Pretty sure we took Lamaa a while back

We took Lamaa Pre-Inferno, but as I said above, we did take Raa under the new system.

We took Lamaa Pre-Inferno, but as I said above, we did take Raa under the new system.

Does Raa really count? It's a station-less system in the middle of nowhere.

After heated discussion with fellow Caldari, we decided to let you share in our lime light for taking a insignificant system that nobody really cares about. We however took Tama after all, a station system that is a hot bed for piracy and dirty shenanigans.

Tama > Raa


(btw don't mind me I'm polishing up on my null sec snobbery, being we are after all now in null sec lite)

...to capture a system under the new FW game mechanics.

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Tama used to be with-in the 4 or 5 jump radius, Gal Militia was willing to travel to get a fight, but seems it was just a bit too far out of their safety net last night.

I just came into this thread to gloat about shooting a structure. Am I doing it right?

Or it could have been more to do with the time of day the bunker went vulnerable

As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)

Well we had fun defending kedama this afternoon since it went vulnerable when some of us were actually online lol.

I hear there are nice vacation POS's for sale in Iwisoda. Caldari still only at +1. (Nice job on Ked btw)

As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.
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We get fights orbiting buttons, I dont know why people keep saying that. I even had someone drop in on my test fit last night.

*shakesfist at cat casidy*


Really if you keep taking the mindset orbiting buttons is orbiting buttons, by all means do it.

You will be locked out of most systems in a month or so I predict.

I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.

...to capture a system under the new FW game mechanics. The system was Tama no less, a well known system throughout all of EVE as a popular hot spot for pirate types and for people whom want to blow up internet space ships.

Cheers to all those that plexed it and the ones whom showed up to shoot down the bunker, which gave about as much resistance as the Galentte Militia did. The resistance being pretty much null & void. (ie they didn't show)

Tama used to be with-in the 4 or 5 jump radius, Gal Militia was willing to travel to get a fight, but seems it was just a bit too far out of their safety net last night.

Youtube video of the fight for Tama..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVdrtLcRs&ob=av3e

Bolster, you don't understand what I'm saying. There are two distinct types of Caldari at this point. Those that PVP and those that farm LP. If it's State Pro people, I've bum rushed plexes with 1:3 to 1:5 odds against me, and they run. If you sit in the plex, they go one system over and start a plex there. If you follow them, they run to another plex somewhere else. On the other hand, then there are Caldari that will fight for every plex. I get 90% of my fights in plexes, I actually love it. When I talk about sitting on a button, I'm referring to the LP farmers. If we can break their morale and get them to farm isk elsewhere, then things will turn around for the Gallente. The PVP Caldari are hardcore and their morale won't break.

I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.

We get fights orbiting buttons, I dont know why people keep saying that. I even had someone drop in on my test fit last night.

*shakesfist at cat casidy*


Really if you keep taking the mindset orbiting buttons is orbiting buttons, by all means do it.

You will be locked out of most systems in a month or so I predict.

This is because you guys live all hurdled up with-in 3 to 4 systems of each other and never leave a radius of 5 jumps away from those home systems. You guys have the numbers & the ability to spread out and combat Caldari but instead you guys hide in your blobs, scared of what might happen if you had to fight close to even numbers in small gang combat.

Caldari these days all live somewhat close to one another or at least in groups here and there but the difference is we are willing to leave our home systems and go out to hunt / hit your systems out side your blob zone where you guys can't fly with out boosters & easy reships.

Sorry bro, I led the fleet that captured Raa last week on Thursday, I think it was. But, congrats on taking Tama.

Good Work Caldari.. Another TWO station systems captured while I was at work.. Hallanen & Aivonen are now back in the hands of Caldari State.


Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..

Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..

They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning

We shouldn't really brag about that, wasn't us that did it. Well, we made good bait I suppose.

Hopefully one day Cal Mil can fight on that scale. Until then, I suppose it's that or get clobbered. I'm really not a fan of the whole hotdrop thing, and I'd dearly love to see jumpdrives removed from the game, they're such a deterrent to engagements. But when it's an ad-hoc anything fleet vs a BS/logi fleet, or 2 triage carriers vs 2 carriers and 5 dreads, welp.

Good Work Caldari.. Another TWO station systems captured while I was at work.. Hallanen & Aivonen are now back in the hands of Caldari State.


Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..

They also lost capital fleet in Hallanen this morning

Lockout you woud'nt know how to plex fight if a condor hit you in your face. Its only a matter of time before you get kicked out of your space.

