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Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 07:43:00 - [61] You know something big has happened when there's still a buzz on jabber 6-7 hours later. :D Thanks for the entertainment. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Hinkledolph Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.18 07:44:00 - [62] Pregnant wife aggro prevented me from awesome battle... That's it !!! No moar kids !!!
Faekurias Caldari Raptus Regalitor	Posted - 2009.08.18 10:39:00 - [63] Looks nice, like fun was had by all. Very impressive show by specifically Atlas + -A- and Razor. -------------------------
Kriegbokk Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 11:25:00 - [64] Epic battle. A brutal time was had by all. What better time for my ISP to drop me for 5 minutes.
Karunel Gallente Princeps Corp Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 11:39:00 - [65] I think I joined the wrong alliance, all the big capital battles are either saturday night or at USA TZ. Bastards GF everyone, except for the trolls. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:00:00 - [66] Originally by: Mya ElleTerego from the sounds of it and the numbers, looks like AAA, and atlas did pretty damn good. Good job guys. Epic fight that I missed :( For cynoing in, sure. Too bad for the lack of reinforcements Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Zymurgist
Karunel Gallente Princeps Corp Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:06:00 - [67] It's more fun that way. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Reprimander Caldari Failswarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:11:00 - [68] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Mya ElleTerego from the sounds of it and the numbers, looks like AAA, and atlas did pretty damn good. Good job guys. Epic fight that I missed :( For cynoing in, sure. Too bad for the lack of reinforcements they fielded less, and killed more - also, your killboard recently makes you look worse than KIA, thats really quite something
Yung Mi Caldari Radically Awesome People Eaters NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Mya ElleTerego from the sounds of it and the numbers, looks like AAA, and atlas did pretty damn good. Good job guys. Epic fight that I missed :( For cynoing in, sure. Too bad for the lack of reinforcements wow i dont understand you at all... could you please go over that one more time?
Cone Filler Caldari Highwaymen	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:25:00 - [70] hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about
Josh Silver Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 12:44:00 - [71] Originally by: Karunel I think I joined the wrong alliance Well at least that didn't take long for you to realize, so there might still be a bright future ahead of you.
Cupdeez Caldari Out of Order Cult of War	Posted - 2009.08.18 14:46:00 - [72] WTF... -o3- is 100% USA based and we would have gladly jump in 10+ Dreads to kill some rzr, goonies, and PL. You sure this was a USA timezone OP? Not only that but it was a COW POS? Grrrr.
Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 14:59:00 - [73] Originally by: Cupdeez WTF... -o3- is 100% USA based and we would have gladly jump in 10+ Dreads to kill some rzr, goonies, and PL. You sure this was a USA timezone OP? Not only that but it was a COW POS? Grrrr. DonÆt feel bad, it was a "big boy" fight and even Goons were told about it late so not many would show upààagain. Hats off to Atlas/A for bringing it. Dr. Shot Just sayin.....
Soft Alan Caldari Vale Tudo. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 15:18:00 - [74] Originally by: Cone Filler hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about Except when you remove every trace of your enemy from the field and begin looting 170 capital wrecks. Apart from that, sure.
von Goethe Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 17:22:00 - [75] Originally by: Snot Shot Hats off to Atlas/A for bringing it. And especially for leaving it to be salvaged
Hinkledolph Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.08.18 17:31:00 - [76] Originally by: Cone Filler hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about You are someones bitter alt or just mad?
