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DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: DarthCaboose on 20/08/2009 18:46:09 This is crazy, the material and time efficiency research for rig BPOs are now much, much longer than before Apoc 1.5. Also, the manufacturing time has really been kicked up. While past "rigs" would have a manufacturing time of 10 minutes (at worst), small rigs now need 25 minutes!
Share your experiences on the new rig blueprint science and industry escapades in here!
EDIT: I've been thrown out into the queue again, but I've noticed that the large BPOs now have research requirements similar to the smaller end of ships, a.k.a a good day and a half per level. |

Letrange
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:49:00 -
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good thing all my large rig BPOs (and I have all of them) are researched to perfect already. |

Vasundhara
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange good thing all my large rig BPOs (and I have all of them) are researched to perfect already.
You've won EvE!!!  |

DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange good thing all my large rig BPOs (and I have all of them) are researched to perfect already.
Yup, no doubt the prices of BPCs of those well researched BPOs'll go up real soon...
I hope people realize that there's no need to research the small rigs to a Material Level of 250, heh. |

General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: General Newbold on 20/08/2009 19:08:13 well i got kicked off eve, for buying a salvage tackle bpo
i cant see these bpo's going up in prices tho
its probabally the end of rig profiting as everyone has a damn bpo
seriously - there was 9 in my system, i purchased 9
then another 999 turned up and eve crashed!
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Letrange
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:00:00 -
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I forget where the break point is but as I recall you need to have like a material count of 6 on a bpo before you need to resarch it at all. And even then ME:1 will bring it to perfect. |

Leveye
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:04:00 -
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Took 20 minutes per small rig to manufacture with 0 ME/PE research. |

DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange I forget where the break point is but as I recall you need to have like a material count of 6 on a bpo before you need to resarch it at all. And even then ME:1 will bring it to perfect.
That's right, hey that's a good thing to add here... |

DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leveye Took 20 minutes per small rig to manufacture with 0 ME/PE research.
That's with Industry to V, correct. The numbers I wrote up above were assuming no skills whatsoever... |

Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:12:00 -
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Isnt the rule of thumb 1/5 of the highest material quanity will give a perfect ME? |

Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:23:00 -
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1/5 the base before figuring in waste, I believe. That's what I've researched all my rig BPOs to anyway. It seems to work. From what I saw of the small rig requirements someone posted earlier, no ME research is going to be necessary as they were all 2-4 of each component. The most I remember seeing on a medium rig was 20, so ME 4 would be enough there. |

DarthCaboose
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries 1/5 the base before figuring in waste, I believe. That's what I've researched all my rig BPOs to anyway. It seems to work. From what I saw of the small rig requirements someone posted earlier, no ME research is going to be necessary as they were all 2-4 of each component. The most I remember seeing on a medium rig was 20, so ME 4 would be enough there.
Actually, I have seen a few small rig BPOs that need 6-7 pieces of salvage which does mean you can turn that into 5-6 pieces of salvage by doing ME to 1. That's quite the savings!
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A Ingus
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange good thing all my large rig BPOs (and I have all of them) are researched to perfect already.
This and
What I am about to say may have already been said many times. And yeah it's a great game.
But . . . a big thanks for the LARGE EGRESS PORT rigs I now have to do something with, or sell for a pitance on the market (big demand for those), and for all my wonderful new LARGE researched rig BPOs such as LARGE PURGER RIG BPO. I'm sure someone will squeeze them onto a Drake anyway because the damn things have the overpowered tanks and sig radii of a BSs already, right?   
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KarmaBoy
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: KarmaBoy on 21/08/2009 08:44:52
Originally by: DarthCaboose Edited by: DarthCaboose on 20/08/2009 19:22:28 Edited by: DarthCaboose on 20/08/2009 18:46:09 This is crazy, the material and time efficiency research for rig BPOs are now much, much longer than before Apoc 1.5. Also, the manufacturing time has really been kicked up. While past "rigs" would have a manufacturing time of 10 minutes (at worst), small rigs now need 25 minutes!
so, how to figure what lvl. of time efficiency research we need to speed up production at max?
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Clansworth
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: KarmaBoy Edited by: KarmaBoy on 21/08/2009 08:44:52
Originally by: DarthCaboose Edited by: DarthCaboose on 20/08/2009 19:22:28 Edited by: DarthCaboose on 20/08/2009 18:46:09 This is crazy, the material and time efficiency research for rig BPOs are now much, much longer than before Apoc 1.5. Also, the manufacturing time has really been kicked up. While past "rigs" would have a manufacturing time of 10 minutes (at worst), small rigs now need 25 minutes!
so, how to figure what lvl. of time efficiency research we need to speed up production at max?
theres no real max to PE... but as you go higher and higher, the amount of time that drops off gets less and less.. basically, it comes down to how many runs you think you are going to be doing, how much time it will take to add that next level, and if you are going to save that time off the production in the end...
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Arous Drephius
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: A Ingus a big thanks for the LARGE EGRESS PORT rigs I now have to do something with, or sell for a pitance on the market
Reprocess them.
Originally by: A Ingus I'm sure someone will squeeze them onto a Drake
You can't. That large purger bpo is pretty much useless.
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KarmaBoy
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
theres no real max to PE... but as you go higher and higher, the amount of time that drops off gets less and less.. basically, it comes down to how many runs you think you are going to be doing, how much time it will take to add that next level, and if you are going to save that time off the production in the end...
get it. like for ME, but still there is a point in ME where is meaningless to go further, guess there is a point for time efficiency too.
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