When I started with eve some years ago, eve was almost perfect, lot's of clear sky, an extremely helpful community, and this wild mix of things you could do according to your mood.
Going into low and 0.0 if you need some adrenalin to kick in, missions if you had to fill up an hour of free time, mining if you wanted to do something in the middle of something else.
It was this heritage from elite that got me. If I look at eve now, the picture becomes quite sad. Technically eve get's better and better. The visuals are still stunning, and a lot of the stuff that was annoying in the past have been dealt with. Than eve lost something important to me. Do you remember this video the butterfly effect? GǣA group of miners calling for help in local ...Gǥ. Well truth is, the miners would be probably ganked before they even finished typing, not mentioning flying there, locking the enemies GǪ 0.0 has become so small that you can not dream of getting a piece of that pie, unless you play but monkey for a big alliance. WH space is quite ok at the moment, but looking at the decisions before I am sure that they will find a way to nerve them too. The forums are filled with people as helpful as rattlesnakes and with about the same attitude or IQ, and if I check the posts in my alliance I see that they have been robbed the 3rd time now, by trusted long time members. The community degraded and it seems that the developers at CCP share their vision of death match unlimited. Not that death match unlimited has to be a bad game, but it will not be the game I dedicate a lot of my time, and I guess it would be WOT in this case for me.
From what I see future eve will be played only by full time eve professionals, gankers and masochists. Since none of that apply to me, guess I will let my subscription run out. I am sure eve will not die, and I applaud the CCP game designers that stick to their vision of the game to a point, that it even risks their jobs (or at least the jobs of some more colleagues).
So good luck to all who decide to stay. Go down fighting. Hope that I will find reason again to revisit eve.

Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. I believe it's firmly related to the degratation of internet 'culture' too - when I started playing MMOs a decade ago, most of the people I encountered were friendly, helpful and it really felt like the players were in a sense bonded with a common interest (the game we were playing).

Nowadays the majority of online gamers are just out there for themselves and their e-peen, with their priorities on getting the best loot and the most kills on a killboard regardless of the method, very much like the cheating FPS kiddies that ruin everyone else's game with their hacks just so they get a ridiculously high K/D ratio.

EVE attracts these kinds of people because they've heard that activities that are anathema to almost every other game are not only valid in EVE, but encouraged. This also drives out the people who find these activities tasteless and repulsive. So we're left with the sewer of the gaming public in EVE, okay there are still some decent people playing but they are becoming an endangered species.

The solution? No idea. I hope EVE lasts a long time, since it tends to keep a lot of the mouthbreathers out of other games.

The only people trying to "degrade the community" are the highsec miners who want to remove all risk from their EVE experience and who believe they are entitled to an endless series of buffs and nerfs because they can't fit a hulk properly.

The only people trying to "degrade the community" are the highsec miners who want to remove all risk from their EVE experience and who believe they are entitled to an endless series of buffs and nerfs because they can't fit a hulk properly.

So good luck to all who decide to stay. Go down fighting. Hope that I will find reason again to revisit eve.

Your avatar needs a chaplin.

Bull. Fitting a hulk properly doesn't help against determined gankers. You could completely outlaw ganking from high sec and not remove the risk from anybody's Eve experience. There is plenty of risk in Eve.

The only people trying to "degrade the community" are the highsec miners who want to remove all risk from their EVE experience and who believe they are entitled to an endless series of buffs and nerfs because they can't fit a hulk properly.

The only people trying to "degrade the community" are the highsec miners who want to remove all risk from their EVE experience and who believe they are entitled to an endless series of buffs and nerfs because they can't fit a hulk properly.

There are a few notables left, The Mitani is actually one of them. He has found the recipe for staying relevant: Harnessing the stupidity and short attention span of the lowest common denominator.

The perfect response that succinctly sums up the OP's point.

The Eve culture has degraded.

This used to be a game that prided itself on having the smartest, craftiest and dedicated players around.

It is now about the "lulz"...

It seems that many of the top tier players have left, leaving only the bottom feeders to populate the game and its forums.

