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S'Daria	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:09:00 - [1] I just about ** my pants when I saw this. Is this true from this thread? Heavy Drone Computer Link I Activates a real time communications link with heavy drones providing them with improved targeting data. Leads to significant improvements in manoeuvring, tracking and the damage caused to the target. Stats: - Orbit Speed Bonus: 400% - Damage Mod: 5x - Tracking Speed Multi: 5% - Max Speed Bonus: 400% - Energy use: 1Cap / 10sec Fitting: - High Slot / 50 CPU / 20,000 MW Scout Drone Computer Link I Activates a real time communications link with heavy drones providing them with improved targeting data. Leads to significant improvements in manoeuvring, tracking and the damage caused to the target. Stats: - Orbit Speed Bonus: 15% - Damage Mod: 1.075x - Tracking Speed Multi: 1.075% - Max Speed Bonus: 25% - Energy use: 1Cap / 10sec Fitting: - High Slot / 35 CPU / 5 MW Small Drone Hangar II This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -10 - Drone Space: +200M3 - Cargo Bonus: -25% Fitting: - Low Slot / 80 CPU / 80 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 3 Medium Drone Hangar II This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -15 - Drone Space: +400M3 - Cargo Bonus: -30% Fitting: - Low Slot / 120 CPU / 320 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 4 Large Drone Hangar II** This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -20 - Drone Space: +800M3 - Cargo Bonus: -35% Fitting: - Low Slot / 160 CPU / 1280 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 5
S'Daria	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:09:00 - [2] I just about ** my pants when I saw this. Is this true from this thread? Heavy Drone Computer Link I Activates a real time communications link with heavy drones providing them with improved targeting data. Leads to significant improvements in manoeuvring, tracking and the damage caused to the target. Stats: - Orbit Speed Bonus: 400% - Damage Mod: 5x - Tracking Speed Multi: 5% - Max Speed Bonus: 400% - Energy use: 1Cap / 10sec Fitting: - High Slot / 50 CPU / 20,000 MW Scout Drone Computer Link I Activates a real time communications link with heavy drones providing them with improved targeting data. Leads to significant improvements in manoeuvring, tracking and the damage caused to the target. Stats: - Orbit Speed Bonus: 15% - Damage Mod: 1.075x - Tracking Speed Multi: 1.075% - Max Speed Bonus: 25% - Energy use: 1Cap / 10sec Fitting: - High Slot / 35 CPU / 5 MW Small Drone Hangar II This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -10 - Drone Space: +200M3 - Cargo Bonus: -25% Fitting: - Low Slot / 80 CPU / 80 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 3 Medium Drone Hangar II This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -15 - Drone Space: +400M3 - Cargo Bonus: -30% Fitting: - Low Slot / 120 CPU / 320 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 4 Large Drone Hangar II** This huge unit replaces part of a ships cargo with a large drone bay. It also causes a slight reduction in the ships maximum speed Stats: - Speed: -20 - Drone Space: +800M3 - Cargo Bonus: -35% Fitting: - Low Slot / 160 CPU / 1280 MW Skills: - Hull Upgrades level 5
Riddari	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:21:00 - [3] 20.000 MW Good news for us Drone specialists though! ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:21:00 - [4] 20.000 MW Good news for us Drone specialists though! ¼©¼ a history
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:23:00 - [5] theres been dronebay modules in the database for a very long time (before release and then some), nothing new there (theres a fighter bay one also as far as I know, even bigger) not seen the links before, heavy drones didn't exist at release that I'm aware of ? and orbit and tracking are more recent too, which might be positive signs .. but they also might not. Hrm 20,000 mw .. thats not gonna fit on a dom without a Load of controls heh. . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2004.10.11 02:23:00 - [6] theres been dronebay modules in the database for a very long time (before release and then some), nothing new there (theres a fighter bay one also as far as I know, even bigger) not seen the links before, heavy drones didn't exist at release that I'm aware of ? and orbit and tracking are more recent too, which might be positive signs .. but they also might not. Hrm 20,000 mw .. thats not gonna fit on a dom without a Load of controls heh. . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
Joe	Posted - 2004.10.11 04:47:00 - [7] Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime...
Joe	Posted - 2004.10.11 04:47:00 - [8] Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime...
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.11 05:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Joe Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime... I dont think Iteron V will ever fit more then 1 Drone Hangar. 2x80MW is a bit too much.
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.11 05:23:00 - [10] Originally by: Joe Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime... I dont think Iteron V will ever fit more then 1 Drone Hangar. 2x80MW is a bit too much.
