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Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 130	Posted - 2012.05.29 15:03:00 - [31] - Quote Jafit wrote: The new bomb effects are very pretty by the way https://wiki.pleaseignore.com/images/3/31/Bombrun.gif TEST/PL bomber fleet led by Mr Vee during a fleet fight with Nulli in AJI-MA on Sunday night. Here is the video footage of the fight. (Dem bomb effects) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ns-ugNW-A And for all who are wondering how long the whole op took...it was about an hour. We formed up, bridged into AJI, murdered Nulli, bridged home.
Nikodiemus Jokulhlaup 24	Posted - 2012.05.29 15:05:00 - [32] - Quote Underwhelming lemming fleet battle with frantic caller and little else of interest. Still, Branch looks more fun than when i was there last.
Baby ChuChu Ice Cream Asylum 77	Posted - 2012.05.29 15:42:00 - [33] - Quote I watched the video. I don't want to be involved.
Maz Ngomo Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.05.29 15:48:00 - [34] - Quote Um... no. Tbqh, the only nullsec entity I'd genuinely want to be involved with is the Fairlight Corp of RnK, and the only reason for that is so I could listen the beautiful voices of Alazais and Princess Aricia. Seriously, I could listen to those two recite the telephone directory and it would be like aural sex to me. Wait, what was the question again?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1535	Posted - 2012.05.29 16:33:00 - [35] - Quote I am in nullsec right now - ALONE - unsupported, and far from home, and having some rather epic moments. The whole epic battle thing does draw in the people who watched a lot of Star Wars and Star Trek (I think the DS9 series had the best in fleet fights). But what gets dangled in front of players and what players end up with when going to 0.0 are two different things. And CCP is the last entity to blame, by the way. It's the players who make going to 0.0 the way it is, and why a lot of players won't go there. And yet it's much of the talk from people in 0.0 who claim that the attitudes of players, the carebears in particular, must change. This is in fact reciprocal. My solution: let all ships dial in a system to system warp and then we'll see the end of gate camps, the Great Wall of Carebear (bears on BOTH sides) and some real solo and small gang PVP. Also make resources finite, with roid belts in highsec that can be mined out of existence - or at least requiring some months to come back, and mission agents that run out of work, plus tech moons that can be mined flat and require a long time to replenish, and then we will see some real inferno. Until then, it's all just bored gate campers pulling a Jan Brady in the forums while pretending they liked their decision to move to 0.0 and sit on a gate all day for overlords who could care less about them while raking in the big ISK.
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 100	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:03:00 - [36] - Quote I like to play solo.... and I hate the term "CareBear". i think it's just stupid...made up by some flake...
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 73	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:12:00 - [37] - Quote Shot-caller clearly drank too much Red Bull(tm). Either that, or is a panicky dork. Whichever, glad I wasn't a part of that, or there'd have been a serious case of 'blue-on-blue.' Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Kaaeliaa Ministry of War 205	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:22:00 - [38] - Quote Sorry OP, your video sucks and I have absolutely no interest in massive lag, blinky red boxes, huge blobs of almost exactly the same ships, and someone with an annoying voice repeating things 7.3 times. Personally, if the FC really needs to repeat stuff more than once, then he/she needs to find people who know how to listen properly. That kind of gameplay repulses me because it's basically a single-player game for the FCs. They call all the shots, and anyone who steps out of line gets yelled at. There's very little in the way of excitement without shifting tactical situations. That's why small-scale PvP is much more entertaining. Too bad it's mostly dead thanks to the fact that the nullsec alliances are so rich that they can afford to throw dozens of capships at their enemies with reckless abandon.
Vicky Somers Rusty Anchor 54	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:26:00 - [39] - Quote OP is being a moron for posting such a laggy nagfest. This is a much better video to impress carebears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtFxx7FDIo
Greyscale Dash Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 30	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:27:00 - [40] - Quote Vicky Somers wrote: OP is being a moron for posting such a laggy nagfest. This is a much better video to impress carebears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtFxx7FDIo That's pretty unrealistic though.
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 71	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:29:00 - [41] - Quote Sentient Blade wrote: I'm a nullsec PvPer and FC and to be quite frank I wouldn't want to be in a blob of that size, I don't see how it's fun. It is not. You align, if the FC is competent enough makes fleet warp to "x", you land and start targeting once again if the FC is competent enough to link in fleet history (faster targeting for members) and has DBRB just said "blap" stuff in that order. If this is considered as gameplay then playing some pvp rogue or shadow in wow requires a a tremendous QI above general Eve player. It's a lot more than just let "stuff" being donne by others (FC) and at least one dozen more skills used for fights. But they also have dumb down stuff like click&win. Eve it's absolutely not complicated, it's just tedious, requires numbers to succeed and very little personal skill.
Arrs Grazznic Poena Executive Solutions 60	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:34:00 - [42] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: I don't even have to watch that to know I want to get back to 0.0, but to be frank, I don't have the nescary dedication at this time and I do not wish to be yet another member who doesn't show up at any CTAs like most alliances have right now. Pretty much this. I have no time to play EVE at the moment, let along dedicate the time needed to be an active members of a space holding alliance.
