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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.08.31 05:37:00 -
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We are currently looking for contracts. We have the next week booked but will welcome anything else to shoot :-)
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Duke Ancore
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Duke Ancore on 01/09/2009 08:27:03
Friendly bump....helped me launch pos in a pirate lowsec area. They are very pro A++ to them
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.02 17:17:00 -
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Ill have a list of completed contracts as soon as the next few wrap up. Enjoy :-)
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.06 02:05:00 -
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A lot of interesting things are going on. A bunch of you guys eve-mail me and I reply and you never get back!
Join the channel guys. it will help us both out :-)
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.08 18:55:00 -
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Suicide ops are fun.... epically when you are getting paid to die miserably :-)
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Angelina Folie
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:19:00 -
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If you guys are free consider yourself hired :)
I'll convo you this late euro night or tomorrow.
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.14 16:18:00 -
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Were still kicking and rocking so hurry up and hire us before we get over booked again :-p
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.16 04:14:00 -
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Still for hire. Booked for 2 weeks, but if you got something else then lets do it!
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.09.28 23:56:00 -
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We currently have no contracts in que right now. Convo for job offers.
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Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.29 00:56:00 -
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My review:
FOFF was hired on a performance basis to kill WT missionrunners and hulks at a very lucrative rate (50M/30M per kill, respectively). Wardec fee was paid up front. I made it very clear that their objective was enemy carebears, not the enemy fail-PVP fleets which could easily be avoided.
FOFF engaged and destroyed an enemy PVP fleet on the first night. This was very impressive, but I reminded them again that it was the carebears I was after.
FOFF killed 0 (zero) missionrunners and miners in the first week, and spent the whole time running after the people I told them to ignore. They complained of being unable to find targets while my corp was finding and violencing several eligible targets per day. When an opportunity to pew a fail-fit enemy BS gang camping a station arose, I was told that Damien was having a bad night so they just weren't going to show. Luckily, I had not paid much since the job was performance-based and FOFF failed to perform.
Renewed the contract against my better judgement, throwing in extra on the agreed condition that they get all hands on deck the next night while we made an enemy POS sad. Two FOFF pilots showed up, with none of the leadership even logging on. The FOFF pilots that did show up to participate had to be told about the op--leadership had apparently not informed the corp of the job they agreed to do and had been paid for. In their defense, the FOFF pilots that actually showed up were competent and integrated well into our existing fleet. We got the job done, but it was only because other corps had by then joined in the wardec against our enemies and joined up with our fleet. If you pay someone to protect against a possible attack, and neither they nor the threat decides to show, is that still money well spent?
After the war ended for us, they continued to get a few WT kills until their dec ended. No missionrunners or miners.
TLDR version: Promises victory and can deliver it, as long as their management and pilots actually log on, except that they don't. Extremely poor communication with both clients and their own pilots.
Would not hire again.
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Suddenly Ninjas
Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
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Gumpter
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Posted - 2009.09.29 16:57:00 -
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Ouch. 
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:27:00 -
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were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.10.02 05:19:00 -
[43]
 Originally by: DamienEx
were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
Glad I could help you find the limitations of your ability. Enjoy the ISK.
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Forum Tr0ll
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Posted - 2009.10.02 05:39:00 -
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so why accept the contract in the first place wait whats this i smell fail mercs nawww cant even kill carebears
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Slumpert
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Posted - 2009.10.02 15:44:00 -
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I am confused...
2009.09.28 23:24
CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
On 9-29-09 Paul gives his opinion of the Mercs he hired against us.
Then
2009.09.30 05:48
Federation of Freedom Fighters has declared war on deadspace society. Within 25 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Then 10-1-09
Originally by: DamienEx
were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
I guess I should not be confused. They are going to shoot us for fun so does that mean they are not Mercs but just griefers?
Slump
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Gaelan Lionhardt
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.10.02 15:53:00 -
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They need to practice I guess |
franklin edison
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Posted - 2009.10.02 15:58:00 -
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I admit, it *is* kinda funny. We decced the Ninjas, were having a romping good time hunting each other. While on one hand claiming that they were happy about the war, the Ninjas spent money to hire mercs against us. The Ninjas then were not satisfied with the merc's performance because our pvp guys dug mixing it up with the mercs.
So, bottom line, we decced a Ninja corp, annoyed them enough they had to hire mercs, and then the mercs could not get the job done they were hired to do. How come we're the ones referred to as "fail" and "carebear" ??? lol
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.10.02 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: franklin edison
I admit, it *is* kinda funny. We decced the Ninjas, were having a romping good time hunting each other. While on one hand claiming that they were happy about the war, the Ninjas spent money to hire mercs against us. The Ninjas then were not satisfied with the merc's performance because our pvp guys dug mixing it up with the mercs.
So, bottom line, we decced a Ninja corp, annoyed them enough they had to hire mercs, and then the mercs could not get the job done they were hired to do. How come we're the ones referred to as "fail" and "carebear" ??? lol
1) You were losing the war 3:1 on ISK and about 1:1 on kills, with us losing mostly T1 frigates and cruisers, before the mercs were hired.
2) You lost 40% of your membership and over 12 billion ISK to the Ninjas alone. How do you believe that you are not fail? 
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franklin edison
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Posted - 2009.10.02 19:09:00 -
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You base it on ISK?? Ha! We light cigars with billion ISK notes. It's about who had to felt they needed to hire outsiders to help their effort. :)
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Dawts
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.02 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: DamienEx
were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
Can you at least address the issue that you had with that contract?