Nakir	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:29:00 - [11] Think this is a "Carrier Class" based item which class maybe has a reduction bonus in PG usage of these Modules same like Covert Ops Frigs on covert ops cloaking II to prevent for using in usual ships. Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless.
Nakir	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:29:00 - [12] Think this is a "Carrier Class" based item which class maybe has a reduction bonus in PG usage of these Modules same like Covert Ops Frigs on covert ops cloaking II to prevent for using in usual ships. Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless.
S'Daria	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:31:00 - [13] Are they actually releasing this with Shiva? I haven't tried looking on Sinularity...
S'Daria	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:31:00 - [14] Are they actually releasing this with Shiva? I haven't tried looking on Sinularity...
Siddy	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:55:00 - [15] OMG! will that link going to make drones Pwn arse /me runs out to fit SmartBomb -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.10.11 06:55:00 - [16] OMG! will that link going to make drones Pwn arse /me runs out to fit SmartBomb -------------------------------------------
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.11 11:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Nakir Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless. It can be fitted: Dominix stats: Power: 9000MW Low slots: 7 Eng lvl5 coef: 1.25 7xPower Control System coef: 1.15^7 90001.251.15^7=29925MW So, there is inaf room for some smaller guns and shield tanking. Considering that dammage multiplier is 5x per drone, average Dominix with 10 heavy drones make damage like 50 drones!! Who need guns anyway? Dont forget the speed bonuses
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.11 11:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Nakir Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless. It can be fitted: Dominix stats: Power: 9000MW Low slots: 7 Eng lvl5 coef: 1.25 7xPower Control System coef: 1.15^7 90001.251.15^7=29925MW So, there is inaf room for some smaller guns and shield tanking. Considering that dammage multiplier is 5x per drone, average Dominix with 10 heavy drones make damage like 50 drones!! Who need guns anyway? Dont forget the speed bonuses
Acab	Posted - 2004.10.11 13:20:00 - [19] Walks away mumbling and pondering about a Dominix called "The Hornet's nest"... Acab
Acab	Posted - 2004.10.11 13:20:00 - [20] Walks away mumbling and pondering about a Dominix called "The Hornet's nest"... Acab
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:04:00 - [21] I can't help remembering the last time I launched 13 drones and had them all destroyed by a smartbombing battleship. Totally useless! (ok, ok, I was fitted with 6 medium Nos but activated them on the wrong target - perhaps I could have neutralised the battleship smartbomb with my nos).
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:04:00 - [22] I can't help remembering the last time I launched 13 drones and had them all destroyed by a smartbombing battleship. Totally useless! (ok, ok, I was fitted with 6 medium Nos but activated them on the wrong target - perhaps I could have neutralised the battleship smartbomb with my nos).
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:05:00 - [23] oh.... my.... god... SWEEEEEET!!!
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:05:00 - [24] oh.... my.... god... SWEEEEEET!!!
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:15:00 - [25] well, gues Domi is gonna be good at something else then mining now:=) B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:15:00 - [26] well, gues Domi is gonna be good at something else then mining now:=) B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
NTRabbit	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:30:00 - [27] Are you sure that its 20gw and not just a typo on 2000mw? -------- #eve-online irc.stratics.com - Former official IRC channel (Legacy) #eve-online irc.coldfront.net - Official Unofficial IRC channel WE R 4TW!
NTRabbit	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:30:00 - [28] Are you sure that its 20gw and not just a typo on 2000mw? -------- #eve-online irc.stratics.com - Former official IRC channel (Legacy) #eve-online irc.coldfront.net - Official Unofficial IRC channel WE R 4TW!
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:40:00 - [29] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 11/10/2004 14:47:35 Originally by: NTRabbit Are you sure that its 20gw and not just a typo on 2000mw? Damn, beat me to it. This looks like a typo, especially when you look at the reqs for the other module... Edit: Also, coooooooool .
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:40:00 - [30] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 11/10/2004 14:47:35 Originally by: NTRabbit Are you sure that its 20gw and not just a typo on 2000mw? Damn, beat me to it. This looks like a typo, especially when you look at the reqs for the other module... Edit: Also, coooooooool .
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:42:00 - [31] it is 20.000 I just checked B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:42:00 - [32] it is 20.000 I just checked B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:48:00 - [33] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 11/10/2004 14:58:48 Originally by: Bad'Boy it is 20.000 I just checked No, we were alluding to a typo in the actual stats, not the first post. It's not the first time, and probably won't be the last. If you look at the differences between the two drone comps, you will see the same cap use, and a lower tracking/dmg mod on the 20,000 Mw one, so I'm guessing it was keyboard error. .
