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Tranxion
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:18:00 -
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We got alot of noobs here trying to bump up these crapy low skills and over rated toons under 30 mill Sp. These is how you want to Bid.
1. Do not bid on any toon with a hidden buyout. If they want to sell you the toon for the right price they will list it.They just want to scam their way to an outrages price.
2. The average bidding per 1 million Sp is 200mil-300mil tops, if it does not add up to the buyout price don't buy it! It just opens the door to another scammer or someone just basing a sale of a like.
3. Look out for repeat sellers who use their alts to bump up bids. Use the search or just look at their previous post and match up any toon that helped him bump up in the past.
4. Know what your paying for. Do some research on how these toons should be trained to get your isk worth. Those who do not farm know what i am talking about. These farmers and herds are tainting this market and of course the sellers will ride this bi*ch till the fun is over.
If you can add some more input by all means guys add it. this crap has got to stop.
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Gerdan BloodELF
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:34:00 -
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hahaha this is best thread in ages
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AEPOQ
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Tranxion
We got alot of noobs here trying to bump up these crapy low skills and over rated toons under 30 mill Sp. These is how you want to Bid.
1. Do not bid on any toon with a hidden buyout. If they want to sell you the toon for the right price they will list it.They just want to scam their way to an outrages price.
2. The average bidding per 1 million Sp is 200mil-300mil tops, if it does not add up to the buyout price don't buy it! It just opens the door to another scammer or someone just basing a sale of a like.
3. Look out for repeat sellers who use their alts to bump up bids. Use the search or just look at their previous post and match up any toon that helped him bump up in the past.
4. Know what your paying for. Do some research on how these toons should be trained to get your isk worth. Those who do not farm know what i am talking about. These farmers and herds are tainting this market and of course the sellers will ride this bi*ch till the fun is over.
If you can add some more input by all means guys add it. this crap has got to stop.
Just sounds like you cant get what you want for the ISK you have, dont be upset, just look for summit with less SP
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Evil D3moN
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:39:00 -
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what are you ?!!?
Car seller ?
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Code Seller
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:43:00 -
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This ^
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Whorum Fore
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:47:00 -
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200-300m per 1mil skill points - dude you are an idiot. hahaha what a cheapskate. time costs money, that's how it is, and how it's always been. you're paying for someone's time more than anything.
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Lunewraith
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:30:00 -
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Keep making these threads, I'm sure the MD folks have lots of interest in reading vomit like this on a daily basis...
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Cute Cuddles
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Posted - 2009.08.12 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lunewraith
Keep making these threads, I'm sure the MD folks have lots of interest in reading vomit like this on a daily basis...
Go back to the bazaar and keep alt bidding on your characters and never selling them...
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Zeimanov Kalzumaan
Caldari
Haruspex Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.12 12:49:00 -
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OP is an idiot - what you are complaining about is basic economics. If people are willing to pay more per sp, then that is what it's worth - unless they can get the same number or more SP's per ISk then it's not over priced.
Just because you can't afford to buy the character you want for the money you have doesn't mean it's overpriced - you're just too poor.
Also, why the hell is it a scam? Just because people manage to get a better than everage price for a product it doesn't make it a scam - that implies dishonesty or coercion. If people want to pay a premium for something then fine - but it's hardly a scam!
Perhaps everyone should have a forum emorage everytime they can't afford stuff they want - then people wouldn't think you're a complete tool.
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SuzannaDark
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zeimanov Kalzumaan
OP is an idiot
Yup.
"Guys, guys, let's not pay more than 100-200mil per 1M SP. Then we'll drive the prices down and I can afford something!"
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:31:00 -
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We already have a moronic thread about this, it's still on the front page of MD. This has been reported accordingly.
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Daeva Vios
New Eden Credit Bureau
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
We already have a moronic thread about this, it's still on the front page of MD. This has been reported accordingly.
/signed
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Uzeer Defranz
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Posted - 2009.08.12 18:16:00 -
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Time is money true...... ~$14/month not like you have to spend any time here to "level" your toon.
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Saehta
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.08.12 18:21:00 -
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This will be dealt with.
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flakeys
Distillery
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
We already have a moronic thread about this, it's still on the front page of MD. This has been reported accordingly.