Price Check Aisle3 1	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:34:00 - [43] - Quote Man, listening to that FC was painful. I doubt I could do that for an entire op, turned off the video after about a minute.
Rezig Huruta AD ASTRA Interstellar 17	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:46:00 - [44] - Quote Price Check Aisle3 wrote: Man, listening to that FC was painful. I doubt I could do that for an entire op, turned off the video after about a minute. It was quite difficult to watch and listen to. Typically, I can't stand the videos with just music blasting, I like to hear the chatter, but that was miserable. I know nothing about FC'ing, but shouldn't he be giving general orders to subordinate squadrons who then actually pick the target? Or for these battles does EVERYONE shoot the same poor sap? Because... if that's the case, that's too bad.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 982	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:56:00 - [45] - Quote Greyscale Dash wrote: Watch this video of null sec pvp and tell me you don't want to be involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76_hgZ2BQM&feature=related After seeing that, is there any way you can say, without lying, that you don't want to die for your space empire? I doubt it. Nullsec is the ultimate in player driven content, and once you get a taste of it you will never want to leave. Instead of crunching on rocks and grinding missions you can be a soldier in an epic battle where empires are born and die, where your every action can make all the difference in the world. Try it. I know it's nice to gold coat stuff. What happens instead is that you become just an umpteenth warm body in the hands of moon goo puppeteers. Here is your epic: to be a lowly servant of somebody else swimming in riches in your face. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1590	Posted - 2012.05.29 17:57:00 - [46] - Quote Wow that looks...boring. What did the average pilot do during that battle? Orbit an anchor and shoot primary? It's that pretty much the MO of incursions? I'll stick to small gang warfare. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Baldrik DeLeNoir Beltane Legion 13	Posted - 2012.05.29 18:07:00 - [47] - Quote Greyscale Dash wrote: Watch this video of null sec pvp and tell me you don't want to be involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76_hgZ2BQM&feature=related After seeing that, is there any way you can say, without lying, that you don't want to die for your space empire? I doubt it. Nullsec is the ultimate in player driven content, and once you get a taste of it you will never want to leave. Instead of crunching on rocks and grinding missions you can be a soldier in an epic battle where empires are born and die, where your every action can make all the difference in the world. Try it. Hmmmmm, looks boring as **** to me, and you have to listen to some jerk pretending he's some sort of hero. I'll continue to fly solo thanks.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 982	Posted - 2012.05.29 18:09:00 - [48] - Quote FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Wow that looks...boring. What did the average pilot do during that battle? Orbit an anchor and shoot primary? It's that pretty much the MO of incursions? I'll stick to small gang warfare. Guild Wars 2 PvP is 1000 times better than the quality of EvE blobbing. Only saving grace in EvE are small roams. EvE PvP is too long to setup, too long to find something to kill and that won't insta-cyno 800 supercaps. No fun elements like personal positional tactics, no personal line of sight relevance, no subtle personal tricks (FCs do have theirs though). No real collision detection bar some 1990 half broken "collision spheres" that only work some times. Plus ships stop like they are swimming in water. Nuff said. EvE PvP can be played by damn clickers, the WORST in the PvP industry, who would lose to any competitive PvP game baddie. I have played in 0.0 blobs, it was a snooze + lag fest. Only saving grace was our FC, when he'd finally get drunk and started singing then we'd do some epic deeds, but still within the obsolete PvP gameplay of EvE. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
TheBreadMuncher Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance 85	Posted - 2012.05.29 18:27:00 - [49] - Quote Greyscale Dash wrote: Watch this video of null sec pvp and tell me you don't want to be involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76_hgZ2BQM&feature=related After seeing that, is there any way you can say, without lying, that you don't want to die for your space empire? I doubt it. Nullsec is the ultimate in player driven content, and once you get a taste of it you will never want to leave. Instead of crunching on rocks and grinding missions you can be a soldier in an epic battle where empires are born and die, where your every action can make all the difference in the world. Try it. That looks like the most boring PVP video I've ever seen... I'll stick to non-blobby highsec/wormhole PVP, thanks. I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned.
theteck 7	Posted - 2012.05.29 19:28:00 - [50] - Quote without miner how you construct ship you need for this? you will know soon how mutch you pay for your new ship ... ore will be a lot expansive ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\| I'm from Qu+¬bec and english its my secondary language...-á\|-á
Xela Dioved Black Panzers 1	Posted - 2012.05.29 19:42:00 - [51] - Quote Greyscale Dash wrote: Watch this video of null sec pvp and tell me you don't want to be involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76_hgZ2BQM&feature=related After seeing that, is there any way you can say, without lying, that you don't want to die for your space empire? I doubt it. Nullsec is the ultimate in player driven content, and once you get a taste of it you will never want to leave. Instead of crunching on rocks and grinding missions you can be a soldier in an epic battle where empires are born and die, where your every action can make all the difference in the world. Try it. Greyscale Dash has 5 losses and zero kills listed on Battleclinic, this sums up her viewpoint, she needs cannonfodder, but is not willing to be cannonfodder. Hypocrisy!
