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Minmatar Citizen 121123433
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:08:00 -
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OK, I got to say this debate is pretty getting pretty old. This thread is an attempt to ask a simple question.
Ok, yea, most mining is a simi AFK sort of thing. I even do it that way. Set back set the miner to go, while paging between a few different clients. I never do it when IGÇÖm PVPGÇÖing, but will usually be running toons running haulers, and such. I do market stuff too. Actually I do this mostly, my main source of income within the game.
I do PVP, havenGÇÖt been much of a ganker, not really interested in it honestly. I truly do believe the people that do this, are simply into ruining other peoples day period. I donGÇÖt think there is a mean one in the bunch, in the real world. I actually think quit the opposite.
I honestly believe most of these raging people, determined to preserve there rights to ruin your day are simply un happy people, lashing out the only way they know how, or the only way they can. Life probably sucks for them, so they feel the need to be mean in Eve, since there real lives probably suck that much.
Most people would consider me a type GÇ£AGÇ¥ personality type, I love serious competition, to me ganking has never been about that.
For me, Eve is a bit of an escape from reality of sorts. I honestly think it is for most people. Honestly my life is stressful enough, and challenging to boot, and does suck quite frequently.
I play Eve to relax and have a good time.
I was in an ice belt last night, one I mine from time to time, Not frequently. I remember warping in there, and seeing at least 30 GÇô 100 people, or toons if you like, working mining Ice. Last night there were non, I honestly didnGÇÖt believe it.
For those that actually made it thru my little ramble here I got to ask you, GÇ£Miners, care bear sorts pleaseGÇ¥. At what point will you determine that Eve isnGÇÖt fun any more, and itGÇÖs time to move on? I think many have already reached this point. Who really wants to hang out with a bunch of Mean people. I donGÇÖt, do you?
Please donGÇÖt miss interpret me, every player does in fact have the right to do anything they want in this game within the EULA. I will support this to the max.
My specific question is, when do you decide you donGÇÖt want to do anything at all in Eve?
I ask this mostly because, it appears CCP is actually siding with the gankers here, and it is there game no bones about that. The game has changed as we know it, many congratulations to the Gankers.
There are lots of other good games out there, I tried some last weekend. I personally tried BSG online last weekend, found it pretty interesting. In the short term, if you look for me I'll be there. Bye
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
642
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:09:00 -
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A toast to you OP. Cheers mate!  |
Chunicha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:10:00 -
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Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you. |
Price Check Aisle3
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:11:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:My twelve bots don't have any friends in the ice fields anymore!
There are lots of other good games out there, I tried some last weekend. I personally tried BSG online last weekend, found it pretty interesting. In the short term, if you look for me I'll be there. Bye
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Little Brat
Four Gun
18
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:11:00 -
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It is the rule in war, if ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, be able to divide them; if equal, engage them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them. Sun Tzu, 6th Century BC-á |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness
Psychotic Tendencies.
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:12:00 -
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People need to stop blaming players for a ******, boring game mechanic that is called 'mining'. Blame CCP.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
73
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:13:00 -
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I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.
For me personally, i'll quit when Im not allowed to play the game my way, regardless of what anyone thinks. It could be mission running now but it could be some sort of pvp in the future. I'll quit eve if some other spaceship game comes out that has player driven market but with less douches, until then eve is the only game to play. |
lanyaie
315
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:13:00 -
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Buy my anti gank tickets?
Can I have your stuff?
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
508
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:14:00 -
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Good luck once again alt. |
sweetrock
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:14:00 -
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 My answer to when you start finding the game boring, for myself it was 9 years after i started |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
133
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:16:00 -
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Next time don't play sandbox games.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
249
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:17:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:People need to stop blaming players for a ******, boring game mechanic that is called 'mining'. Blame CCP.
Did you actually read OP's post? The problem is ganking, not mining. The problem is the people who only get their rocks off by ruining somebody else's day. OP didn't actually blame anybody. |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
249
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:18:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Next time don't play sandbox games.
Why don't you grow up and stop telling other people what to do? Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies. |
Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:19:00 -
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Seriously Ginseng, the first post in these type of threads should always be "can I have your stuff?"
But since it hasn't happened yet
OP, can I have your stuff? |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:19:00 -
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Farewell Capsuleer! Best of luck in your new endeavors! I too have been thinking these same thoughts.
Hopefully you'll return to Eve! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
995
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:24:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:People need to stop blaming players for a ******, boring game mechanic that is called 'mining'. Blame CCP. Did you actually read OP's post? The problem is ganking, not mining. The problem is the people who only get their rocks off by ruining somebody else's day. OP didn't actually blame anybody.
Of course it's ganking.
