto www.tomshardware.com and look at the graphic charts.
You CANNOT unfortunately upgrade to x64 or down grade either., only a fresh install can you actually switch between the two(x86 or x64) |

val ona
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.27 19:00:00 -
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The game runs great on my rig, and I have a 550 Ti, too. But, compared to your setup, I've got an i7 2600k. It's not only the GPU, your CPU needs to be up to it, too. Now, my i7 is a bit of an overkill for EVE, but a better CPU does make a huge difference.
My old rig, however, (AMD x64 5600+ & 8800GT) runs Inferno pretty well. I go for medium settings, but missiles are maxed out and it runs just fine (~50-55 FPS) |
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