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POS Trader Merchants of Lore 6	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:16:00 - [31] - Quote Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday??
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 216	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:35:00 - [32] - Quote On a larger picture, I am forced to ignore all the fudged numbers about EVE subs and perfect record of growth. Around 18 months ago, several MMO websites put EVE in the 'big league' because it had broke a 500K subscription mark but now you see people talking about EVE having 300K "And growing". That's a 40% decline in top numbers so someone is selling snake oil.
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 77	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:38:00 - [33] - Quote POS Trader wrote: Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday?? missing the point, means people aint unsubbing There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 77	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:39:00 - [34] - Quote Ocih wrote: On a larger picture, I am forced to ignore all the fudged numbers about EVE subs and perfect record of growth. Around 18 months ago, several MMO websites put EVE in the 'big league' because it had broke a 500K subscription mark but now you see people talking about EVE having 300K "And growing". That's a 40% decline in top numbers so someone is selling snake oil. unless ccp say the numbers its prob wrong There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1090	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:45:00 - [35] - Quote Snow Burst wrote: Ocih wrote: On a larger picture, I am forced to ignore all the fudged numbers about EVE subs and perfect record of growth. Around 18 months ago, several MMO websites put EVE in the 'big league' because it had broke a 500K subscription mark but now you see people talking about EVE having 300K "And growing". That's a 40% decline in top numbers so someone is selling snake oil. unless ccp say the numbers its prob wrong Last I checked the most recent details CCP have given put us at around 410k subs. It might have broken 500k pre-incarna, but not that im aware of. Would be nice if they still released the QEN. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Frying Doom 198	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:47:00 - [36] - Quote Vaju Enki wrote: EvE is going strong, long live EvE Online I would have said EvE is going flat. No real ups, no real downs and this expansion was the first one not to have a population spike before its release(or if there was one it was so small as to not show up). That might just be because inferno was crap if so see CSM6, might just be because EvE in its current form has no ability to gain more players than it is loosing. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. Local Channel in Null must Die. Jump Drives need Nerfing. Null is meant to be dangerous and hard. Not safe and boring.
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 79	Posted - 2012.05.28 23:47:00 - [37] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: Snow Burst wrote: Ocih wrote: On a larger picture, I am forced to ignore all the fudged numbers about EVE subs and perfect record of growth. Around 18 months ago, several MMO websites put EVE in the 'big league' because it had broke a 500K subscription mark but now you see people talking about EVE having 300K "And growing". That's a 40% decline in top numbers so someone is selling snake oil. unless ccp say the numbers its prob wrong Last I checked the most recent details CCP have given put us at around 410k subs. It might have broken 500k pre-incarna, but not that im aware of. Would be nice if they still released the QEN. meh i dnt really care whether eve loses players or gain if they gain i get more kills if they lose then i get more freedom There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Ban Bindy Bindy Brothers Pottery Association 153	Posted - 2012.05.29 00:53:00 - [38] - Quote 45k players is pretty pathetic for the week after an expansion on a holiday in US.
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 116	Posted - 2012.05.29 01:03:00 - [39] - Quote Ban Bindy wrote: 45k players is pretty pathetic for the week after an expansion on a holiday in US. at 1 point in time outside of us peak time thts decent There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Raistlim Deep Space Supplies Curatores Veritatis Alliance 3	Posted - 2012.05.29 01:56:00 - [40] - Quote POS Trader wrote: Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday?? It was also a holiday in a couple european countries: Pentecost
