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Ymirus Minmatar Pineal Squeegee	Posted - 2009.08.23 23:30:00 - [1] So I finally got my retriever airborne with some strips and T1 drones to start me off. Now I'm wondering, what to mine! I read somewhere that Omber has the best ISK/m¦ ratio, a few days later I read it's the worst ISK/m¦. I know, the market is constantly shifting, but still. What is a good thing to mine at the moment in high-sec? I know I could probably calculate it myself through the tables in the miner's guide, but some opinions from other miners can never hurt really
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.08.23 23:51:00 - [2] Originally by: Ymirus I read somewhere that Omber has the best ISK/m¦ ratio Halada's mining guide is a bit out of date in terms of "whats best." Note that he does say 'at the time of this guide's release" Veldspar is generally considered the best to mine in high sec. This is due to its large yield of tritanium and the constant demand for tritanium in almost all areas of production. I suggest making your own tables though and deciding for yourself. There are calculators already out there as well.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.08.24 00:02:00 - [3] Download Miner Timer and it can figure this out for you based on current mineral prices. It also keeps you from wasting time and makes your mining more efficient.
Jobie Thickburger Gallente Condottieri Industries	Posted - 2009.08.24 00:08:00 - [4] Or, you can just do what I do and mine everything :) You'll be surprised how fast you can strip an entire belt and how much you get out of it in minerals. Executor, The Economy
Ymirus Minmatar Pineal Squeegee	Posted - 2009.08.24 00:12:00 - [5] Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Or, you can just do what I do and mine everything :) You'll be surprised how fast you can strip an entire belt and how much you get out of it in minerals. This is actually what I'm doing at the moment. The belts around my current home carry plagio, scordite and veldspar so I tend to mine it all, also handy for when I need to make ammo and the likes. Thank you all for the answers, I actually had a nagging feeling that Veldspar was quite good due to the high level of tritanium you get per m¦ but it didn't feel right to me, the simplest ore selling for the most Thanks for all the great suggestions, I'll definately take a look at minertimer too!
Jumanat	Posted - 2009.08.24 00:55:00 - [6] This holds true even with the recent price depression of tritanium?
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.08.24 02:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Jumanat This holds true even with the recent price depression of tritanium? I doubt it. Pyrite is skyrocketing at the moment...my guess is because since everyone is mining veldspar the market is getting saturated, so prices fall. However, people shy away from the ores that give Pyrite, hence the changes. Right now I'm considering going back to mining myself.
Ishikaria	Posted - 2009.08.24 04:32:00 - [8] grab everything you can mine. worst case is you sit on a stockpile of whatever mineral is selling real low, everything goes through low and high cycles so the price for that particular mineral will go up eventually.
Jaden Stark	Posted - 2009.08.24 04:47:00 - [9] Kernite isn't terrible if you can find a system with it.
Elrinarie Gallente Northern Lights Industries	Posted - 2009.08.24 05:20:00 - [10] I created a mineral calculator that covers what is the best ore to mine. You have to manually enter in the prices of minerals for your region, but after you do that the profit calculator will quickly list all ores in order of profit per minute Linkage --------------------- Creator of another Mining Calculator

