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Grimfang Wyrmspawn
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:56:00 -
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Seems to be a lot of Minnie Dramiel speed wankers..... sorry, tankers about. I've seen them flee when an Executioner enters their plex.... |
Bengal Bob
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
42
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:08:00 -
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Alli Othman wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:All very valid observations were it but for one little thing: It is all based on things starting on relatively equal footing.
Alas, the Shakorites abused CCPs inability to see things through and managed to acquire their ~85% dominance while systems needed sod all time spent to flip.
Had the recent changes been implemented following a reset (or last winter), NPCs been balanced and had changes made sense (ex. missions only going to hostile space), then by the time the wheel turned and Amarr once again had numbers available the Shakorites would have had at most ~5 systems not originally theirs .. said five would have been reclaimed in a jiffy and a roughly equal number taken from their "pool" .. at which point the wheel would have turned again ..
That has been the ebb and flow of the Amarr/Shakorite front since time immemorial .. a proper tug-of-war .. destroyed by CCP's appalling ignorance/stupidity/ineptitude/inebriation. What might have been :awesome: has become a big "Thumbs Up" to buggy/lazy coding/design and the people who choose to abuse it.
Not bitter, just pissed. This whining is why fweddit doesn't really care about the other amarr. Spend less time crying and forum warrioring, and spend more time going out and having fun.
He isn't in FW anymore. Things got tough, and PIE left. RP is easier than PVP |
Bengal Bob
Angry Mustellid
Iron Oxide.
42
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:17:00 -
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From what I am seeing, the minmatar have around 20 active pilots on a regular basis (nightly/daily) We then have maybe another 20 over excited new guys joining because Minnie FW is the flavour of the month. We then have god knows how many missioners whoring away like mad.
On busy, preplanned ops that people consider important we can maybe scrape 50-60 effective people together.
These numbers are roughly similar to the Amarr. Probably the biggest 2 differences are:
FC's - We have some outstanding and hardworking guys and girls running fleets.
For whatever reason, the minmatar have always liked smaller ships and gangs and so consequently are spread out and active all over the place instead of waiting in a single system for a fleet to start.
The Amarr are in the best possible place at the moment, plentiful LP through plexing. Tons of targets, spread out all over the place, also giving LP. And loads of over confident Minmatar running into fights expecting to win, just because they are Minmatar.
Can't understand Amarr whining, you guys should be SO excited right now.
Only thing that is bad for you guys is the LP store, which everyone agrees overly penalises the losing side. But you have Minmatar alts yes?  |
Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
186
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Posted - 2012.06.01 15:07:00 -
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Bengal Bob wrote:From what I am seeing, the minmatar have around 20 active pilots on a regular basis (nightly/daily) We then have maybe another 20 over excited new guys joining because Minnie FW is the flavour of the month. We then have god knows how many missioners whoring away like mad. On busy, preplanned ops that people consider important we can maybe scrape 50-60 effective people together. These numbers are roughly similar to the Amarr. Probably the biggest 2 differences are: FC's - We have some outstanding and hardworking guys and girls running fleets. For whatever reason, the minmatar have always liked smaller ships and gangs and so consequently are spread out and active all over the place instead of waiting in a single system for a fleet to start. The Amarr are in the best possible place at the moment, plentiful LP through plexing. Tons of targets, spread out all over the place, also giving LP. And loads of over confident Minmatar running into fights expecting to win, just because they are Minmatar. Can't understand Amarr whining, you guys should be SO excited right now. Only thing that is bad for you guys is the LP store, which everyone agrees overly penalises the losing side. But you have Minmatar alts yes?
Wasn't there for it, but was told you had 90 there to defned the POS in Oyo that came out of reinforced a few days back... Bit more than 50-60!!!
Will the new FW be any good??? |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
297
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Posted - 2012.06.01 16:57:00 -
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Har Harrison wrote:Bengal Bob wrote:From what I am seeing, the minmatar have around 20 active pilots on a regular basis (nightly/daily) We then have maybe another 20 over excited new guys joining because Minnie FW is the flavour of the month. We then have god knows how many missioners whoring away like mad. On busy, preplanned ops that people consider important we can maybe scrape 50-60 effective people together. These numbers are roughly similar to the Amarr. Probably the biggest 2 differences are: FC's - We have some outstanding and hardworking guys and girls running fleets. For whatever reason, the minmatar have always liked smaller ships and gangs and so consequently are spread out and active all over the place instead of waiting in a single system for a fleet to start. The Amarr are in the best possible place at the moment, plentiful LP through plexing. Tons of targets, spread out all over the place, also giving LP. And loads of over confident Minmatar running into fights expecting to win, just because they are Minmatar. Can't understand Amarr whining, you guys should be SO excited right now. Only thing that is bad for you guys is the LP store, which everyone agrees overly penalises the losing side. But you have Minmatar alts yes? Wasn't there for it, but was told you had 90 there to defned the POS in Oyo that came out of reinforced a few days back... Bit more than 50-60!!!