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 122	Posted - 2012.05.29 01:58:00 - [41] - Quote Raistlim wrote: POS Trader wrote: Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday?? It was also a holiday in a couple european countries: Pentecost most eve euro players are uk or russian n we dnt have a holiday i dnt think There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Rosewalker Khumaak Flying Circus 5	Posted - 2012.05.29 02:14:00 - [42] - Quote Ocih wrote: On a larger picture, I am forced to ignore all the fudged numbers about EVE subs and perfect record of growth. Around 18 months ago, several MMO websites put EVE in the 'big league' because it had broke a 500K subscription mark but now you see people talking about EVE having 300K "And growing". That's a 40% decline in top numbers so someone is selling snake oil. The actual numbers that CCP gave to a site called MMOData are that Eve subs peaked at 370,000 last summer and fell to 340,000 in December. In April, the number of subs was back up to 361,000. Any numbers over 400,000 includes trial accounts and accounts in China playing on the Serenity server. If you listen carefully you will hear CCP say "players" and not "subscriptions." As for the number of players online, according to Chribba's Eve-Offline site, the average number of accounts logged in Sunday, 20 May was 29,976. The average number logged in on Sunday, 27 May was 31,054, a 3.6% increase. I'll be interested to see what the numbers are on a Sunday when Hulkageddon is not running. You also have to factor in that a lot of bots still weren't working quite right on Sunday. But unless Team Game of Drones does something funky when fixing the universal inventory, I think the bots will be fixed and up and running again The Nosy Gamer
Raistlim Deep Space Supplies Curatores Veritatis Alliance 3	Posted - 2012.05.29 02:26:00 - [43] - Quote Snow Burst wrote: Raistlim wrote: POS Trader wrote: Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday?? It was also a holiday in a couple european countries: Pentecost most eve euro players are uk or russian n we dnt have a holiday i dnt think DevBlog from 2008 with the distribution of eve players around the world (On the bottom of the Blog. I dont know how much that changed over the last 4 years.): http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=562
Anashka caldari Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 8	Posted - 2012.05.29 03:20:00 - [44] - Quote unsubbing because of a inventory system just plain Rtarded
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 148	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:12:00 - [45] - Quote Anashka caldari wrote: unsubbing because of a inventory system just plain Rtarded exactly There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 148	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:13:00 - [46] - Quote Raistlim wrote: Snow Burst wrote: Raistlim wrote: POS Trader wrote: Cloned S0ul wrote: Ps. 45,000+ is still good result espetialy is Monday a day with low amount people every week. people are in work or school depend time zone. You do realize that US has a holiday?? It was also a holiday in a couple european countries: Pentecost most eve euro players are uk or russian n we dnt have a holiday i dnt think DevBlog from 2008 with the distribution of eve players around the world (On the bottom of the Blog. I dont know how much that changed over the last 4 years.): http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=562 think itd be usa russia n uk top 3 now There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7457	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:25:00 - [47] - Quote For the recordGÇª GÇªalso, the geographical distribution of players throughout the years can be found in the CSM voting results devblogs (about half-way down the page, there is GÇ£Turnout by country was as followsGÇ¥ and a table that includes the GÇ£Subscription %GÇ¥ heading). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Wasse Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 4	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:25:00 - [48] - Quote Let me start by saying, I don't like the new UI system. However, I have no problem trying to adapt. I would not say that the new inventory system breaks my game play for doing any normal things. With mining, however, the system is broken. Period. Anyone who is serious about mining, is running a lot of accounts. Otherwise, why not just rat? I can make 150mill ratting fairly easily. (yes, using multiple accounts). The way that mining out does that - is by running a large number of accounts. I could mine with no difficulties/problems, pre patch, with 7-8 accounts running at once. Now, even with just 7 online (5 miners, 1 rorq, 1 tank), the system is laggy. It's not about adapting. Make the inventory system 'instant' (like the old system), and fix pos's (which they are supposed to), I can deal with trying to adapt. But having to adapt around lag should not be acceptable. Am I going to threaten to cancel my subscriptions? No. The truth is - if they don't make it more acceptable for mining somehow, I will likely unsub the extra accounts that just mine. (and then rat to pay for my PvP). I'm hoping they figure this out though.