My only complain is that I was asleep during all of this

I dont think orbiting a button and then leaving when some enemy arrives is such a hard concept to understand lol.

Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)

Now there are consequences in FW, or more specifically, consequences for PvE in FW. Doesnt bother me anyway, there is another trick up our sleeves that will present quite a humorous solution to this if CCP cant figure out how to make plexing a PvP activity. :)

I do not know many of the Cal pilots that simple leave a button when someone comes in, unless they are purely at the task for isk (same as missioning) however the majority of the pilots I know will stay and fight.

The same claim that people are "orbiting" buttons and running can be made against the Gals. However, knowing what I do know it is the new FDU members (same as our pilots) that due this. Not the normal Cal players.

Heck Ill fight something even if its a remote chance of winning just to fight (my downfall) even if my intent was to make isk not fight.....

Due to this fact I have a big sticky on my computer screen that says "remember to switch out javs before engaging at close range"

*facepalm*

You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.

You mean "Alone in your thrasher and loki links in safe spot"? Tell me, why would anyone take "1vs1" if he knows other guy has links?

I dont boost solo smart guy, never have and never will. If I am in a fleet with boosts its not ALONE is it? You must have me confused with someone who is fail at pvp m8

Besides how would you know anyways, mr bomb knows only me and him are in system when he runs.

I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.

What? lol I dont see you alone very often in a ship I can fight you in. A cynabol or drake against a thrasher isnt a fight.

The times I can remotely take a fight I do, even if I know I probably will lose.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935922


(this was the most painful) in which you used a neutral cloak to get a warp in (solo again...right?...)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12935996


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13275611 (solo again, right?) <----- caught me on a gate with those insta lockers


You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.

You sir are full of Poo.

I fight anything that provides a remote chance of a win. My kill board reflects that. I dont run unless its just dumb. And most times when you see nexx a fleet is following. Its not rocket science.

I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.

So you will be using the inherent bugs in the system, something you were so appalled I dared to do to show what your side was already doing? And yet you were quick to boast about chasing all cals back to high-sec and living off the fat of the land with impunity. Wasnt this system something you yourself praised because it would complete the downfall of Cal militia and were looking forward to spinning buttons for?

But now that our mission runners are actually doing something which helps us in general and forces you to boring activity is somehow wrong because it seems to give us a slight edge. Not that you cannot already cap all sized Caldari plexes in vanilla t1 frigate anyway so your argument about npc inbalance is completely irrelevant*.

Villore sounds nice this time of year, right? Then again, it's not like you will lose Nisuwa unless someting drastic happens since we would be fighting against gallente, minmatar and amarr miltiia if we make any headway since wbr promised hot-drop-a-clock if we make it vulnerable (One of the reasons i've refused all requests from my Amarr friends to come assist them).

*Though most of the time those vanilla t1 frigates simply run away.

Allrighty think what you want, so many excuses from bad pvp ers in this game its get old quick. But just a note on the tornado, its called a tactical safe. Anytime I move to an area I make dozens of safes off gates within several jumps. So when a nitwit like yourself sits in one spot without moving. Makes it fairly easy when I am able to warp to one 20km from you yeah?

Pro tip; When you warp to a safe 150km from the gate @100 its puts you 50 off the gate...must be a nuetral alt, amirite?

right a spot that is not aligned to a gate or a celsitis, but maybe your right gate camping with a booster in system with two insta locking thrashers is pro...you must have all the tacts within a 3 system circuit lined up for your pro tip pvp guide.

Just like Cal Stanson Im assuming. pro pvper because his killboard shows tons of kills......wait maybe I should go equip a target painter from now on.....

thread derailed from another "imsoawesomepvperwhichhasneutrualboostsnakesetandjesusblobaroundthecorner gallente" *sarcasm*

Will the squid farmers wear down the frogs who want to PVP or can the frogs hold most of their systems long enough to find a better solution?

TBH only a few very dumb gallente thought we could hold off the influx of caldari bears.

so Bad Messenger is back in FW in one form or another.

That would be me. I severely underestimated the power of Caldari farming alts. They're hitting 16k VP/day which is ridiculously high - that's 60k VP/day under the old system.

BTW, I saw Don (Harbinger of Doom) Goldspoon as one of the leaders in FW plexing VP, so Bad Messenger is back in FW in one form or another.

I went to a minor plex last night in nenna, im pretty sure chatgris told the blob in local to stay the **** away from plex so he could get a nice 1v1

Actually, I just warped to the plex quietly :)

Don't forget we all have boosts, hg snakes and dev hacks so its never ever fair.