Apolyon I AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 49	Posted - 2012.05.29 20:10:00 - [52] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrYe_4vHzgE&feature=fvwrel for blob-haters. I'm sure many have watched this but I still linked it out, pretty damn good small-scale pvp where skills matter
Twulf The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact 76	Posted - 2012.05.29 20:17:00 - [53] - Quote Greyscale Dash wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: Yeah, looks awesome.... I'd love to sit there watching little red x's while some nerd chants targets on Vent. You seriously think this is good gameplay? Maybe it's compelling at the strategic level. How many players get to plan that bit? One? Five? Personally, I'd rather play my own "eve extistence", where I call all the shots, intead of being a little drone in somebody else's game, but heck it's a sandbox, go ahead and do what you want to. I call this brilliant, award winning, gameplay. It is the most emergent, complex, gameplay I've ever encountered in an MMO. You clearly need to play more PVP games, EVE is no different then any other MMO really. Sure it has more Sandbox features but its not complex. Once you know the mod's and ships its all about knowing the counters and all that takes its time and effort. DAOC was way more fun PVP everyday of the week, **** Zek PVP in Everquest is more fun then PVP in EVE.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1538	Posted - 2012.05.29 20:29:00 - [54] - Quote Twulf wrote: Greyscale Dash wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: Yeah, looks awesome.... I'd love to sit there watching little red x's while some nerd chants targets on Vent. You seriously think this is good gameplay? Maybe it's compelling at the strategic level. How many players get to plan that bit? One? Five? Personally, I'd rather play my own "eve extistence", where I call all the shots, intead of being a little drone in somebody else's game, but heck it's a sandbox, go ahead and do what you want to. I call this brilliant, award winning, gameplay. It is the most emergent, complex, gameplay I've ever encountered in an MMO. You clearly need to play more PVP games, EVE is no different then any other MMO really. Sure it has more Sandbox features but its not complex. Once you know the mod's and ships its all about knowing the counters and all that takes its time and effort. DAOC was way more fun PVP everyday of the week, **** Zek PVP in Everquest is more fun then PVP in EVE. Man I hated DAoC PVP for some reason. I mean, I'd spend several minutes running with the zym and then get smoked by a pack of those floating vampire players - I forget what they were called. The only fun I was was playing one of those minotaur-headed characters - this was long ago and for a short time so I forget the names of everything. My ex was a hardcore DAoC vet who might still be playing it if they haven't shut out the lights yet. My bullhead dude's name was "Peoplefighter" and the casters used to run when they saw him coming. That was enjoyable yet I shortly left DAoC after that. PVP with a beast spec hunter in WoW was enjoyable if not for the win, but for the sheer enjoyment of watching them getting chewed up while they tried to find your shadow-melded NE. I think they nerfed that, but have not been back since the end of 2007. EvE PVP has the potential to be great, but only because I think this game has a hard-core following and so long as the FiS portion is not affected, there's no "gold ammo" or MT involved, CCP has the balls to try new stuff. Balls in MMO development is always a good thing so long as they don't end up on your chin.
Diana Valenti United Abominations. 31	Posted - 2012.05.30 10:02:00 - [55] - Quote Epic battles indeed. Ctrl + click, F1, repeat.
Baldrik DeLeNoir Beltane Legion 16	Posted - 2012.05.30 10:41:00 - [56] - Quote Jafit wrote: The new bomb effects are very pretty by the way https://wiki.pleaseignore.com/images/3/31/Bombrun.gif TEST/PL bomber fleet led by Mr Vee during a fleet fight with Nulli in AJI-MA on Sunday night. Oraac Ensor wrote: Sit at my computer and do what someone else tells me to? No thanks. Perhaps you'd prefer to play a single player game instead of this subscription based single sharded unified open world PvP MMO? Because you're taking up server resources which could be used by us when we actually play the game as CCP advertises it. Perhaps, you could realise that you can work with other people, without having someone else telling you what to do all the time. Perhaps you should go and find a game where everyone agrees with having only one style of game play - yours.
N'maro Makari The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 66	Posted - 2012.05.30 10:48:00 - [57] - Quote Jafit wrote: The new bomb effects are very pretty by the way https://wiki.pleaseignore.com/images/3/31/Bombrun.gif TEST/PL bomber fleet led by Mr Vee during a fleet fight with Nulli in AJI-MA on Sunday night. Oraac Ensor wrote: Sit at my computer and do what someone else tells me to? No thanks. Perhaps you'd prefer to play a single player game instead of this subscription based single sharded unified open world PvP MMO? Because you're taking up server resources which could be used by us when we actually play the game as CCP advertises it. You're nothing special. N'maro Makari Director of Public Relations The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
ACE McFACE Acetech Systems 685	Posted - 2012.05.30 10:48:00 - [58] - Quote I can safely say I don't want to be part of that. Plus I have lived in null so im not talking from no experience. It doesnt help when they call primaries I end up being the first one to die (CURSE YOU ALPHABET) I just gotta go fast!

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