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Commander Xevon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 07:59:00 -
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Ok our corp was doing a mish for fun, damsel in distress, in motsu. We're doing it fine, blow up everything, destroy first gardens, and the subsequent spawns. Start on the next gardens, and before they destroyed (still another half of structure to go) we had to stop to fire on zor and the other guys. Soon as zor spawns I cloak (i'm in a stealth bomber. I got amarr 5 the other day and i wanted to test out the siege missiles, and got carried away. If you post about how it's dumb to use a frigate for fun, your an idiot, and please go away.). While I'm cloaked, i'm 20km (20,000 meters) from everything around me. I stay cloaked this whole time while the others tank and dish damage. All of a sudden we get a tiny lag spike and i'm sitting in a pod. Later i get the mail saying it was the pleasure gardens/unkown that killed me one shot, but I have no idea what did me in. The pleasure gardens had structure (at least half) left, i wasn't targeted, and even if i was hit once, it shouldn't have one shotted me, my boss had just shot me twice with his large artillery guns (from a macherial however you spell it) and i had half shield left. So I wanna know before i'm forced to shop over a span of some 20 systems if it was a glitch and if i can somehow get my stuff back by reporting the incident. Again, please no comments on my using a stealth bomber, until after this issue is solved.
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Bilbo II
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:04:00 -
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Can't answer your question as I don't do many missions but, you may get answers quicker in the correct sub forum. ie. the mission and complexes section.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:05:00 -
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Your friends blew up the pleasure garden, which does quite some damage to all ships arround it. A BS wont worry about it, a frigate is insta popped.
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Nick119
Minmatar
Imbroglio.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
Your friends blew up the pleasure garden, which does quite some damage to all ships arround it. A BS wont worry about it, a frigate is insta popped.
This
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Commander Xevon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Your friends blew up the pleasure garden, which does quite some damage to all ships arround it. A BS wont worry about it, a frigate is insta popped.
My point is: the first garden was destroyed, and i survived no damage. Three minutes later when we're hitting the second, the zor spawn shows up, i cloak, noticing that i'm 20km from anyone and anything, and not targeted (or else i would have decloaked) I didn't hit anything i sat still not moving, and lag spike comes along and i'm gone. The second gardens still there, no one else had damage. A minute later when the spawn is destroyed they blow up the gardens, and in my pod next to the wreck of my ship i take no damage. How did i lose my ship?
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Maria Kalista
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:08:00 -
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the garden deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km.
There's your answer.
Originally by: Jacharian
This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Brit Fox
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:09:00 -
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Ayup...Pleasure garden does a large AOE out to 50km upon its demise, that is what got yah.
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jagga Spikes on 12/08/2009 08:11:34
you got owned.
according to eve-survival, pleasure gardens deal 3000 explosive damage at 30-40 km. just a scratch for a BS, but more than enough to destroy non-tanked stealth bomber. note that this damage probably doesn't have signature/radius reduction, so full damage regardless of size.
edit: only the garden that is the target deals the damage
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:19:00 -
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We've got top men looking at it.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
We've got top men looking at it.
Who?
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Maria Kalista
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:26:00 -
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So...
Now we solved it, can we now discuss you using a stealth bomber in this mission?
Originally by: Jacharian
This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Sp4rt4nII70
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:35:00 -
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Doing it in a Torp Raven is much more fun and you can watch more of the nice explosions. Also you will not die :P
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Thernys
Caldari
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.12 12:05:00 -
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Meh I lost a Manticore to this mission once. I actually knew about the AoE damage, it just temporarily slipped my mind.
Also my presence was justified by the fact the mission was being run as bait for potential loot thieves and I was lying in wait ;)
Of course, this was before they made them torp boats...
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.08.12 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Tiny Tove
We've got top men looking at it.
Who?
Top.... Men.....
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Commander Xevon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
the garden deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km.
There's your answer.
No, that's not my answer. If you read my other posts, I said that the garden didn't blow up. The garden only does damage when destroyed. Here's the text from eve survival "Be careful when you blow it up. It deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km." So I ask you, how could i have died? There's no explanation since i was always cloaked, 20km from anything, and the gardens were destroyed AFTER a minute had passed after my ship blowing up. If anything, I believe this to have been a bug. There was a lag spike for a couple seconds before i found myself in a pod.
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Drima Veeshaub
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:52:00 -
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Why would anyone read that wall of text?
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
So...
Now we solved it, can we now discuss you using a stealth bomber in this mission?
Stealth Bombers are fun... expensive but fun.... Kinda like Mardi Gras
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Chi'kote
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Xevon
Originally by: Maria Kalista
the garden deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km.
There's your answer.
No, that's not my answer. If you read my other posts, I said that the garden didn't blow up. The garden only does damage when destroyed. Here's the text from eve survival "Be careful when you blow it up. It deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km." So I ask you, how could i have died? There's no explanation since i was always cloaked, 20km from anything, and the gardens were destroyed AFTER a minute had passed after my ship blowing up. If anything, I believe this to have been a bug. There was a lag spike for a couple seconds before i found myself in a pod.