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:48:00 - [34] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 11/10/2004 14:58:48 Originally by: Bad'Boy it is 20.000 I just checked No, we were alluding to a typo in the actual stats, not the first post. It's not the first time, and probably won't be the last. If you look at the differences between the two drone comps, you will see the same cap use, and a lower tracking/dmg mod on the 20,000 Mw one, so I'm guessing it was keyboard error. .
Siddy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:50:00 - [35] Originally by: Joe Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime... naah - mining barges will be there -------------------------------------------
Siddy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:50:00 - [36] Originally by: Joe Iteron mk5's, with 2x Small Drone Hanger 1's, 8x mining drones, and miner II's will be filling Empire in notime... naah - mining barges will be there -------------------------------------------
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:55:00 - [37] Originally by: drunkenmaster Originally by: Bad'Boy it is 20.000 I just checked No, we were alluding to a typo in the actual stats, not the first post. It's not the first time, and probably won't be the last. oh..k, that would be great:) B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 14:55:00 - [38] Originally by: drunkenmaster Originally by: Bad'Boy it is 20.000 I just checked No, we were alluding to a typo in the actual stats, not the first post. It's not the first time, and probably won't be the last. oh..k, that would be great:) B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Sewell	Posted - 2004.10.11 15:19:00 - [39] If you log into shiva and do a search for "drone" you get lots of interesting results. In excess of the modules posted above you also have lots of drone skills, Rouge drones, repair drones, salvage drones and various Angel cartel drone facilities. Unfortunatly, I think most of this stuff probably have been in the code all the time since release, and won't be released with shiva. That beeing said - there is a lot of cool stuff in EVE just waiting for some Dev time and love - and eventually activation. =)
Sewell	Posted - 2004.10.11 15:19:00 - [40] If you log into shiva and do a search for "drone" you get lots of interesting results. In excess of the modules posted above you also have lots of drone skills, Rouge drones, repair drones, salvage drones and various Angel cartel drone facilities. Unfortunatly, I think most of this stuff probably have been in the code all the time since release, and won't be released with shiva. That beeing said - there is a lot of cool stuff in EVE just waiting for some Dev time and love - and eventually activation. =)
Diana Merris	Posted - 2004.10.11 15:48:00 - [41] Nice. Looking at the Scout Drone Computer I'd say that was a very nice module whereas the Heavy Drone one is totally overpowered. Given that the scout one has a 7.5% boost to tracking and damage and the heavy one has 5% to tracking the damage should be 5% as well. Speed boost on the Scout is 15% orbit and 25% to max; the heavy is probably supposed to be 40% to both. Also, given that this is a computer and not a super uber laser the powergrid is probably supposed to be 20mw. Assuming any of these ever make it to live. The drone hangers have been around forever but never in game.
Diana Merris	Posted - 2004.10.11 15:48:00 - [42] Nice. Looking at the Scout Drone Computer I'd say that was a very nice module whereas the Heavy Drone one is totally overpowered. Given that the scout one has a 7.5% boost to tracking and damage and the heavy one has 5% to tracking the damage should be 5% as well. Speed boost on the Scout is 15% orbit and 25% to max; the heavy is probably supposed to be 40% to both. Also, given that this is a computer and not a super uber laser the powergrid is probably supposed to be 20mw. Assuming any of these ever make it to live. The drone hangers have been around forever but never in game.
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 16:12:00 - [43] Edited by: Bad'Boy on 11/10/2004 16:13:29 question is if its one module for one drone is for all targeted or how..... B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2004.10.11 16:12:00 - [44] Edited by: Bad'Boy on 11/10/2004 16:13:29 question is if its one module for one drone is for all targeted or how..... B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Shimatu	Posted - 2004.10.11 18:45:00 - [45] that heavy drone thingy is WAY overpowered. unless you especially want domis (well, and other things capable of fitting that comp link) to be literally the only ship worth flying? 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Shimatu	Posted - 2004.10.11 18:45:00 - [46] that heavy drone thingy is WAY overpowered. unless you especially want domis (well, and other things capable of fitting that comp link) to be literally the only ship worth flying? 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.11 20:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Shimatu that heavy drone thingy is WAY overpowered. unless you especially want domis (well, and other things capable of fitting that comp link) to be literally the only ship worth flying? Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... It'd be just like a gankageddon except with drones, massive firepower but once targeted by couple ships, not too hard to bring down.
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.11 20:45:00 - [48] Originally by: Shimatu that heavy drone thingy is WAY overpowered. unless you especially want domis (well, and other things capable of fitting that comp link) to be literally the only ship worth flying? Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... It'd be just like a gankageddon except with drones, massive firepower but once targeted by couple ships, not too hard to bring down.