I'm really surprised to see this many systems fall already. It's starting to become obvious that two things are at play here;

a) Gallente probably don't like defensive plexing
b) Gallente don't like offensive plexing either.

With the fleets and personnel they have, I would think it become obvious to plex the hell out of those systems near Akidagi but they never took the time to do so. I think if you ask the Gallente to form large fleets (or blobs), they can do so. But given the new plexing mechanics and how it encourages small gangs tactics, this will not spell good things for the federation. I wouldn't be surprised if morale starts to decline soon.

However, I don't think the OP should be bragging too much either because it's not like his corp or much of CalMil are expert combat pilots when you look at the KBs. It's just that they are fortunate enough to leverage the large swath of farmers to their advantage with the new plexing mechanics that encourages nothing but farming.

Galentte were all about the new Sov system and changes when it looked like they would be the easy victors due to it likely favoring blob warfare giving them the upper hand. However now that it's changed it's now time for excuses and whines that it's unfair.

... just expect to undock to get easy PVP with out having to look or work for it ...

The Caldari have done very well plexing and taking systems. Nice coordination. They're taking the system that's currently in place and making the most out of it and it seems like they're having fun doing so, so good for them.

I don't think this is true. If you look at my posts pre-patch, I was fervently against the station lockouts before the patch, and I am now neutral on them due to the great pvp I've had in plexes. I don't even known if we'll hold basing systems long term, but if we lose things it's not a huge deal to just up a few JF's and carriers and move to adjacent lowsec, just seems kind of a shame to leave the center of the fw warzone to be in fw.



This is EXACTLY why I am in FW and not nullsec. Pre-Inferno, I had to roam 20-30 jumps or go to Minmatar space to get a fight, things were dead on the Cal/Gal front in my timezone. Post-Inferno, I never have to go more than a few jumps (and consequently, don't have to wait long) to get a fight.

Yea & who knows what will happen in the next few weeks. Perhaps more systems will fall to Caldari or maybe Gals will start fighting back.

Personally I figure the new Sov system will kinda balance out in the fact that once you take too much space you can no longer hold it because you can't get enough guys to defend it. IMO it's easier to attack than to defend and I'm sure that's "part" of problem Gals are having now. (Amarr should be taking note TBH)

I'm sure if Caldari manage to go on mad system capture spree, it will be hard to hold a lot of systems over time and station-less systems & un-important station system will likely flip flop around quite a bit.

Overall I just figured it was time us Caldari had a poke at Gals with our own trololol thread being we have been at the butt end of so many lately. Time we get to be smug back for a bit.

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Haha. Well you won't see me actively plexing anytime soon.

It's not that bad to be honest.. I rarely do any offensive plexing, because if I'm roaming/hunting, I don't want to sit in same place. However it's easy enough to run down a defensive timer close to my home while I'm semi afk.

Took you long enough but we figured it was not worth trying to hold into it due to it's sub-optimal position and lack of station.

Besides, I had a theory that SLAPD might not want to even take it but keep it continuously "on the brink" since with new mechanics it's pretty much in a prime spot for LP farming. I mean, that's pretty much what I would do with Vifrevaert if I still lived in Ladistier.

Do you not think that we don't see the same thing with Gal Incursus alts running plexes all over not bothering to kill NPC's and running at first sight of someone entering their plexes? Most of the time they have already warped away prior to entering the plex.

Please don't act as if this farming of plexes is somehow unique to Caldari, because that is far from reality. I don't blame them though as that issues could have easily been solved by making killing all the NPC's required for completing the plex.

You sir are a liar and are completely full of poo.

You RUN from me every time I enter a plex and you are alone...every single time. Both in thrashers, bolster runs, both in t1 frigs bolster runs, hell i have feeling if i warped my pod onto your plex gate...bolster would run.

RUN BOLSTER RUN!

Another system you didnt want. My my, these silly Caldari being outsmarted by you all by moving into these systems you didnt want anyway. When will you spring your trap and institute the master plan???

Uhmm, that might be because you are never alone? Being bait doesn't qualify as being alone.

Another system you didnt want. My my, these silly Caldari being outsmarted by you all by moving into these systems you didnt want anyway. When will you spring your trap and institute the master plan???

Uhmm, that might be because you are never alone? Being bait doesn't qualify as being alone.

right a spot that is not aligned to a gate or a celsitis, but maybe your right gate camping with a booster in system with two insta locking thrashers is pro...you must have all the tacts within a 3 system circuit lined up for your pro tip pvp guide.