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Naj Ymoch
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Naj Ymoch on 15/08/2009 23:37:10 It's understandable that we'd want to let people return to the game and continue their character's progress, regardless of how long they've been gone. However, I don't think this makes much sense in the case of corporations.
EVE has a large community, and it makes sense that alot of the desirable corporation tickers (tags) are going to be taken, let alone full names. That being said, I don't] think it makes much sense to let a corporation stand indefinitely. I could safely say that the majority of corporations still 'open' today were created over a year ago by trial accounts, and are kept 'open' by 1 of said trial account. Ridiculous.
Many newer online games with built-in community support have methods in place for those communities which fall inactive to be removed. It works. Few people, if any, have complaints about this because they can just as easily create a new one if and when they do return to the game. They may have to choose a new name or tag if this does happen, however, depending on how desirable or popular it may be - this is probably half of the reason why these methods exist. Regardless, it's not the same as if you were to lose your account or character.
There are already mechanics in place for a corporation to lose an office & its assets when it doesn't pay the station's rental fees. It seems like a no-brainer to me that we should have the same conditions for having a corp open to begin with. There are many ways you could go about this, the most sensible being the office. Everyone who has created a corp already knows that in order to create one in the first place, you must pay an intial rental fee to open an office. It's not optional. If this determines whether you can create one to begin with, it should also determine whether you can keep it open or not.
TO PUT IT SIMPLY: Make the corporation office a requirement for its headquarters. No office, no headqarters, and no corporation. People who plan to leave the game for any period of time can invest in a corp's ISK reserves to ensure that it can automatically pay its rent while they're gone.
WHY: To give the regular, active players more freedom to choose a corporation name & ticker that they truely desire, without having to resort to something as stupid as number substitution (6 looks like a G), spaces or even symbols.
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Spud Mackenzie
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:41:00 -
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I'd love to see a way to free up all the corps that haven't gone anywhere since they day they were created. Someone made a disposable alt, claimed the corp name, and never logged into that account again.
Especially with the other threads talking about too many POS occupying moons for no reason. If a corp anchors a POS, and then doesn't pay their fees and loses their registration, the POS will either unanchor or just be confiscated along with the rest of their assets. Then we'd have more names to use, and more moons to occupy.
I'd also like to see a way to recover all the claimed and never played character names. Characters who haven't gained 0.01 standings in 5-6 years.
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JonnyKay
Gallente Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:47:00 -
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they really need to find out some way of freeing up names.. I hate seeing so many people with numbers in their names.
Mayby, if a player doesnt use his character for 2 or 3 years then it's name would become available to be used. Example: If someone else wants that name when they're making a character then they get it. If the original dude resubs and logs on, he should need to repick his character's name.
Also, if noone logs on in a corp/alliance within like, 1 or 2 years then the corp's name should be put up for taking as well.. _________________________________________________
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Spud Mackenzie
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Spud Mackenzie on 15/08/2009 23:57:05 It's cute that CCP thinks if they just leave everything on their databases, maybe someday the players will come back for it all...
Kinda like the puppy who sits and stares at the door waiting for you to come home from work.
Interesting how they leave all the names and assets waiting, yet they recently decided "Ghost training" was no longer a game feature, but an exploit to be removed?
Someone takes a month break from the game, and their account is frozen solid so they don't gain a single SP without paying... yet POS occupy moons, corps tie up names and tickers, and unused characters force new paying players to use l33t to get a decent name.
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EdwardNardella
Caldari Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.16 03:16:00 -
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What about employment histories?
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Naj Ymoch
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.16 17:12:00 -
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I don't think there's any sensible way you could do this for characters. Personally, I would prefer that they continue to let people keep characters indefinitely, if it holds any chance of keeping the community alive and kicking. I want to support EVE, and to do that I must support the community. Besides, I had little trouble choosing a name that I enjoy; use a name, instead of words from the dictionary.
However as I stated before, this isn't the case with corporations; letting them stay open literally forever with only 1 member, no activity and no rent/upkeep whatsoever is a different story. People will always return to EVE for their character, NOT this placeholder corp... assuming they even remember that it's there.
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Akira2501
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Posted - 2009.08.16 17:47:00 -
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I've taken extended breaks from EVE and I come back. (I often spend my summer outdoors and my winter playing eve). So I understand the need to have corp names and other DB content stay arround.
That said I agree with the OP, there should be a term limit on holding a name. Perhaps a renual every 6-months to a year. |

Valandril
Caldari Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.08.16 18:07:00 -
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No, this is history. I wouldn't want to see random nit flying under m0o flag ie. Do not discuss moderation in your signature. Zymurgist |

Lucas Avidius
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.16 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lucas Avidius on 16/08/2009 22:03:31
Originally by: Valandril No, this is history. I wouldn't want to see random nit flying under m0o flag ie.
So then maybe there should be a way to link to that history. Right now if you search for a corp it can show you closed corps. Why not when searching for a corp show former corps that had the same name? And in the corps show info button you could have a button "search for previous corps named XXX" Make the front page of a corps show info page (well, the big blue header with the icon, name and HQ) show the founded on date as well.
Could do the same thing with players. And if players change name, show that in their history under a "former aliases" tab or something with date and time ranges like the employment history has.
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Naj Ymoch
Empyreal Guard
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Posted - 2009.08.17 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril No, this is history. I wouldn't want to see random nit flying under m0o flag ie.
This happens all the time on the internet. Hell, alot of times there will be 10 or more clans with the same name and/or tag all at once. This doesn't mean they're made of the same members as the next, nor does it mean they represent the same idea.
I could see where you are coming from in terms of real world things like name brands, band names etc. where the organization may not still exist but their ideas are still in production. You obviously wouldn't want to take up the name of one of these, without a good reason.
On the other hand, nobody really cares if you were to have the same name as an organization that never made it and 'died' 5 or more years ago. CCP needs to allow for a method for corps to 'die' in a more official way.
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Ydyp Ieva
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.17 14:18:00 -
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Corporations that don't hold an officer for over a period of 3 months, are getting closed automaticly. That way at least a corporation has a constant moneysink, as it is now to easy to create a place holder corp, don't take an office to have the name for free for eternity. Which is a bit over the top if you ask me, a corporation should have at least a set HQ to function properly. ---------------------------------- None of yet! |
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