It's always ganking.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Price Check Aisle3
44
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:24:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Why don't you grow up and stop telling other people what to do? Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies.
Aren't you quitting? |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
419
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:27:00 -
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Price Check Aisle3 wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Why don't you grow up and stop telling other people what to do? Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies. Aren't you quitting?
He's been quitting for over a month now it seems.
Also I'll be sure to look up Minmatar Citizen 121123433 on BSG later on.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
751
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:37:00 -
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I wish CCP would start biomassing all the accounts related to an IP address that posts about quitting.
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Sir John Halsey
4
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:42:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:There are lots of other good games out there, I tried some last weekend. I personally tried BSG online last weekend, found it pretty interesting. In the short term, if you look for me I'll be there. Bye
I hope you joined the toasters side and not the skinjobs
One thing i like about that game is that you can play it solo, small gang or the blob way without having to join a 100+ man wing :D
And in the end, one advice if you want to have fun in that game: master the art of flying a strike :) |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
113
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:43:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.
For me personally, i'll quit when Im not allowed to play the game my way, regardless of what anyone thinks. It could be mission running now but it could be some sort of pvp in the future. I'll quit eve if some other spaceship game comes out that has player driven market but with less douches, until then eve is the only game to play.
You don't actually PvP do you?  |
Lharanai
Empyrean Guard
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
171
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:44:00 -
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Chunicha wrote:Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you.
WRONG
EVE is just a GAME, and normal people play games to have fun or too relax. Something the OP had until something changed and he decided to quit. This is only funny if he belonged to an insignificant group of players. But as long as we don't know that or how many miners are carebear alts and how many casual players, all discussion about what will happen is useless. Please stop telling that crap about "carebears" or "adapt or die" as long as you have more than one account.
The diversion I see in EVE is between hardcore players with multiple accounts and organized in Alliances (yes organization and fleet ops needs time) and casual players with limited time. Time is an important issue for players, as it decides if you participate in organized operations (PVE and PVP) or not. I heard it so often during my time in EVE that players left (and I struggled by myself) because of time issues, that they can't be successful or having fun with being a casual player.
Casual players often tend to PVE (missions and mining) because they can do it alone and don't have to relay on other people being online at the same time and not because they are asocial or hate PVP.
Too make that clear, I am not a miner, I give a **** about my killboard, I get my kick in EVE from mocking the "predators". You could say I am "prey" but I am a frigging good one. But all this recent PVP versus Carebear, EVE becomes Vanilla BS on the forum recently makes me ANGRY.
Ok, end of rant I should stop reading GD
Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
598
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:47:00 -
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joins boxing club
complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
73
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:47:00 -
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Calfis wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.
For me personally, i'll quit when Im not allowed to play the game my way, regardless of what anyone thinks. It could be mission running now but it could be some sort of pvp in the future. I'll quit eve if some other spaceship game comes out that has player driven market but with less douches, until then eve is the only game to play. You don't actually PvP do you?
If you mean roaming looking for randomers or attacking the first person i see for the "lulz", no, i don't enjoy it. Check the corp im in, i don't like "pointless" pvp. Im all for engaging pirates and taking their CO's so the corp gets more income, infact we did just that recently. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory
Blue Nation
73
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:50:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:joins boxing club
complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes
From new player perspective it's actually more like
>Joins a gym
>finds out the gym is full of douches that won't let you use certain exercise machines even if you don't do anything wrong
>quits gym |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:50:00 -
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I'd reasonably expect anybody posting about quitting to do it with their main, considering that they can't really go after you if you're quitting, now can they?
eh |
Lharanai
Empyrean Guard
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
171
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:51:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:joins boxing club
complains about getting punched and how boxing is too violent, he just wanted to hang out and exercise with ripped dudes
joins boxing club, has fun in boxing club for years, atmosphere in boxing club changes, has not longer fun in boxing club, leaves.
only funny if he is the only one leaving the boxing club, we will see what the future brings.....hope I am wrong but I am also a pessimist :)
Seriously, don't take me serious, I MEAN IT...seriously |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe
Against ALL Authorities
113
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Check the corp im in
I did, they don't and you don't  |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
472
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Drop two side accounts who were miners for when I didn't want to keep on the edge of my seat tracking who is in local or d-scan as if I'm living in a WH, Which is no longer the case, so keeping one account to train into ganking and join the mob and burning the universe. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
2296
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:08:00 -
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Again another one bites the dust.
Always saddens me to see these types of threads constantly being posted every day now. This has definitely been the trend for the past couple of years, especially in this year alone. Obviously this is a major problem now due to unbalanced game mechanics being exploited on a large scale which seriously needs to be addressed by CCP asap. If there wasn't a problem, this sub-forum wouldn't be filled with threads about the topic of ganking.
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