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Slumpert
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Posted - 2009.10.03 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: franklin edison
You base it on ISK?? Ha! We light cigars with billion ISK notes. It's about who had to felt they needed to hire outsiders to help their effort. :)
Franklin, I want a cigar and a light please...
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DamienEx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.10.03 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
Originally by: DamienEx
were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
Can you at least address the issue that you had with that contract?
Yes. We made a mistake with this employer and this contract and here are the reasons why...
-We were not given sufficient intel from the employer or his corp members. We need employers to work with us on giving us intel and specific locations of the targets they want us to kill. Had we been given more intel then "they hang out around here" such as specific mission spots their missioners were in, or areas that they went to, etc etc, then we would have gone there. As far as scouts and scanners, we had them out and about in force. Jsut becuase you dont see the F-OFF ticker, doesnt mean we dont have out of corp alts.
-We were getting paid to kill "mission ships" and miners. Addressing the mission ships, any mission ship can become a pvp ship simply by dropping a mod or two and adding a scam or a web. This was not exactly something that we could get make isk off of considering we would show up, they would dock their mission ships, and come back out with "pvp" fits. You do the rest of the math. With that said, we are only accepting contracts that get paid to kill ANY ship.
Lessons Learned:
-Dont accept contracts that target specific ships only and get paid to only kill these ships
-Make a plan with the employer with very specific locations insted of general intel
Now that this is done and settled with, please keep our thread clear unless you have anymore questions. If you want to talk about who owned who, take it to CAOD.
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.10.03 06:37:00 -
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seems to be a common theme with you guys. the employer is not responsible for giving you the intel, yes it helps, but if you accept the contract without the intel, it is your job to figure it out.
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Rock urSocksoff
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.10.03 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Roastedpot
seems to be a common theme with you guys. the employer is not responsible for giving you the intel, yes it helps, but if you accept the contract without the intel, it is your job to figure it out.
QFT
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Armoured C
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.10.03 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 03/10/2009 09:53:46
Originally by: DamienEx
were still open for business. just don't hire us to shoot carebears.
as a mercenary don't you get paid to do what the client needs ?
instead of what you want ?
and arm extensions to the joy that my former corp is doing what i will be doing
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Armoured C
Steven Mason
FOR CSM
*with added pirate hat*
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.10.03 18:19:00 -
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As stated before money ever changed hands, you had at that point all the intel we had. I have chat logs of you accepting this. Would you like me to post them?
The arrangement was "mission ships in missions" because, as you said, people will take off their faction mods, fit a scram, and go a'pewin. Our corp was handling their PVP fleets 3:1 in ISK, and killing their carebears besides, and you were hired to put more pressure on their softer targets. You failed.
The terms of the contract along with the potential difficulties were explained to you before you accepted the contract. You accepted them, failed, made excuses that are rather unimpressive (considering my then-corpmates were out doing with success what I had paid you to do), then shrugged your shoulders and said "Oh, well."
I accepted your excuses at the time when you asked for a renewal of the contract under a flat rate instead of per kill. I renewed the contract after you stated specifically that your merc corp would show up the next night to fly escort for our POS-stomping fleet. Instead, I had to track down the only two members of your corp who were online at the appointed time (you yourself did not even log in) and found that they had not been told of the job you had accepted ISK for.
At the beginning of the contract you promised me daily updates on the status of the contract. I got ONE email on the first night, and never heard from you again regarding your performance, or lack thereof. Once again, I paid you for something that you are apparently capable of doing, but just couldn't be bothered with.
What's the matter? Is it just too hard to work for or even communicate with a client after you have his money in hand?
Do you wish to address these concerns, or not? It seems to me that promising to do something, failing entirely to do it (not through incompetence but rather through failure to even log in), then keeping the money and looking for the next sucker to let down is the mark of a fail mercenary corp. Until I have a full refund and an apology for your failure to even attempt to fill the terms of the contract, I'm going to maintain that the entire thing is a too-elaborate scam.
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Skraag Shen
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Posted - 2009.10.03 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Skraag Shen on 03/10/2009 22:25:59
This will be the last response to our disgruntled client as we're not interested in a 'he said we said' flame war. We did the best job we could do with the conditions we were given. We came to the area we were instructed to but despite using neutral scanners they were too paranoid and with only a couple of exceptions always docked immediately to hide or switch to pvp setups the moment we appeared in local. We suppressed their pvp ability well (http://f-off.net/killboard/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=7) while continuing to attempt to find their carebears in the areas we were told. We are still at war with these jokers because they are fun to kill but _AFTER_ the contract finished we discovered where they _ACTUALLY_ run missions and needless to say it's not where we were contracted to hunt.
As a footnote, I had to laugh when I looked at _YOUR_ killboard to find the last pve setup BS that was killed was done so by myself.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.10.04 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Skraag Shen
Edited by: Skraag Shen on 03/10/2009 22:25:59
This will be the last response to our disgruntled client as we're not interested in a 'he said we said' flame war. We did the best job we could do with the conditions we were given.
I have logs of your representative making promises and taking my money, I have killboard records of our members able to accomplish what you guys promised then failed to even attempt. Doesn't particularly seem like a 'he-said, she-said' kind of a statement.
But oh well, we smeared them largely without your help. I'm just posting the honest review that was agreed to when the contract was accepted. Would you like those logs as well?
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SpaceSavage
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.10.04 01:13:00 -
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Oh how the mighty have fallen.
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Skraag Shen
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Posted - 2009.10.04 08:25:00 -
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Not fallen, just semi retired from the bs of 0.0 politics and taking it easy for a while in empire :)
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