Originally by: Suas

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Originally by: CCP Atlas

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There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.

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Please tell me you are atleast working on a fix to replace this workaround.

Because this is pretty damn horrible.

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Originally by: Zeba

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Are you seriously suggesting you need to update your directional scanner moar than every two seconds to quickly scan someone down? If thats the case then you really need 2lrn2 direction scan.

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Originally by: Lord Makk

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Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/08/2009 22:04:20
Then let us make assumptions and theorize.


You have two belts ahead of you, they are so nicely placed that you pick them both up on 60 degree.

Then you change your scanner to 15 degree and scan one belt, now you have to wait 2 seconds to scan the other.

Those 2 seconds means everything between that crappy belters escape or your epic win of landing a point on him.

*edit* Imagine if you have several more to scan.

Be quiet if you have no clue on how this crapped the game up.

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Originally by: Daniel Borealis

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That's nice Zeba... perhaps you are scanning down stationary objects? Ships that are not warping around? Keeping tabs on a mission runner? Scanning belts while in warp?

Or perhaps you are doing all these things, albeit badly.

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Originally by: Lord Makk

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Perhaps a bad example.

In any case, what I am saying, the scanner is a constant used tool. Its THE most used tool ever, and its under constant clicking changing and yoinking, faster than the now 2 second delay will allow. Its rubbish and I feel completely disabled as I can only get a rubbish message, and nothing done.

Imagine this, I have to wait TWO full seconds for EVERYTHING I do, because the scanner tells me everything.

If one didnt rely on th scanner at all times before this **** hit the fan, one is fail.

Take scanning in warp for example, you wanna be REALLY fast before everything turns into a blob as your warping away.... No longer possible

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Originally by: Lord Makk

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The scanner has to be reverted.

Its limiting the player skill at its current state.

If someone says the 2 second delay is fine, then by god you can't scan for ****.

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Originally by: Xtreem

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i can live with the delay, but the info screen is ****ing me off

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Originally by: Lord Makk

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Originally by: Ephemeron

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ok, I hate being a spammer, but I just remembered something important from my own experience:

I live in 0.0 and often times I try to scan down farmers at asteroid belts. The best way to do that is to warp to a planet with many belts around it, reduce your directional scanner angle to 15 degrees, and start point-checking 1-20 belts as quickly as possible.

The time it takes to scan 1 belt and aim for the next belt with a scanner is just under a second. 1 second tops. 2 seconds definitely creates noticeable lag when trying to scan 10~ belts. This mostly benefits the defender - the farmer.

But aside from extra benefit to farmer, the main problem here is the high level of annoyance this would create for everyone scanning belts. I'd say, this sacrifice is definitely not worth it any slight server performance improvements.

Before I was making hypothetical arguments, now it is personal.

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Just as you say sir.

Also you can already begin scanning belts before you drop out of warp during deacceleration, things needs to happen fast, one can't begin to count how many times one has JUST managed to get a point, or JUST missed it by 0.1 seconds. The margins are ultra-small.

Those not annoyed/limited by this change, are simply not adequate in their scanning skills... no offense.

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Originally by: Eddie Gordo

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Originally by: Gypsio III

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Server lag means we've always had to wait ~1-2 seconds for scan results. So ****ing what?

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What game do you play? Directional scanner in a a sytem without too many pos/parked ships used to return in well under 0.5 seconds.

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Originally by: Lance Fighter

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Maybe instead of hitting belts at fifteen, youll hit 4 or 5 at 60, then narrow it down? assuming 24 belts (good case scenario)

belt group one (belts 1-4) no hit
belt group 2 (belts 5-8) no hit
belt group 3 (belts 9-12) hit
belt 9 no hit
belt 10 no hit
belt 11 hit

So basically, your cutting 24 belts down to 6, and then 3 scans at most (if its not at the first 3, its either at the 4th or gone. dont waste your time waiting for scan.. )
24 scans becomes 9 or 10.

Even if it isnt so fairytale, you still get my point.. yes?

note, I havent actually done this often enough in practice, but the practice i have had this agrees with, and in theory it would work.

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Originally by: Karasuma Akane

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]and exploits."

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Originally by: Van Steiza

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There Zeba another person.

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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa

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Originally by: Zeba

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Its like every poasting cliche on the forums has been drwan out of the woodwork for this one..

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Well I think you and I both know CCP will just wait for this thread to die and then we'll all be stuck with a new 'feature' that nobody wants.

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Originally by: Saturous

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Does someone have to swear or do something to break a rule in the forums for it to be read? Sorry but wtf is the point in a forum to discuss it if it's ignored, we could all sit here all day every day throwing our 2 cents in, some chief needs to step in...

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Originally by: The Cuckoo

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Worst of all. The threadnaught in the assembly hall has finally had a reply by CCP. Basically it tells everyone who is complaining about this ridiculous change to shut up, it reduces lags and they couldn't give a **** if we don't like it.

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