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Astro Punk
Minmatar Astro Academy A5TRO
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Posted - 2009.08.12 16:55:00 -
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So today I have decided to spill a little bit more about the Astro Punk.
I was reading a thread about players joining corps with the sole intention of killing corp members and I just had to have a chuckle and a quick little reminisce.
This story starts when it became really obvious that my main characters didn't get into a lot of fights due to their age. It seems that a 4 year old pvp character is something to be feared.
I see all these guys that are doing suicide runs on miners and loosing sec and ships for marginal gains. Then I see the adds in local about how such and such mining corp is looking for new members. Muhahahaha, this is going to be too easy, almost to the point where it won't really be fun....almost.
So off I go to the forums to look for just the right character with enough skills to be useful and pass any sort of screening process that he may have to be put through. I try to spend under 2 billion because I am also a cheap skate.
So now I have a pilot that can fly some sort of mining ship and apply to join a corp, and I always get accepted. I go out on a mining op and sure enuf there will be a few hulks and maybe an Orca.
I type that I need to go afk for a sec to get a drink or bio or whatever and dock up.
I undock in my cruiser,and for this I actually prefer caracals with all those mid slots, mid slot full of points...and highs full of missiles, muhahahahaha.
I warp back to the gang and start putting points on hulks and such, and open fire on a hulk and type in fleet that I expect ransoms of 50 mil per player..and as I splash the first hulk the rest get the idea that I am serious..and then there is that free pod kill...I love this.
I guess because miners think like miners they don't know how to warp that pod away..and they die screaming.
This has been my game for over 2 years. It always works. I remember my mates complaining about being broke and me explaining this scam to them. They couldn't believe that it would work, well, not until they tried it and laughed so freaking hard when it did that they had nothing but praise for me and my purely evil idea's.
This whole scam has worked so well that there is now a forum thread where players are actually crying their little care bear hearts out about it.
My advice to all of you that believe that Eve is a happy little plushy world where you will never get hurt as long as you stay in a .5 or above and never take something that is not your is this. You are wrong.
This game is full of nasty people that will do nasty thing for several nasty reasons..my favorites being:
A) I do it for ****z and giggles, B) I do it for the isk, C) I do it because I am bored, D) I do it because I want to see the emo and save the mails that follow, E) I like salvaging your T2 wrecks, F) It makes me laugh and it makes my friends laugh to, G) All of the above...
I really love this game.
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No Homo
Gallente Big Heart Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:06:00 -
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Enthralling tale, friend.
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Cre'tal
Eminent Disdain
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cre''tal on 12/08/2009 17:13:51 My ADD medication must be working. I made it all the way to the 3rd paragraph.
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LordSwift
Caldari Fearless Phantoms Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:18:00 -
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Good for you. You get your rocks of causing people to emo etc.  Join the brown Coats today!!! |

JitaBum
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:20:00 -
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I like the bit where
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:02:00 -
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So... U befriend a few people then stab them in the back... cuz u get off on it... hmm... got some serious RL issues right? Stephdad beat u much?
I know it's a game and all... but stories like these seriously make me wonder about some people... serialkillers in the making impo  ________________________________________________
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 So... U befriend a few people then stab them in the back... cuz u get off on it... hmm... got some serious RL issues right? Stephdad beat u much?
lolz
you got scammed/griefed in the past?
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Novan Leon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:39:00 -
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This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
If this is true, methinks this person may have a penchant for sadism. I can understand partaking in this activity a few times out of boredom, curiosity or the simple desire to "cause a little trouble", but the OP seems to enjoy creating pain for others on a regular basis.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:51:00 -
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Is YOUR Corp recruiting???
My Alt needs a home ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban |

De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:53:00 -
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Fortunately, this only works when the miners think like miners, and not like combat pilots that happen to be mining.
What happens then is the three hulks and orca all point their (# of ships x 5) T2 light and/or medium drones at the attacking ship and WTFOMGBBQPWN it into very small pieces.
Then we kick you from the corp. And mock you. We live for the mocking. 
I do, however, agree with the idea that you're never safe - anywhere. They only way to be 100% safe in Eve is to not play. Unfortunate, but true. --Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Astro Punk
Minmatar Astro Academy A5TRO
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Novan Leon This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
If this is true, methinks this person may have a penchant for sadism. I can understand partaking in this activity a few times out of boredom, curiosity or the simple desire to "cause a little trouble", but the OP seems to enjoy creating pain for others on a regular basis.
Lies, this is a game and no different from monopoly really, you get board walk and park place and you get to be the boss, no matter who lands on your real estate you get to completely grind them. So as long as you remember that you are playing a game...it really has no reflection on who you are in real life because it is not real life...it is code on a screen and you don't even know the person you are profiting from. And btw..it wasn't that long ago that a hulk cost 500 mill and you could easily get 50 mil from a pilot..or more so there was a whole heap of motivation to attack them..the same kind of motivation that made me always get boardwalk and park place...I play to win..and that applies to my real life to, after all, easy money is always easy money.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Novan Leon This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: 000Hunter000 So... U befriend a few people then stab them in the back... cuz u get off on it... hmm... got some serious RL issues right? Stephdad beat u much?
lolz
you got scammed/griefed in the past?
Evidently whatever happened to him was so grievous as to shake all the spelling and grammar out of him. -----
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Niifur Rabon
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
I think you are actually proving Novan Leon's point. You enjoy an agressive and mischievous playstyle in EVE, but probably there is no desire for such behaviour in you real life. Being mean in the game still evidently caters to some part of your psyche.
I'm not saying that you are a "mean person" because of this, just that a fictional world can expose different parts of our persona than the real world.
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Bazuka
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Bazuka on 12/08/2009 20:59:05
Originally by: Sokratesz
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
Let me guess. You love what you do because you are fascinated by the sounds the insects make when you torture them. Comooooon admit it!!!
   Sorry I couldn`t resist, no pun intended. ___________
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rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Novan Leon This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
In eve, I have pirated, ransomed, destroyed ships for no reason. I manipulate markets to wipe out others profits simply because I can.
In actual life I'm a responsible citizen, I detest violence unless absolutely necessary, and I am fairly reserved in expressing my true beliefs.
It's interesting how our eve persona's are different from our actual lives. |

Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Bestofworst Worstofbest on 12/08/2009 21:19:04
Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Novan Leon This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
and I am fairly reserved in expressing my true beliefs.
Not on the OOPE (I kid.. I kid..) ________________________________________________
My Music |

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:23:00 -
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This sort of thing is why my main is in a solo corp.
Well, that and my insanity.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:37:00 -
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Well, it may cater to some hidden part of my psyche but the usual accusations about unhappy childhoods, abuse, inferiority complexes and general ****tyness are hilarious.
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Linda Lipsynch
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Posted - 2009.08.12 23:01:00 -
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PvP by subterfuge. Awesome. It is, isn't it?  No. It's like a duck shoot and the only skill you've exercised is the sneaky+10 one.
But hey, you love it. Go girl.
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Lurana Lay
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.12 23:54:00 -
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Quote:
A) I do it for ****z and giggles, B) I do it for the isk, C) I do it because I am bored, D) I do it because I want to see the emo and save the mails that follow, E) I like salvaging your T2 wrecks, F) It makes me laugh and it makes my friends laugh to, G) All of the above...
I really love this game.
Main Entry: sa+dism Pronunciation: \ˈsā-ˌdi-zəm, ˈsa-\ Function: noun Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary, from Marquis de Sade Date: 1888 1 : a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others (as on a love object) ù compare masochism 2 a : delight in cruelty b : excessive cruelty
It's pretty clear to me.
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Babel
Boom and Bust Economics Ltd. N0thing To See Here
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Novan Leon This reminds me of an earlier discussion about the nature of "honor" in EVE Online. I argued that how you play EVE is partially a reflection of who you are as a person. To take part in activities in EVE that would otherwise be abhorrent in real life, as a person you have to enjoy that kind of behavior at some level.
Not true ...
In Eve I'm a complete carebear, helpful, wouldn't hurt a fly etc.
RL = Murderous psychopath ...
so .. no. . "Out of the good of evil born, Came Uriel's voice of cherub scorn" |