Reprimander Caldari Failswarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 17:31:00 - [77] Originally by: Soft Alan Originally by: Cone Filler hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about Except when you remove every trace of your enemy from the field and begin looting 170 capital wrecks. Apart from that, sure. Yeah, wow... when they looted all those cap recharger II's and the odd seige mod, they might have enough ISK for 2 dreads! seriously, unless there is lots of phat office loot, the ISK value of looted mods is trivial 90 dreads killed, v's 70 dreads lost for AAA/AA - and they fielded far less numbers
Beverly Sparks Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 17:34:00 - [78] Edited by: Beverly Sparks on 18/08/2009 17:35:58 Originally by: Cone Filler hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about I am not sure what all that means, but it was a fun fight. Lets do it again soon!!!!! Oh and Props to CCP. The fight was nearly lag free. I did not even have to take my guns off auto-repeat.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.18 17:37:00 - [79] looks like jolly good fun :) ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:10:00 - [80] Edited by: Reapeat Offender on 18/08/2009 18:11:48 Originally by: Reprimander Originally by: Soft Alan Originally by: Cone Filler hmmmm so PL refused to start the engagement (again) is this to hide the fact that you are awfull at PvP? or is it because you had to set all thoose entitys blue again? also -a- & freinds 147 ppl goons & goons 256 ppl odds 1 : 1.75 yet -a- and friends killed 93 and goons only killed 68 hardly something you should post about Except when you remove every trace of your enemy from the field and begin looting 170 capital wrecks. Apart from that, sure. Yeah, wow... when they looted all those cap recharger II's and the odd seige mod, they might have enough ISK for 2 dreads! seriously, unless there is lots of phat office loot, the ISK value of looted mods is trivial 90 dreads killed, v's 70 dreads lost for AAA/AA - and they fielded far less numbers Lets say your average Dread drops about 200M in modules. Which is probably on the low side considering the capital weapons, reppers, and siege modules alone are worth around 250m(half of which drop) per ship. You are also going to have a fair amount of faction/officer modules that drop in addition to the T2 ones. You also have all the fighters and modules from the dead carriers. The side holding this field is looting at least 35B from it. That will replace more than a few dreads. ----------------------------------------------- Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. -DB Preacher
Beverly Sparks Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:19:00 - [81] Originally by: Reprimander Yeah, wow... when they looted all those cap recharger II's and the odd seige mod, they might have enough ISK for 2 dreads! By my calculations, the value of the wrecks from that fight would come to somewhere around 40 Billion. Those would be 2 pimped out dreads.
Jslice Amarr Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:20:00 - [82] None of the looting crap matters anyway, all that matters is that a fight was had, a nice big lag free fight. The amount of jewgold the alliances involved make means that its hardly a loss for some awesome pewpew anyway
Reprimander Caldari Failswarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:24:00 - [83] Originally by: Beverly Sparks Originally by: Reprimander Yeah, wow... when they looted all those cap recharger II's and the odd seige mod, they might have enough ISK for 2 dreads! By my calculations, the value of the wrecks from that fight would come to somewhere around 40 Billion. Those would be 2 pimped out dreads. Even if your ridiculously generous estimate was true, thats only 20 fitted dreads. Your side lost 20 more dreads. Not that this matters, the annoying with losing dreads isn't the ISK, it's the logistics of replacing and moving them which is very tiresome and dull
Snot Shot Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:27:00 - [84] LetÆs all put our purses down and let this be the ôgfö thread it was meant to beà.. The fact that goonies were kept out of this fight for the most partà..againà..is helping. Dr. Shot Just sayin.....
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:47:00 - [85] You're also only going to loot capital mods with haulers or carriers. 4000 m3 per siege module. So, yeah, your valuable loot is going to be faction armor hardeners, etc. Unless you happened to have an impel hanging around. --
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 18:57:00 - [86] Well actually we looted over 400k m3 of stuff and freightered it to empire this morning. Decent amount of fighters, cap mods and assorted t2/faction loot. But that's besides the point. It was an awesome fight and lets leave it at that. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:07:00 - [87] Originally by: Fred0 Well actually we looted over 400k m3 of stuff and freightered it to empire this morning. Decent amount of fighters, cap mods and assorted t2/faction loot. But that's besides the point. It was an awesome fight and lets leave it at that. Sweet; props for being prepared to reap the spoils. o/ --
Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:14:00 - [88] Edited by: Phreeze on 18/08/2009 19:16:19 damn combo breakers
titanstory Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:14:00 - [89] Originally by: Reprimander Originally by: Beverly Sparks Originally by: Reprimander Yeah, wow... when they looted all those cap recharger II's and the odd seige mod, they might have enough ISK for 2 dreads! By my calculations, the value of the wrecks from that fight would come to somewhere around 40 Billion. Those would be 2 pimped out dreads. Even if your ridiculously generous estimate was true, thats only 20 fitted dreads. Your side lost 20 more dreads. Not that this matters, the annoying with losing dreads isn't the ISK, it's the logistics of replacing and moving them which is very tiresome and dull well well well, so now STFU, allguys involved are happy for this capfleet, so ISK is useless here . Mkay you understand now you can go out and stop posting here. ty.
Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.18 19:14:00 - [90] Edited by: Phreeze on 18/08/2009 19:17:04 Alright, for the idiot forum trolls who are looking at the killboards and going "WOW OMG THEY OUTNUMBERED AAA/ATLAS 4-1 AND STILL LOST HORRIBLY", here is what really happened. There are probably some small errors in the details, and I'm sure my numbers on force strength of either side will vary, but overall this is an accurate account from the person actually FC'ing the fight. The Battle of J2-P OR How to wipeout the CEI dread hangar in an hour and a half. Like Babe Ruth calling his shot, myself and one of Atlas' FCs were having a conversation in local about a day before this fight. Quote: 2009.08.16 23:31:47 ] Shadowminion > Why did you just engage that large pos 2009.08.16 23:31:49 Shadowminion > with only 50 guys 2009.08.16 23:31:52 Shadowminion > and 20 dreads ?? 2009.08.16 23:31:56 Shadowminion > i don't understand 2009.08.16 23:32:16 TikTok > why not 2009.08.16 23:32:19 Shadowminion > was playing with fire tbh 2009.08.16 23:32:33 Shadowminion > :p 2009.08.16 23:32:52 Shadowminion > guess people are lazy speciall from our side lately 2009.08.16 23:32:53 Shadowminion > and aint botherd 2009.08.16 23:32:54 Shadowminion > :p 2009.08.16 23:33:08 TikTok > oh come now, you act as if you are relevant :p 2009.08.16 23:33:34 Shadowminion > you know wutt can happen in 10 minnuts 2009.08.16 23:33:38 Shadowminion > if everybodey reacts 2009.08.16 23:34:14 TikTok > we will see Fast forward to the next day. After skirmishing with PL hac fleets while killing towers in J2-P, it seemed that Atlas and AAA would not be interfering with our siege of the station. I called an impromtu op for 2300, to finish off the last remaining tower in that system. Curiously enough, Mr. Bobby O Atlas called an op for precisely the same time as the tower exiting reinforced. As the clock ticked closer towards the tower exit, our scouts reported 40-50 Atlas caps cynoing out of O-W to a perfect midpoint to hit J2-P. Additionally, an Atlas scout had been in J2-P for the last several hours. 2 and 2 were put together, and it was obvious: Atlas was going to drop us. After ringing the batphone to Scavok of Goonfleet, and Shadoo of PL, I swapped Razor from battleships into capitals. We would be the bait for this engagement, a **ty deal for our first wave to be sure, but necessary to spark the fight we wanted. 10 goon dreads joined our fleet, and 40-50 PL stayed logged off waiting for Atlas to drop. We cynoed to a safe spot, and aligned for the tower, giving PL and Goons a bit more time to set up. After warping, we sieged on the tower. It was at this point when this little snippet of jabber conversation occured: (7:46:13 PM) Shadoo: calling blueballs (7:47:49 PM) Phreeze: cyno (7:47:57 PM) Phreeze: we are hotdropped at 30kkm Unknown to us, AAA had also formed up a significant cap fleet, and an AAA hictor was the first to land on grid and open a cyno. As PL logged in, Goons cynoed in next to us, giving us 15 RZR dreads 5 carriers, 10 goon dreads, vs nearly 80 Atlas/AAA dreads and carriers. (7:48:06 PM) scavok: open cyno for us (7:48:25 PM) Phreeze: up (7:48:29 PM) scavok: tell me primaries (7:48:32 PM) mr_rive: numbers? (7:48:33 PM) mr_rive: a-z (7:48:36 PM) Phreeze: 90 (7:49:00 PM) scavok: 90 hostile caps? (7:52:20 PM) Phreeze: shadoo we are going to die The early going was brutal. By the time PL cynoed in, we were down to 4 RZR dreads. For the first wave, we would lose all RZR caps and kill 9 enemy dreads. (7:59:45 PM) mr_rive: theyre coming to us (7:59:47 PM) mr_rive: 50 off us (8:00:22 PM) Phreeze: all razor caps down Thinks were not well for Pandemic Legion either. Due to a **up on titan bridge range, PL hics and dics were not bridged in initially, and while PL engaged at snipe, the hostiles quickly repositioned on them at close range and began ripping through their sniper dreads. During this time, RZR capital pilots who had died at the fight were titan bridged back to Doril, and reshipped.

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