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 148	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:27:00 - [49] - Quote this is about WiS not the ui lol There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 521	Posted - 2012.05.29 10:48:00 - [50] - Quote Tippia wrote: For the recordGÇª GÇªalso, the geographical distribution of players throughout the years can be found in the CSM voting results devblogs (about half-way down the page, there is GÇ£Turnout by country was as followsGÇ¥ and a table that includes the GÇ£Subscription %GÇ¥ heading). That was interesting, thanks for the links, Tippia. I would be interested in seeing a graph of the same format as the one you linked, but a seasonal graph. I'm just curious as to how the daily numbers are affected during winter and during summer, northern and southern hemispheres. o/ The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7460	Posted - 2012.05.29 12:02:00 - [51] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: That was interesting, thanks for the links, Tippia. I would be interested in seeing a graph of the same format as the one you linked, but a seasonal graph. I'm just curious as to how the daily numbers are affected during winter and during summer, northern and southern hemispheres. I haven't updated them in a while, but I have this one GÇö the eve-offline daily averages graph cleaned up and colour-coded (less noise, each season is clearly marked) GÇö and this one, showing the difference in weekly and monthly averages compared to the preceding year. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Lucy Ferrr Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2012.05.29 13:23:00 - [52] - Quote Ban Bindy wrote: 45k players is pretty pathetic for the week after an expansion on a holiday in US. Except Memorial day is a holiday that is celebrated outside. Many of us have family and friends and lives outside of Eve, you may not but many of us do. I got better **** to do than internet space ships when its 85 and sunny. I was not on during the weekend, and I also just sub'ed a new account. Numbers are always deceptive, they can be manipulated to say what you want. I love Eve, but I will take sunshine and BBQs over internet spaceships every single time.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 523	Posted - 2012.05.29 13:25:00 - [53] - Quote Tippia wrote: Thorn Galen wrote: That was interesting, thanks for the links, Tippia. I would be interested in seeing a graph of the same format as the one you linked, but a seasonal graph. I'm just curious as to how the daily numbers are affected during winter and during summer, northern and southern hemispheres. I haven't updated them in a while, but I have this one GÇö the eve-offline daily averages graph cleaned up and colour-coded (less noise, each season is clearly marked) GÇö and this one, showing the difference in weekly and monthly averages compared to the preceding year. Dammit Tippia, sometimes you're just too good! hehe Thanks for these o/ The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 523	Posted - 2012.05.29 13:32:00 - [54] - Quote Tippia, correct me if I am wrong, but are those charts looking like they are plotting a slow, declining trend ? Looking at those charts for year-on-year, it's a very slow decline, but it's there....Looks worrisome to me :/ Perhaps I am wrong. The lines look more or less stable, but still a slight overall drop. Is there someplace that I could actually obtain the raw data from ? I would like to get a perspective on the peaks and troughs and the year-on-year variances. Interesting to see some sharp peaks in summer. I thought more folks would rather spend their summer vacations outdoors, an exception to that appears to be online gamers. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7469	Posted - 2012.05.29 14:20:00 - [55] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: Tippia, correct me if I am wrong, but are those charts looking like they are plotting a slow, declining trend ? Looking at those charts for year-on-year, it's a very slow decline, but it's there. If you're talking about the year-to-year difference graph, it's not so much a decline as a reduction in increaseGÇª well, aside from the whole Incarna d+¬b+ócle. Quote: Is there someplace that I could actually obtain the raw data from ? It's just the eve-offline data. If you GÇ£show sourceGÇ¥ on the page, you can see the XML that feeds into the different graphs, and I then use the fugliest hack of an XSLT stylesheet ever to convert it into CSV. Quote: Interesting to see some sharp peaks in summer. I thought more folks would rather spend their summer vacations outdoors, an exception to that appears to be online gamers. Yup. The whole GÇ£population goes down during summerGÇ¥ thing is largely a myth that came into prominence last summer as people tried to defend Incarna and the reductions in players it generated. The only other large summer dip was in 2009, and coincided with Unholy Rage when they banned 5,000 bots in one goGÇª hmmmGÇª My guess is that EVE is a bit different than most other online games: you don't log in for a short while to just do something while the food is cooking GÇö you either log in for a minute to change skills/update trades/check on S&I timers, or you log in for hours on end to actually play. During summers, people don't have to get up the next day (or at least, when they do, they don't have to look like they've got a full night's sleep because there are no meetings to go to) so they do stay logged in for those extra hours in the evenings. Compare this to the late spring, when those late hours are used to finish GÇ£that last thingGÇ¥ before the vacation (be it finals, the report on this year's big project, crunch time for the last code commit or whathaveyou), or early autumn when people go back to school/work full of energy and with new delusions of doing a good job in a timely fashionGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
L0rdF1end Sicarius. When Hippos Attack 44	Posted - 2012.05.29 15:33:00 - [56] - Quote Im so bored of players whining about this and that. You should all be grateful CCP developed such an awesome game and continue to put money into it to improve it even further.
Snow Burst RED.OverLord 155	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:23:00 - [57] - Quote L0rdF1end wrote: Im so bored of players whining about this and that. You should all be grateful CCP developed such an awesome game and continue to put money into it to improve it even further. 1)agree 2) cough* we put money into eve not ccp they spend the money on dust tht other twilight mmo and eve... There Is A 90% Chance All Of What You Just Read Is Wrong, Inaccurate Or Just Me Being Controversial In Some Way.-áOr By Some Chance It's Completely Right In Every Way... At Least To Me :3

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