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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 11:56:00 -
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After looking at this map,, and reading this is a topic above;
Quote: Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions.5. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
Does this mean CFS pay a refining tax to FA to use the region? So everyday FA go richer not by mining bistot around the clock but getting CFS to do it for them aswell?
Is it because CFS are scared of their big FA neighbours? Or lack the military might to hold their stations?
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 11:56:00 -
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After looking at this map,, and reading this is a topic above;
Quote: Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate
1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions.5. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken.
Does this mean CFS pay a refining tax to FA to use the region? So everyday FA go richer not by mining bistot around the clock but getting CFS to do it for them aswell?
Is it because CFS are scared of their big FA neighbours? Or lack the military might to hold their stations?
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:07:00 -
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Want a cookie ? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:07:00 -
[4]
Want a cookie ? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Want a cookie ? 
Double White choc chip? The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
 
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Want a cookie ? 
Double White choc chip? The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
 
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: CKOZUK
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Want a cookie ? 
Double White choc chip?
You make me feel hungry 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: CKOZUK
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Want a cookie ? 
Double White choc chip?
You make me feel hungry 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.08 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.10.08 13:05:00 -
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Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.10.08 13:05:00 -
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Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: XeQtR Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
ah ok, just curious didnt mean to cause a stir 
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: XeQtR Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
ah ok, just curious didnt mean to cause a stir 
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.08 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Reptar
Originally by: XeQtR Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
ah ok, just curious didnt mean to cause a stir 
Stir? Your telling the truth!!!
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.10.08 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Reptar
Originally by: XeQtR Yes reptar that's exactly what it means. But this has been dragged through the forums before so, prepared to be flamed.
ah ok, just curious didnt mean to cause a stir 
Stir? Your telling the truth!!!
Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.08 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics.
Ill give it a go.
Hey did you guys know CFS is dead ?
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.08 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics.
Ill give it a go.
Hey did you guys know CFS is dead ?
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics.
Ill give it a go.
Hey did you guys know CFS is dead ?
hey i heard that too Sass Arcane Technologies |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 08/10/2004 12:53:06 Another senseless topic. Btw do you see any improvements between this map and the new map? Probably CFS regain control of few stations and their home? Probably some things can only envolve slowly? Probably we had this talks 100 times already. I miss the old "CFS is dead" topics.
Ill give it a go.
Hey did you guys know CFS is dead ?
hey i heard that too Sass Arcane Technologies |

Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:08:00 -
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i heard c4 alliance is dead.. <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

Molaorim Phenaki
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:08:00 -
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i heard c4 alliance is dead.. <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll? |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:32:00 -
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Yeah thats what is being told
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:32:00 -
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Yeah thats what is being told
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thelung187
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:33:00 -
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CA, proud sponsors of Trollstock 2005. How goes the civil war over yonder there boys? I see plenty of "Blah Blah is leaving Curse Alliance" and such threads, but not too many "Joining CA."
See, I can live under a bridge too.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

thelung187
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:33:00 -
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CA, proud sponsors of Trollstock 2005. How goes the civil war over yonder there boys? I see plenty of "Blah Blah is leaving Curse Alliance" and such threads, but not too many "Joining CA."
See, I can live under a bridge too.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |

crice
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:50:00 -
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Old News:
CA has offered to assist with making CFS, "CFS Space" and removing the tryanical rule of the regime called FA in that space. They prefer to pay to the regime and continue working under slavery instead of freedom.
Life is about choices. They have made their choice.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:50:00 -
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Old News:
CA has offered to assist with making CFS, "CFS Space" and removing the tryanical rule of the regime called FA in that space. They prefer to pay to the regime and continue working under slavery instead of freedom.
Life is about choices. They have made their choice.
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:59:00 -
[29]
You gotta love CA 
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2004.10.08 17:59:00 -
[30]
You gotta love CA 
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.08 18:50:00 -
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Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.08 18:50:00 -
[32]
Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.10.08 18:56:00 -
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Posting Privileges?
| The BIG Lottery | The BIG Deal | 740331 | |

Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.10.08 18:56:00 -
[34]
Posting Privileges?
| The BIG Lottery | The BIG Deal | 740331 | |