Shimatu	Posted - 2004.10.11 21:19:00 - [49] umm, 50-75 heavy drones (thats about what drone boats would basically have) is a lot more powerful than a gankageddon i think... cant bothered thinking of it exactly, but it sure sounds like a helluva lot given how quickly just 13 can down my scorps shields... :P 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Shimatu	Posted - 2004.10.11 21:19:00 - [50] umm, 50-75 heavy drones (thats about what drone boats would basically have) is a lot more powerful than a gankageddon i think... cant bothered thinking of it exactly, but it sure sounds like a helluva lot given how quickly just 13 can down my scorps shields... :P 3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.12 05:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ?
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.12 05:24:00 - [52] Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ?
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:19:00 - [53] Originally by: Maric Originally by: Nakir Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless. It can be fitted: Dominix stats: Power: 9000MW Low slots: 7 Eng lvl5 coef: 1.25 7xPower Control System coef: 1.15^7 90001.251.15^7=29925MW So, there is inaf room for some smaller guns and shield tanking. Considering that dammage multiplier is 5x per drone, average Dominix with 10 heavy drones make damage like 50 drones!! Who need guns anyway? Dont forget the speed bonuses Yes but the average Domi has 14 heavy drones WOOHOO!
ElCoCo	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:19:00 - [54] Originally by: Maric Originally by: Nakir Don¦t think that you can fit some thing on a Drone carrier like Domi or Typhoon so if you can fit it¦s useless. It can be fitted: Dominix stats: Power: 9000MW Low slots: 7 Eng lvl5 coef: 1.25 7xPower Control System coef: 1.15^7 90001.251.15^7=29925MW So, there is inaf room for some smaller guns and shield tanking. Considering that dammage multiplier is 5x per drone, average Dominix with 10 heavy drones make damage like 50 drones!! Who need guns anyway? Dont forget the speed bonuses Yes but the average Domi has 14 heavy drones WOOHOO!
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:13:00 - [55] Edited by: Directive on 12/10/2004 09:30:44 Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? strike that out, I just double-checked and my figures were wrong.
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:13:00 - [56] Edited by: Directive on 12/10/2004 09:30:44 Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? strike that out, I just double-checked and my figures were wrong.
Judge Fodder	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:27:00 - [57] Originally by: Directive Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. Dude you're not using compound interest formula. The percentages are multiplied, not added. Base 9000 With eng5 = 9000 x 1.25 = 11250 With 7x 15% mods = 11250 x (1.15^7) = 29925
Judge Fodder	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Directive Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. Dude you're not using compound interest formula. The percentages are multiplied, not added. Base 9000 With eng5 = 9000 x 1.25 = 11250 With 7x 15% mods = 11250 x (1.15^7) = 29925
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:29:00 - [59] Fixed above, I just rechecked.
Directive	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:29:00 - [60] Fixed above, I just rechecked.
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:32:00 - [61] Originally by: Directive Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. Are You shore about 715%? I think it is 15%^7. Must check this as soon as I long on. Anyway, 700MW can be quite inaf, shield hardeners are not PG demanding and guns are obsolete with such drone power. Downside will be isk cost of 7RCU2. It will be interesting having Galente POS with such module.
Maric	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:32:00 - [62] Originally by: Directive Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. Are You shore about 715%? I think it is 15%^7. Must check this as soon as I long on. Anyway, 700MW can be quite inaf, shield hardeners are not PG demanding and guns are obsolete with such drone power. Downside will be isk cost of 7RCU2. It will be interesting having Galente POS with such module.
qrac	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:32:00 - [63] Edited by: qrac on 12/10/2004 09:34:41 Originally by: Directive Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. nah.. it's like this: (basegrid)(engineering skill)(rcu2)^n (n being the number of rcu2's). 90001,251,15^7=29925 ------------------------------------------- Insanes numquam moriuntur!
qrac	Posted - 2004.10.12 09:32:00 - [64] Edited by: qrac on 12/10/2004 09:34:41 Originally by: Directive Originally by: Maric Originally by: Directive Like I pointed out somewhere, the Domi would have 700 PG after low slots full of RCU2's... How You calculate this 700PG ? Engineering5=+25% RCU2=+15%, 7x15%=+105% so total is +130% and 130% of 9000 is 11700, so you get 20700 grid. nah.. it's like this: (basegrid)(engineering skill)(rcu2)^n (n being the number of rcu2's). 90001,251,15^7=29925 ------------------------------------------- Insanes numquam moriuntur!

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