Tbh i can't even comprehend why that one is here ,leave alone 2 threads.
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Curzon Dax
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.12 22:01:00 -
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Is 300m ISK per 1m SP actually reasonable? o.O
I'd be curious to know what I'm worth.
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Acalin
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.12 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
Is 300m ISK per 1m SP actually reasonable? o.O
I'd be curious to know what I'm worth.
Ill give u 300m for the Curzon Dax character, no questions asked.
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Dannerkongen
1st Recon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 23:08:00 -
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i got 400m pr sp for my last charsale! i would have liekd more tho! he was nice
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Copious Labious
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Posted - 2009.08.12 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tranxion
2. The average bidding per 1 million Sp is 200mil-300mil tops, if it does not add up to the buyout price don't buy it! It just opens the door to another scammer or someone just basing a sale of a like.
Also, T2 BPOs are only worth 2 years projected profits, so never bid more than that.
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Sikozu Prioris
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:14:00 -
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EVE New Citizens Q&A is 3 down.
Post a question to which you can post this as an answer in there, you'll have much more luck.
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Tranxion
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Posted - 2009.08.13 02:04:00 -
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Lot of negatives, which I am not surprised.. and some positive responses. Keep it coming guys make this informational so bidders and sellers know how to buy and sell.
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HighPowerChar
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Posted - 2009.08.13 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tranxion
Keep it coming guys make this informational so bidders and sellers know how to buy and sell.
As has been pointed out above, you're in the wrong section of the forum. Post your complaints about character selling in the Character Bazaar please.  |
Crystal Tigress
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Posted - 2009.08.13 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: HighPowerChar
Originally by: Tranxion
Keep it coming guys make this informational so bidders and sellers know how to buy and sell.
As has been pointed out above, you're in the wrong section of the forum. Post your complaints about character selling in the Character Bazaar please.
Well, in OPs defense, CCP moved the thread. He did not post it in MD to begin with. So, CCP kinda decided that this was a market discussion. Tbh, I tend to agree with them. Characters are a commodity, just like plexes and GTCs.
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Teliana My - logistics pilot with research agents and gas harvesting. |
glas mir
Reaction Scientific
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Posted - 2009.08.13 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tranxion
Edited by: Tranxion on 12/08/2009 21:21:40
We got alot of noobs here trying to bump up these crapy low skills and over rated toons under 30 mill Sp. These is how you want to Bid.
Look its tranxion makes the rules day!
You don't have a monopoly on character selling so you can't set the price, you have to take the market price. It is good to be aware that alt bidding and fake sales can and do occur, but you can't say 1M sp is worth x isk. It varies with time. The days of ghost training are over and characters do take time to train. I suspect they will continue to trade over their plex funded value.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.14 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tranxion
Lot of negatives, which I am not surprised.. and some positive responses. Keep it coming guys make this informational so bidders and sellers know how to buy and sell.
But you sir, are the one spreading the lies.
There are the rules of supply and demand, yes.
There are also such terms as loss and profit.
There is also a saying "He who asks is not the fool, but he who gives" or along those lines.
This means, that while prices are dictaded by supply and demand, it's the smart people who put in the effort and patience to make a profit off the trade, and the fools are the ones who pay over the median price.
The character bazaar is largely crowded with the sub section of the "minerals I mine are free and datacores I farm are free, because my time and opportunity don't have a value". It's just a different item on sale.
If you're planning on selling a character, you might as well try, and make a profit off of him, instead accepting those lowball bids and offers that most probably are made by character traders who understand these rules themselves anyway and are trying to make profit where you're losing it.
So I suggest that you go learn how to buy and sell, before you continue giving any more "advice".
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Buyan Sell
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Posted - 2009.08.14 12:23:00 -
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'An item is only ever worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it'.
Rather than posting threads like this try reading - take a book like "Wealth of Nations" By Adam Smith.
Also look at GTC prices, the recent rise in sale value of these would indicate that isk is becoming worth less relative to goods (and toons) just call it inflation. |
Wooster Knite
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Posted - 2009.08.14 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Wooster Knite on 14/08/2009 22:12:19
OP say the thruth, whoever offend is an idiot.
I have bought 3 toon and never paid more than 200mil / 1m skill point.
apply normal market variations, but too much is too much
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