Baun
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Posted - 2004.10.08 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: crice Old News:
No kidding, check the date on the top.
Some people apparently, however, think that posting about agreements that are over 6 months old somehow is worth everyone's time.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.10.08 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: crice Old News:
No kidding, check the date on the top.
Some people apparently, however, think that posting about agreements that are over 6 months old somehow is worth everyone's time.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2004.10.08 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
Im special.
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2004.10.08 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
Im special.
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Kahlee
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: xxShadexx
Originally by: Jorev Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
Im special.
What about me? :) oh and yeah, CFS is dead. My grandma told me last night. She heard it from the grocery guy who has the shop around the corner ----------------------------
Omniwar:You know what people do in online games to other people they cant win? Flame. |

Kahlee
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:14:00 -
[40]
Originally by: xxShadexx
Originally by: Jorev Shadex, who gave you posting priviledges in FA?
Im special.
What about me? :) oh and yeah, CFS is dead. My grandma told me last night. She heard it from the grocery guy who has the shop around the corner ----------------------------
Omniwar:You know what people do in online games to other people they cant win? Flame. |

Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:14:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: crice Old News:
No kidding, check the date on the top.
Some people apparently, however, think that posting about agreements that are over 6 months old somehow is worth everyone's time.
you mean they have been paying FA for 6 months?!?! Somebody cant stand up for themselves
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: crice Old News:
No kidding, check the date on the top.
Some people apparently, however, think that posting about agreements that are over 6 months old somehow is worth everyone's time.
you mean they have been paying FA for 6 months?!?! Somebody cant stand up for themselves
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:20:00 -
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Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:20:00 -
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Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:46:00 -
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Yes, all that can be said has been said.
I see a lot of DSMA trial member corps pop up. The storm is brewing. CFS, look out, an alliance with some sense of purpose is rising.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.08 20:46:00 -
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Yes, all that can be said has been said.
I see a lot of DSMA trial member corps pop up. The storm is brewing. CFS, look out, an alliance with some sense of purpose is rising.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.10.09 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
" Stay Frosty "
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.10.09 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
" Stay Frosty "
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Silinary
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Posted - 2004.10.09 08:04:00 -
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I believe the saying is CFS are FA puppets ...
Do note that this statement from CA usually lumps all corps that operate in the 3 regions together and not as seperate entities ...
Secondly, CA did indeed "offer" to "help" CFS make the stations theirs. What CA often does forget is they are worse when it comes to offers then FA is... or any other alliance for that matter.
They kill everyone in the region (or try to) ... then offer to help ...while killing everyone in the region. They say they are sincere in the matter and continue killing everyone in the region ... They say they wont' stop killing everyone in the region until the stations belong solely to the CFS ... in which time they will likly let a couple weeks go by, if that, and come back down trying to kill everyone saying we let FA travel through the regions and therefore everyone is helping FA and must die ...
One might think if they had such a problem with FA .. they'd take it to FA, but they can't ... so they hit the nieghbors to try and hurt FA .. which doesn't heh.
*shrug*
Always fun with CA in the pipe :)
You can do anything you set your mind to. |

Silinary
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Posted - 2004.10.09 08:04:00 -
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I believe the saying is CFS are FA puppets ...
Do note that this statement from CA usually lumps all corps that operate in the 3 regions together and not as seperate entities ...
Secondly, CA did indeed "offer" to "help" CFS make the stations theirs. What CA often does forget is they are worse when it comes to offers then FA is... or any other alliance for that matter.
They kill everyone in the region (or try to) ... then offer to help ...while killing everyone in the region. They say they are sincere in the matter and continue killing everyone in the region ... They say they wont' stop killing everyone in the region until the stations belong solely to the CFS ... in which time they will likly let a couple weeks go by, if that, and come back down trying to kill everyone saying we let FA travel through the regions and therefore everyone is helping FA and must die ...
One might think if they had such a problem with FA .. they'd take it to FA, but they can't ... so they hit the nieghbors to try and hurt FA .. which doesn't heh.
*shrug*
Always fun with CA in the pipe :)
You can do anything you set your mind to. |

Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Avernus on 09/10/2004 09:39:44 Did CFS die again???
I heard they have a ring of reincarnation +5 that they use once a week just for good measure.
ashes to ashes .... dust to du.. WTF! They're back again!!!
Edit: I think I'm going to start referring to them as 'the undead'. Must be something in the Veldspar dust. 
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Avernus on 09/10/2004 09:39:44 Did CFS die again???
I heard they have a ring of reincarnation +5 that they use once a week just for good measure.
ashes to ashes .... dust to du.. WTF! They're back again!!!
Edit: I think I'm going to start referring to them as 'the undead'. Must be something in the Veldspar dust. 
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:06:00 -
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CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:06:00 -
[54]
CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:20:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.09 11:20:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:23:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see? ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.09 12:23:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see? ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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fuze
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Posted - 2004.10.09 14:46:00 -
[59]
It's just sad that CA keeps on flaming their ennemies publicly on the forums and trying to humiliate them. With a whif of propaganda and distortion of history added. The've bullied CFS for quite some time now and they are blaiming PA are the baddies? They made up an agreement to cooperate and it worked out fine I guess.
Originally by: Silinary
One might think if they had such a problem with FA .. they'd take it to FA, but they can't ... so they hit the neighbours to try and hurt FA .. which doesn't heh.
Being an ex-CFS I'm glad CFS is starting to do quite better now. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

fuze
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Posted - 2004.10.09 14:46:00 -
[60]
It's just sad that CA keeps on flaming their ennemies publicly on the forums and trying to humiliate them. With a whif of propaganda and distortion of history added. The've bullied CFS for quite some time now and they are blaiming PA are the baddies? They made up an agreement to cooperate and it worked out fine I guess.
Originally by: Silinary
One might think if they had such a problem with FA .. they'd take it to FA, but they can't ... so they hit the neighbours to try and hurt FA .. which doesn't heh.
Being an ex-CFS I'm glad CFS is starting to do quite better now. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.10 08:11:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see?
Yes I can see. I've often heard that fools and their money are soon parted.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.10.10 08:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see?
Yes I can see. I've often heard that fools and their money are soon parted.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:25:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
Nuff said.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:25:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
Nuff said.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:26:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see?
Yes I can see. I've often heard that fools and their money are soon parted.
And i've often heard that truth hurts some. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
That is a very cheap shot.
I'm short on isk, can't you see?
Yes I can see. I've often heard that fools and their money are soon parted.
And i've often heard that truth hurts some. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:28:00 -
[67]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
blaahhhhh  "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:28:00 -
[68]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
blaahhhhh  "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:38:00 -
[69]
Man this argument has been done so many times its not worth going over again.
Reptar your not going to impress the forum *****s in your corp by recycling old threads and arguments so try find something new and interesting.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.10.10 11:38:00 -
[70]
Man this argument has been done so many times its not worth going over again.
Reptar your not going to impress the forum *****s in your corp by recycling old threads and arguments so try find something new and interesting.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.10.10 14:26:00 -
[71]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
blaahhhhh 
Hows Ginger " Stay Frosty "
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.10.10 14:26:00 -
[72]
Originally by: HeadHunta II
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Pandora Panda Yes, FA de facto controls delve, querious, and period basin.
No, CFS isnt going to do anything about it.
Yes, this is an old argument thats been run into the ground.
No, I dont want to have it again.
FA does not control Querious. they might have agreements with the CFs as regards period basis and delve, those agreements do not concern Querious.
blaahhhhh 
Hows Ginger " Stay Frosty "
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.10.10 15:15:00 -
[73]
bahahah ginger 
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.10.10 15:15:00 -
[74]
bahahah ginger 
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: crice Old News:
CA has offered to assist with making CFS, "CFS Space" and removing the tryanical rule of the regime called FA in that space. They prefer to pay to the regime and continue working under slavery instead of freedom.
Life is about choices. They have made their choice.
What abou the tyranical, as u characterise it, 20% tax on ur own alliances miners. The Gebbels era is over...try to find other ways to dividen coquer  So Far So Good....So What |

Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:03:00 -
[76]
Originally by: crice Old News:
CA has offered to assist with making CFS, "CFS Space" and removing the tryanical rule of the regime called FA in that space. They prefer to pay to the regime and continue working under slavery instead of freedom.
Life is about choices. They have made their choice.
What abou the tyranical, as u characterise it, 20% tax on ur own alliances miners. The Gebbels era is over...try to find other ways to dividen coquer  So Far So Good....So What |

BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev Yes, all that can be said has been said.
I see a lot of DSMA trial member corps pop up. The storm is brewing. CFS, look out, an alliance with some sense of purpose is rising.
dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
not home, actualy their space...nobody will do anything until big bad fa are out of the picture however
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev Yes, all that can be said has been said.
I see a lot of DSMA trial member corps pop up. The storm is brewing. CFS, look out, an alliance with some sense of purpose is rising.
dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
not home, actualy their space...nobody will do anything until big bad fa are out of the picture however
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:27:00 -
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Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:27:00 -
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Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:36:00 -
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Quote:
What abou the tyranical, as u characterise it, 20% tax on ur own alliances miners. The Gebbels era is over...try to find other ways to dividen coquer 
well thta 20% acually goes towards our fleet unlike big tax which goes into there pocket --------------------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.10 19:36:00 -
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Quote:
What abou the tyranical, as u characterise it, 20% tax on ur own alliances miners. The Gebbels era is over...try to find other ways to dividen coquer 
well thta 20% acually goes towards our fleet unlike big tax which goes into there pocket --------------------------
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.10.10 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
Nuff said.
so do trolls.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.10.10 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Vex Seraphim CFS will never die, simply because slaves breed alot.
Nuff said.
so do trolls.
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Silinary
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Posted - 2004.10.10 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev
Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
The downside that you dont' see is having not only CA *still* shooting at the people that thought they had a NAP with, but now they would have FA, possibly SA, and definatly all local corps shooting at them.
All odds and things considered, its better to just have the CA shooting at you so you know your enemy. As for Big's cut on stations ... meh ... npcs or big, it doesnt' matter ... if it wasnt' big it'd be another corp.
Two things are of a certainty ... death and taxes. 'Might as well give the taxes to someone who can use it to shoot you :)
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Silinary
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Posted - 2004.10.10 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev
Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
The downside that you dont' see is having not only CA *still* shooting at the people that thought they had a NAP with, but now they would have FA, possibly SA, and definatly all local corps shooting at them.
All odds and things considered, its better to just have the CA shooting at you so you know your enemy. As for Big's cut on stations ... meh ... npcs or big, it doesnt' matter ... if it wasnt' big it'd be another corp.
Two things are of a certainty ... death and taxes. 'Might as well give the taxes to someone who can use it to shoot you :)
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Special agent
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Posted - 2004.10.11 07:30:00 -
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1. FA controls nothing in or arround Delve / Querious 2. CFS ainŠt dead 3. FA try to to kick the "Delve-Poeple" out of delve, with there shadow Corp MACE (the Real Puppets) 4. In my eyes FA are the real Pirates. Not CA. 5. Things go on very well  6. Yes iŠm an alt 7. No iŠm not CFS / DSMA / StA / CA / FA
i must agree to Reptar. Currently the "Delve-ppl" pay there tribute to FA.
and i must agree to all the other ppl, if they say: "You must kick FA out of Delve".
So. letŠs see what time will change
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Special agent
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Posted - 2004.10.11 07:30:00 -
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1. FA controls nothing in or arround Delve / Querious 2. CFS ainŠt dead 3. FA try to to kick the "Delve-Poeple" out of delve, with there shadow Corp MACE (the Real Puppets) 4. In my eyes FA are the real Pirates. Not CA. 5. Things go on very well  6. Yes iŠm an alt 7. No iŠm not CFS / DSMA / StA / CA / FA
i must agree to Reptar. Currently the "Delve-ppl" pay there tribute to FA.
and i must agree to all the other ppl, if they say: "You must kick FA out of Delve".
So. letŠs see what time will change
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Sagainyte
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:22:00 -
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I'm somewhat puzzled
In my experience the CA attacks on Delve and Period Basis are *really* limited.
CA might camp A2, but they ALWAYS did that. CA likes action. The dont care of their member corps commit semi piratical acts to get it. It was always like that.
So CA will pirate camp A2 no matter what happens wth CFS, SA or FA.
..and lets be frank CA makes what?...1 or perhaps 2 trips to delve and period basis every week (max). And this is only in the us time zone. Most of the EU locals only read about CA on the forums.
This is why they are trolling the forums like this. This is a propaganda war carried out with minimal actual military effort.
CFS probably knows they are not in any real conflict. They should use the opportunity to get their military sorted. That is the *only* way forward for them.
Sorting your military means going on the offense. Eve is not a defending game. The game mechanics simply favor the attacker enormously. Picking time and place for engagement while defenders have to sit endless hours camping localized areas.
When CFS face CA they are fighting some of the most experienced fighters the alliance has to offer.