Well, don't give us Timers that we can set our alarm clocks to. :P Besides, we saw that you guys had SOTF and AAA on stand-by. If Raiden. hadn't fought you guys in Kamela, it would have easily been an even fight in terms of #s, and you'd have probably killed the POS since AAA had brought Thundercats and would have slowly eaten our BS alive.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Jones Bones
Imperial Outlaws
73
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Posted - 2012.06.01 17:21:00 -
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Bengal Bob wrote:
FC's - We have some outstanding and hardworking guys and girls running fleets.
lolwut
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Alonzo Odantis
Talusian Trade Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:50:00 -
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LooknSee wrote:Alonzo Odantis wrote:While a cute quote, it's 100% false. While a cute reply, it's 100% false. See what I did there???
Yes, you made a false statement. Everyone can see that.
If someone said "Michael Jordan, the famous basketball player, was only 4'3"" would you need a long winded explanation of why that's false?
I don't need to explain such obvious falsities to those with any measure of intellect. Those without that level of intellect won't understand the explanation anyway, so it would be a fruitless effort on my part. |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
98
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Posted - 2012.06.01 19:59:00 -
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The problem isn't the fighting, and there really isn't a problem for us who own numerous alt accounts... but for the general Amarr FW player there is a massive problem, they're getting out-funded by the opposing side to a ridiculous degree, since they're not getting anything of value from all that LP.
Put it a different way, with the current minmatar fw lp store prices we have people, who on alts, are earning ~2.5b a day running missions. Why all of you aren't doing until the market crashes I don't know...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Qrwa2.png[/img] |
Ashriban Kador
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
2
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Posted - 2012.06.02 00:00:00 -
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Never underestimate the bravery of a man with his back against the wall.
Lamaa is only the first...
Amarr Victor!
Your goals may align with some ... and with others, collide with the force of suns. |
space chikun
Fweddit
2
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Posted - 2012.06.02 00:10:00 -
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Ashriban Kador wrote:Never underestimate the bravery of a man with his back against the wall.
Lamaa is only the first...
Amarr Victor!
For the chikunz! |
GenesisMike
Wolfsbrigade
Lost Obsession
25
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Posted - 2012.06.02 00:12:00 -
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I am enjoying the amount of fights available atm. No complaints here.
That and Zeerover is my hero so...
Mike |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
165
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Posted - 2012.06.02 00:14:00 -
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GÖÑ Fweddit
Thanks everyone that showed up to the fight look forward to seeing you in the next fleet.
For Les Grossman |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
1
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Posted - 2012.06.02 07:25:00 -
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GenesisMike wrote:I am enjoying the amount of fights available atm. No complaints here.
Mike
This really.
There's so many fights to be had these days, no more station camping (LOLTMFED still so bitter) and best of all, there's actually fights in all sizes. I'm having solo fights, small skirmishes, medium sized gangs roaming plexes in quieter systems and of course proper fights like last night in Lamaa with well over 100 people in system.
Congrats on taking back Lamaa there. It was so close, if we would've hit that last med plex 1 minute earlier we could've kept the system contested.
There's a load of new people on the amarr side who seem to be active and highly motivated so i sense hard times for us Minnies coming up. Which is neat because there's gonna be even more stuff to shoot.
Now let's hope Fweddit learn to fit properly, stop naming their ships "tackle1", "longrange15" or "closerange brawler7" and work on their local spam qualitites ("******* NERDS!", seriously? What's that even supposed to mean?).
Get used to the new FW, into a ship and come fight. 
pew pew |
Alli Othman
Fweddit
26
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Posted - 2012.06.02 11:08:00 -
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Zen Guerrilla wrote:Now let's hope Fweddit learn to fit properly, stop naming their ships "tackle1", "longrange15" or "closerange brawler7" and work on their local spam qualitites ("******* NERDS!", seriously? What's that even supposed to mean?). Get used to the new FW, into a ship and come fight.
All of our ships are now named exactly like this. And still fit the same.
Suck on that, nerds. |
Veesil
Le Moulin Rouge
0
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Posted - 2012.06.02 14:12:00 -
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I love the positive energy that's showing up in this thread! Even with an NPC imbalance and a huge disparity in the rewards, there are clearly still good fights to be had. And, to be fair, even the meager Amarr rewards are better than the nothing a non-aligned corp would get for the same fights. That there's some evidence of a balance in activity level between the Amarr and the Minmatar certainly helps.
I still think it's an uphill battle for the Amarr but, as long as that doesn't bother Amarrian militia members, I'm sure we'll see them putting in the effort that's required to win the sovereignty battle just as they did in Lamaa. A good attitude really does count for a lot. Maybe that's the biggest balance issue, and one that's being addressed by the players themselves.
It's still probably worthwhile to post in the FW NPC balance thread...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107393 |
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.06.02 22:10:00 -
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Veesil wrote:I love the positive energy that's showing up in this thread! Even with an NPC imbalance and a huge disparity in the rewards, there are clearly still good fights to be had. And, to be fair, even the meager Amarr rewards are better than the nothing a non-aligned corp would get for the same fights. That there's some evidence of a balance in activity level between the Amarr and the Minmatar certainly helps.
I still think it's an uphill battle for the Amarr but, as long as that doesn't bother Amarrian militia members, I'm sure we'll see them putting in the effort that's required to win the sovereignty battle just as they did in Lamaa. A good attitude really does count for a lot. Maybe that's the biggest balance issue, and one that's being addressed by the players themselves.
So what you're saying is that this is a glorified support group thread for FW-types with low self-esteem? Interesting.
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Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
297
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Posted - 2012.06.02 22:17:00 -
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Hello everyone, my name is Vordak.
Hello Vordak.
Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
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