There are a few notables left, The Mitani is actually one of them. He has found the recipe for staying relevant: Harnessing the stupidity and short attention span of the lowest common denominator.

I can't tell if this post is intended to defend the highsec miners or attack them...

When I started with eve some years ago, eve was almost perfect, lot's of clear sky, an extremely helpful community, and this wild mix of things you could do according to your mood.
Going into low and 0.0 if you need some adrenalin to kick in, missions if you had to fill up an hour of free time, mining if you wanted to do something in the middle of something else.
It was this heritage from elite that got me. If I look at eve now, the picture becomes quite sad. Technically eve get's better and better. The visuals are still stunning, and a lot of the stuff that was annoying in the past have been dealt with. Than eve lost something important to me. Do you remember this video the butterfly effect? GǣA group of miners calling for help in local ...Gǥ. Well truth is, the miners would be probably ganked before they even finished typing, not mentioning flying there, locking the enemies GǪ 0.0 has become so small that you can not dream of getting a piece of that pie, unless you play but monkey for a big alliance. WH space is quite ok at the moment, but looking at the decisions before I am sure that they will find a way to nerve them too. The forums are filled with people as helpful as rattlesnakes and with about the same attitude or IQ, and if I check the posts in my alliance I see that they have been robbed the 3rd time now, by trusted long time members. The community degraded and it seems that the developers at CCP share their vision of death match unlimited. Not that death match unlimited has to be a bad game, but it will not be the game I dedicate a lot of my time, and I guess it would be WOT in this case for me.
From what I see future eve will be played only by full time eve professionals, gankers and masochists. Since none of that apply to me, guess I will let my subscription run out. I am sure eve will not die, and I applaud the CCP game designers that stick to their vision of the game to a point, that it even risks their jobs (or at least the jobs of some more colleagues).
So good luck to all who decide to stay. Go down fighting. Hope that I will find reason again to revisit eve.

CCP game designers that stick to their vision of the game to a point, that it even risks their jobs (or at least the jobs of some more colleagues).

You guys could just post a roster instead of making us read the same, tired, one-liners. Posts like this OP attract the same mentally challenged every time. Proof of the challenged part? Read what they say post to post. Same thing every time. What's funny is, they don't remember they already said it. It's a new thought in their minds every time!

What they also fail to realize; we see them IRL every day. Ain't it funny how they all seem to look the same?

When I started with eve some years ago, eve was almost perfect, lot's of clear sky, an extremely helpful community, and this wild mix of things you could do according to your mood.
Going into low and 0.0 if you need some adrenalin to kick in, missions if you had to fill up an hour of free time, mining if you wanted to do something in the middle of something else.
It was this heritage from elite that got me. If I look at eve now, the picture becomes quite sad. Technically eve get's better and better. The visuals are still stunning, and a lot of the stuff that was annoying in the past have been dealt with. Than eve lost something important to me. Do you remember this video the butterfly effect? GǣA group of miners calling for help in local ...Gǥ. Well truth is, the miners would be probably ganked before they even finished typing, not mentioning flying there, locking the enemies GǪ 0.0 has become so small that you can not dream of getting a piece of that pie, unless you play but monkey for a big alliance. WH space is quite ok at the moment, but looking at the decisions before I am sure that they will find a way to nerve them too. The forums are filled with people as helpful as rattlesnakes and with about the same attitude or IQ, and if I check the posts in my alliance I see that they have been robbed the 3rd time now, by trusted long time members. The community degraded and it seems that the developers at CCP share their vision of death match unlimited. Not that death match unlimited has to be a bad game, but it will not be the game I dedicate a lot of my time, and I guess it would be WOT in this case for me.
From what I see future eve will be played only by full time eve professionals, gankers and masochists. Since none of that apply to me, guess I will let my subscription run out. I am sure eve will not die, and I applaud the CCP game designers that stick to their vision of the game to a point, that it even risks their jobs (or at least the jobs of some more colleagues).
So good luck to all who decide to stay. Go down fighting. Hope that I will find reason again to revisit eve.