Dont.
Invade instead.
You will fare much better against the local CA miners and have a lot more fun while gaining experience.
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Sagainyte
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:22:00 -
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I'm somewhat puzzled
In my experience the CA attacks on Delve and Period Basis are *really* limited.
CA might camp A2, but they ALWAYS did that. CA likes action. The dont care of their member corps commit semi piratical acts to get it. It was always like that.
So CA will pirate camp A2 no matter what happens wth CFS, SA or FA.
..and lets be frank CA makes what?...1 or perhaps 2 trips to delve and period basis every week (max). And this is only in the us time zone. Most of the EU locals only read about CA on the forums.
This is why they are trolling the forums like this. This is a propaganda war carried out with minimal actual military effort.
CFS probably knows they are not in any real conflict. They should use the opportunity to get their military sorted. That is the *only* way forward for them.
Sorting your military means going on the offense. Eve is not a defending game. The game mechanics simply favor the attacker enormously. Picking time and place for engagement while defenders have to sit endless hours camping localized areas.
When CFS face CA they are fighting some of the most experienced fighters the alliance has to offer.
Dont.
Invade instead.
You will fare much better against the local CA miners and have a lot more fun while gaining experience.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:36:00 -
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tbh i play this game to have fun and shooting miners even if they are CA aint fun, dont you agree? I want to mess with the best, thats what i have done in each game. I choose everytime the hardest side and figth the toughest people thats what motivates me. Iam one of the best in what ever i do, why should i bother with 2nd level fighter or even helpless miner? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:36:00 -
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tbh i play this game to have fun and shooting miners even if they are CA aint fun, dont you agree? I want to mess with the best, thats what i have done in each game. I choose everytime the hardest side and figth the toughest people thats what motivates me. Iam one of the best in what ever i do, why should i bother with 2nd level fighter or even helpless miner? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:49:00 -
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/me likes lokas Title on his sigcard   ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
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Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2004.10.11 08:49:00 -
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/me likes lokas Title on his sigcard   ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.11 09:01:00 -
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Quote: and definatly all local corps shooting at them.
AYe thats wrong when I was dsma locals in pb were all for dsma seriouly maybe your corp and 1 or 2 others but the rest will support the people who always have defended it no money grabbing guys like BIG Yarr not a pirate --------------------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.10.11 09:01:00 -
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Quote: and definatly all local corps shooting at them.
AYe thats wrong when I was dsma locals in pb were all for dsma seriouly maybe your corp and 1 or 2 others but the rest will support the people who always have defended it no money grabbing guys like BIG Yarr not a pirate --------------------------
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Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2004.10.11 12:12:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Jorev
Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
Its an interesstimg fact.
But the Problem is:
The Most of us r hunting CA all the Time. Sometimes with success. Sometimes without.
My Point of view is: IŠll never do a NAP with CA. even if they shoot me 1000 times. I donŠt know why. But if u trust in a NAP with them ur lost. In my eyes CA isnŠt trustworthy. accept one Person who has my full respect. Ok.... 2 persons if i count Corak in 
But... You never know what will happen next. But iŠm not one of our Diplomats. Talk to them.
we defend Delve with our lives. and many good men died. WeŠll stand up. again and again. Like the Phoenix from his own ashes. WeŠll Fight every intruder. WeŠll stand against them. if they come from Curse? or are puppets of FA ( /me waves to MACE). IT DOESN`T MATTER. WeŠll try our best to keep delve clean. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
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Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2004.10.11 12:12:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Jorev
Quote: dude ive seen STAR and dsma talk of the cfs regions as their 'future space'
The only way the will be able to assert their claim is to do a nap with CA, and turn on FA. That would be a turning point. Ability to get CA on your side can create strategic leverage for them. However they distrust CA....but really, what's the worst that CA can do? Shoot them? But they do that already, so I don't see the downside.
Its an interesstimg fact.
But the Problem is:
The Most of us r hunting CA all the Time. Sometimes with success. Sometimes without.
My Point of view is: IŠll never do a NAP with CA. even if they shoot me 1000 times. I donŠt know why. But if u trust in a NAP with them ur lost. In my eyes CA isnŠt trustworthy. accept one Person who has my full respect. Ok.... 2 persons if i count Corak in 
But... You never know what will happen next. But iŠm not one of our Diplomats. Talk to them.
we defend Delve with our lives. and many good men died. WeŠll stand up. again and again. Like the Phoenix from his own ashes. WeŠll Fight every intruder. WeŠll stand against them. if they come from Curse? or are puppets of FA ( /me waves to MACE). IT DOESN`T MATTER. WeŠll try our best to keep delve clean. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
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