Pandemonium Heresy
Amarr Interstellar Commodity and Product Exchange
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:46:00 -
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You have much to teach us. _________________________________________________
FOR THE SLAUGHTER! |

W3370Pi4
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Posted - 2009.08.13 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Astro Punk My Thread Du jour
that will be all _______ Join the "Legit Trading"Channel *Scam Free Trading Channel* |

Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 04:41:00 -
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Good for you, never really liked killing people just for fun of watching them squirm. Hell, I'll kill a man in a fair fight. Or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight. Or if he bothers me. Or if there's a woman. Or if I'm gettin paid... mostly only if I'm gettin paid.
yes, yes I did. ------------------------------
Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Novan Leon
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Novan Leon on 13/08/2009 16:41:34 Edited by: Novan Leon on 13/08/2009 16:40:35
Originally by: Niifur Rabon
Originally by: Sokratesz In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
I think you are actually proving Novan Leon's point. You enjoy an agressive and mischievous playstyle in EVE, but probably there is no desire for such behaviour in you real life. Being mean in the game still evidently caters to some part of your psyche.
I'm not saying that you are a "mean person" because of this, just that a fictional world can expose different parts of our persona than the real world.
This is exactly what I'm saying. I'm not claiming that vicious killers in EVE will be vicious killers in real life. I'm saying that EVE is a world without rules or fear of consequences (relatively speaking). This freedom gives people the ability to express aspects of their personality that are otherwise kept in check in the real world.
Being a merciless killer in EVE may not be a reflection of your real-life behavior, but it does probably express a part of you that enjoys the feeling of power and domination over others, that is otherwise suppressed (for good reason) in real life.
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Midnite Blue
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Posted - 2009.08.13 19:53:00 -
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In Eve, I'm a quiet carebear that tries not to upset someone else's day. I grind missions, kill some sleeper rats, mine occasionally, and sometimes build stuff.
In real life, I'm wildly self-destructive and aggressive. I enjoy playing rock 'n roll far too loud, drinking to excess, picking fights, and occasionally punching kittens.
So what was this thread about again? |

Spurty
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:06:00 -
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So you are the guy keeping people poor so they don't buy all the faction loot I've been trying to sell.
I see...
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i for one, like 8's that look like 9's lol
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Ron Target
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Novan Leon Edited by: Novan Leon on 13/08/2009 16:41:34 Edited by: Novan Leon on 13/08/2009 16:40:35
Originally by: Niifur Rabon
Originally by: Sokratesz In eve I have killed thousands of people, behaved aggressively in general and taken opportunities at the cost of others. I have scammed people for virtual assets worth hundreds of euro's and am currently in possession of a starship capable of vaporizing entire starship fleets in an instant.
In real life I'm doing a biology MSc while working as a student councillor and am fascinated by ants and other insects. I read a lot, mostly science or nature related, and my friends would at best classify me as a little eccentric. I have never stolen anything and rarely if ever get into arguments with people.
So...no.
I think you are actually proving Novan Leon's point. You enjoy an agressive and mischievous playstyle in EVE, but probably there is no desire for such behaviour in you real life. Being mean in the game still evidently caters to some part of your psyche.
I'm not saying that you are a "mean person" because of this, just that a fictional world can expose different parts of our persona than the real world.
This is exactly what I'm saying. I'm not claiming that vicious killers in EVE will be vicious killers in real life. I'm saying that EVE is a world without rules or fear of consequences (relatively speaking). This freedom gives people the ability to express aspects of their personality that are otherwise kept in check in the real world.
Being a merciless killer in EVE may not be a reflection of your real-life behavior, but it does probably express a part of you that enjoys the feeling of power and domination over others, that is otherwise suppressed (for good reason) in real life.
Guys...girls...I think you missed the whole point of the thread, and while you may all be enjoying the friendly banter and the freedom to share what opinions CCP deems fit to let you share, I think the point of the story was that there is a quick way to make easy ISK with a very low amount of risk.
I don't think the OP ever said he killed all the pilots, just one of them to set an example for the others to see. I would assume that after that the rest would shell out said ransom and get on with their day...or be so enraged that they go and set fire to their pet or something..either way I think its a great freaking idea.
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