Borun Tal Minmatar Virtual Rock Industries	Posted - 2009.08.24 06:17:00 - [11] Edited by: Borun Tal on 24/08/2009 06:21:54 1) Check market and compare your yields or ore vs refined minerals against your market. Decide what's best for you. 2) Train the skills to get best refining yields (if you choose to refine) 3) Get standings up to get the least taxes out of each refining run 4) As long as it doesn't impact your batch yields, see what you can do to increase your yield (ie, MLU). I don't use MLU's because I want the raw cargo load, and I reprocess in stations where their take is 0%. 5) Go with the better quality ores: 10%, then 5%, then normals... If you really like the Retriever, look into ships that'll give you a better yield for same time. For example, I like using a Brutix because for the same time I get a larger yield. Experiment, and don't take what anyone says as gospel. Especially those that immediately yell "Orca!" or "Hulk!" Play your own game, and not other's game.
Space Piggy	Posted - 2009.08.24 06:48:00 - [12] Mine the most profitable ore, of course. Today, in hisec, this is plagioclase. But tomorrow, it may be veldspar. To know what to mine, I use this website : Cerlestes webpage Thanks for the good work Cerlestes.
ingenting 20th Legion Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2009.08.24 07:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Ymirus Now I'm wondering, what to mine! why dont you get your head out of your ass and find it out yourself? that way we dont have to answer 5 threads/week about it _________________ Originally by: CCP Pann I think we've explored every option just shy of sending out ninja squads with bazookas. http://20thlegion.net
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice	Posted - 2009.08.24 07:47:00 - [14] Plain Omber and Kernite sell really well to mission runners who need them for storylines, sometimes much higher than anything else in highsec. Just gotta be in the right place for that *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Cerlestes Caldari Veldspar Trading Company.	Posted - 2009.08.24 08:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Space Piggy Thanks for the good work Cerlestes. I love you too
Ymirus Minmatar Pineal Squeegee	Posted - 2009.08.24 11:23:00 - [16] Originally by: ingenting Originally by: Ymirus Now I'm wondering, what to mine! why dont you get your head out of your ass and find it out yourself? that way we dont have to answer 5 threads/week about it If it's such a pain to answer this thread, then don't :) Now you wasted both your time and mine with this senseless bile.
Billia Little Fuzzy Creatures of Mayhem and Destruction Emergence.	Posted - 2009.08.24 19:48:00 - [17] There are sites with mineral tables, just at the top of the tables put the price of each mineral at the top and it will tell u how much u make per m^3. As of 3 days ago, plagiclase made the most isk, followed by scordite then veldispar. pyroxers makes the least and actually kernite is even with plag. This changes all the time, but because of the huge increase in the price of mex, and the decrease in trit. plag has shot up.
Block Ukx Forge Laboratories	Posted - 2009.08.24 21:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Ymirus What is a good thing to mine at the moment in high-sec? BSAC has the answer: Ore Income Simply click the Ore Income tab in the exchange BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk
Ukucia Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.08.24 21:59:00 - [19] Originally by: Billia There are sites with mineral tables, just at the top of the tables put the price of each mineral at the top and it will tell u how much u make per m^3. As of 3 days ago, plagiclase made the most isk, followed by scordite then veldispar. pyroxers makes the least and actually kernite is even with plag. This changes all the time, but because of the huge increase in the price of mex, and the decrease in trit. plag has shot up. It should also be pointed out that where you plan to sell the minerals also has a large effect on "what's best". Prices are different in Jita than they are in Ours, just as an example.
Leonard Cage Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.08.25 00:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Borun Tal If you really like the Retriever, look into ships that'll give you a better yield for same time. For example, I like using a Brutix because for the same time I get a larger yield. Experiment, and don't take what anyone says as gospel. Especially those that immediately yell "Orca!" or "Hulk!" Play your own game, and not other's game. AGREED!!! And use the expanded cargohold II Miner,combat pilot VST commander.

Celia Therone	Posted - 2009.08.25 02:56:00 - [21] Edited by: Celia Therone on 25/08/2009 02:58:47 Originally by: Ymirus So I finally got my retriever airborne with some strips and T1 drones to start me off. Now I'm wondering, what to mine! I read somewhere that Omber has the best ISK/m¦ ratio, a few days later I read it's the worst ISK/m¦. I know, the market is constantly shifting, but still. What is a good thing to mine at the moment in high-sec? The thing is that both statements can, rather unintuitively, be true. If you go by the value of what you can refine the ore into then Omber is pretty poor (although I believe that Jaspet is actually the worst at the moment.) However raw Omber is needed for the level 3 storyline Materials for War Preparation which gives a +3 implant as its reward. Thus people are generally willing to pay a decent sum for the omber necessary to complete the mission as they'll still make a tidy profit reselling the implant for very little time investment. In regions which don't naturally spawn Omber, in a station with a storyline agent near a level 3 hub, you can sell raw Omber for more than you'd get mining any of the high sec ores for refining. However, this obviously is dependent on market conditions and there isn't a huge demand in my experience so you'll have to be willing to leave your ore up for quite a while. Also, of course, you'll have to track down the Omber to mine but that isn't really too hard. I'm not really recommending that you make a career from Omber mining, just explaining where the price disparity comes from. The mining charts that you see deal with refined value of the ore so tend to undervalue raw omber and raw kernite. Personally, I quite like mining kernite at the moment as it's close to the top in terms of refined value/m3 and it's used in the level 4 MfWP storyline so its value is unlikely to completely tank.
Michael Caldar DangerZone Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.25 12:07:00 - [22] Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Or, you can just do what I do and mine everything :) You'll be surprised how fast you can strip an entire belt and how much you get out of it in minerals. Very good point completely ignored by minig guides/calculators - a properly skilled/fitted Hulk should deliver at least 1500m3 a minute even without gang/orca etc bonuses. Every minute spent re-targetting, moving to the next "best ore of the moment" you're not mining at 1500m3/minute... They are called "Strip Miners" for a reason...
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.08.25 19:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Michael Caldar Originally by: Jobie Thickburger Or, you can just do what I do and mine everything :) You'll be surprised how fast you can strip an entire belt and how much you get out of it in minerals. Very good point completely ignored by minig guides/calculators - a properly skilled/fitted Hulk should deliver at least 1500m3 a minute even without gang/orca etc bonuses. Every minute spent re-targetting, moving to the next "best ore of the moment" you're not mining at 1500m3/minute... They are called "Strip Miners" for a reason... T2 Crystals FTL? Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success


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