Just petition it and wait for an answer. If there was a glitch, you'll get your ship and destroyed mods back. If not, you will get nothing.
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Catherine Frasier
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Posted - 2009.08.12 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Drima Veeshaub
Why would anyone read that wall of text?
You think that's bad? You should see these things, "books" I think they're called, sometimes they have paragraphs ten or even eleven lines long! 
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.08.12 18:59:00 -
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So you suffered a lag spike, usually associated with a massive explosion, and lost a ship. You keep saying that the pleasure garden was there but without a SS to prove it I believe you may have just gotten your facts mixed up.
At half structure Zor comes as you stated. It could be possible that somebody was either still shooting the garden or had their drones on it and you may have thought it was still at half structure. The station popped and took you with it but on your screen it may have lagged some.
10 to 1 says that ccps log show nothing.
Originally by: Whitehound
If I think, but I do not.
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Commander Xevon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: THE L0CK
So you suffered a lag spike, usually associated with a massive explosion, and lost a ship. You keep saying that the pleasure garden was there but without a SS to prove it I believe you may have just gotten your facts mixed up.
At half structure Zor comes as you stated. It could be possible that somebody was either still shooting the garden or had their drones on it and you may have thought it was still at half structure. The station popped and took you with it but on your screen it may have lagged some.
10 to 1 says that ccps log show nothing.
Yea... except we have a screenshot of the thing blowing up after i've been sitting next to my wreck for a while. So no, if there was a giant, bright explosion, i would have seen it. I did see if AFTER my ship blew up. CCP most likely won't replace it i'm sure... but there's the bug I hope they at least fix that.
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:44:00 -
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Well show us the SS. Many people here know what happens in a damsel and what you state is consistent with what happens in a damsel. So SS or it didn't happen.
Originally by: Whitehound
If I think, but I do not.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:48:00 -
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Might be that the explosion is when the structure is on low health and someone had drones on it, but when the explosion went off all drones on it died and the structure was left alive until your friends finally destroyed it.
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wickedpheonix
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Xevon
Originally by: Maria Kalista
the garden deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km.
There's your answer.
No, that's not my answer. If you read my other posts, I said that the garden didn't blow up. The garden only does damage when destroyed. Here's the text from eve survival "Be careful when you blow it up. It deals 3000 Exp AOE damage (at 0% Exp resistance) with a blast radius of between 30-40km." So I ask you, how could i have died? There's no explanation since i was always cloaked, 20km from anything, and the gardens were destroyed AFTER a minute had passed after my ship blowing up. If anything, I believe this to have been a bug. There was a lag spike for a couple seconds before i found myself in a pod.
Exactly - there was a lag spike. If you guys are on TS and the battleship guys say "OK we're shooting at the AOE 3000 exp pleasure gardens" and then you get the lag spike, the pleasure gardens probably exploded during the lag spike, and the explosion didn't show on your screen until a minute after. If your buds never shot at the pleasure garden, at all, ever though, before the lag spike hit and you showed up in a pod, then you had a glitch.
Either way, petition it, since if there was a lag spike then you never had the opportunity to warp out or anything even if you were completely aware of the situation and wanted to. And if it was a glitch, then you should be reimbursed anyways. It's really just a matter of what the logs show and how nice the GM who reads your petition is.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 00:25:00 -
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>.<
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
i for one, like 8's that look like 9's lol
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Annihilate.
Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 00:32:00 -
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I love these little suprises in missions 
wonder how many people have lost ships warping in to Recon 3 of 3?
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nahtoh
Caldari
Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:00:00 -
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Lag spike it died beofre you thought it did.
Intresting question does the AOE hit pods? Because if it does and you pod did not take damage then thats a pretty good indicator of what happened...
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Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
I love these little suprises in missions
wonder how many people have lost ships warping in to Recon 3 of 3?
Many people.
Even funnier when a pirate scans someone, warps his covops into recon 3/3, and promptly explodes.
BECAUSE OF FALCON.
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Commander Xevon
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Posted - 2009.08.13 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Lag spike it died beofre you thought it did.
Intresting question does the AOE hit pods? Because if it does and you pod did not take damage then thats a pretty good indicator of what happened...
No, the guys I ran with consisted of one veteran and a bunch of new players. They all made a big fuss about my ship blowing up, then some two minutes later went wow at the giant explosion when i saw it. Too much time in between events for it to have affected my ship unless the aoe is unseen and happens when the structure is halfway gone. If that's the case, then they should change it so that people can see an explosion and not have an issue. I doubt that's the case though...
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.13 07:52:00 -
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You blew up both pleasure gardens, is it possible the first one was what killed you? I've only ever killed those structures from BS so I don't know whether the one which doesn't trigger spawns has a Bomb on it.
Your killmail says that it was Pleasure gardens which got you which means that it was the AoE strike...
Petition, but be prepared for the wait.
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