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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:21:00 -
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 Originally by: J'Maybe Keens
Player to Player transactions will only re-distribute isk, not create it (10 million isk to the first person that shows me how Player to Player transactions within Eve can create isk
Okee dokee. You have player A and player B.
Player A needs minerals so he tells player B go mine some minerals for him. Player B says I will mine if you will pay me. So Player A goes shoot some NPCs, which introduces isk in the game, so he can pay player B for the minerals player B mines. Without player B mining player A would not have gone to shoot NPCs. Therefore trade between players introduces isk into the game.
Do I win? Do I win? Or is your brain getting overheated? I am teh winzor.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: J'Maybe Keens
Player to Player transactions will only re-distribute isk, not create it (10 million isk to the first person that shows me how Player to Player transactions within Eve can create isk
Okee dokee. You have player A and player B.
Player A needs minerals so he tells player B go mine some minerals for him. Player B says I will mine if you will pay me. So Player A goes shoot some NPCs, which introduces isk in the game, so he can pay player B for the minerals player B mines. Without player B mining player A would not have gone to shoot NPCs. Therefore trade between players introduces isk into the game.
Do I win? Do I win? Or is your brain getting overheated? I am teh winzor.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:55:00 -
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If you open your econ book you will see it somewhere prominent that trade creates wealth because it captures consumer and producer surpluses. For example my 1 unit of tritanium is worth 1 isk to me and it is worth 2 isk to you. So I will agree to sell it to you for 1.5 isk and you agree to buy it for 1.5 isk. I am happy because I got .5 isk more than it was worth to me and you are happy because you got for .5 isk less than you were willing to pay. So we are both better off.
Now the same thing with numbers:
Before the trade I had my 1 unit of tritanium which was worth 1 isk to me, and you had your 2 isk. After the trade I have 1.5 isk, and you have a unit of tritanium that is worth 2 isk to you, and you also have .5 isk. 1 isk + 2 isk is less than 1.5 isk + 2 isk +.5 isk
I really want my 10M isk for proving your theory wrong or eve-guardian economics is bull****.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 15:55:00 -
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If you open your econ book you will see it somewhere prominent that trade creates wealth because it captures consumer and producer surpluses. For example my 1 unit of tritanium is worth 1 isk to me and it is worth 2 isk to you. So I will agree to sell it to you for 1.5 isk and you agree to buy it for 1.5 isk. I am happy because I got .5 isk more than it was worth to me and you are happy because you got for .5 isk less than you were willing to pay. So we are both better off.
Now the same thing with numbers:
Before the trade I had my 1 unit of tritanium which was worth 1 isk to me, and you had your 2 isk. After the trade I have 1.5 isk, and you have a unit of tritanium that is worth 2 isk to you, and you also have .5 isk. 1 isk + 2 isk is less than 1.5 isk + 2 isk +.5 isk
I really want my 10M isk for proving your theory wrong or eve-guardian economics is bull****.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:27:00 -
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The least you can do is go dig up a book on trade economics, which you obviously did not have time to do in the time it took you to write your reply.
At the end of the day your reputation depends on quality of your ideas.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 16:27:00 -
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The least you can do is go dig up a book on trade economics, which you obviously did not have time to do in the time it took you to write your reply.
At the end of the day your reputation depends on quality of your ideas.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:24:00 -
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Anyway, what makes you so sure that you are right? What if I am "remarkably more schooled" in economics than you, what if what I just said is just standard advanced econ theory that you dont know, and what if what I said is just going well over your head? And what if then if all this is true then you proceed on flaming me and calling for uncalled for apology? And then your friends call me a troll.
What I said has more meaning than anything that you have written. Why not learn and use it instead of remaining in your econ dark ages.
If you construct what you said as narrowly as you want to construct it then what you said is trivial. If you interpret what you said broadly enough for it to be not tautological, as I did, then you were proven wrong.
If I were you I would have given what I wrote more credit but hey as I said it is your reputation at stake against mine.
As it is it seems that you made an empty 10M guarantee, which now you should probably reword to "Prove me wrong and get 10M or insults, the choice of what you get is up to me."
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 21:24:00 -
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Anyway, what makes you so sure that you are right? What if I am "remarkably more schooled" in economics than you, what if what I just said is just standard advanced econ theory that you dont know, and what if what I said is just going well over your head? And what if then if all this is true then you proceed on flaming me and calling for uncalled for apology? And then your friends call me a troll.
What I said has more meaning than anything that you have written. Why not learn and use it instead of remaining in your econ dark ages.
If you construct what you said as narrowly as you want to construct it then what you said is trivial. If you interpret what you said broadly enough for it to be not tautological, as I did, then you were proven wrong.
If I were you I would have given what I wrote more credit but hey as I said it is your reputation at stake against mine.
As it is it seems that you made an empty 10M guarantee, which now you should probably reword to "Prove me wrong and get 10M or insults, the choice of what you get is up to me."
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:06:00 -
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I rest my case.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:06:00 -
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I rest my case.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:20:00 -
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Are you like a bully economist?
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:20:00 -
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Are you like a bully economist?
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:24:00 -
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On the other hand I knew I detected something bovine about you.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:24:00 -
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On the other hand I knew I detected something bovine about you.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:35:00 -
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Maybe next time you give the 10M challenge you should escrow that money to someone neutral. This way you ensure that the challenge can be won, and it would erase doubts that you actually have the 10M.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:35:00 -
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Maybe next time you give the 10M challenge you should escrow that money to someone neutral. This way you ensure that the challenge can be won, and it would erase doubts that you actually have the 10M.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:41:00 -
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I rested my economics case. Your example is trivial. It contributes nothing new to knowledge.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:41:00 -
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I rested my economics case. Your example is trivial. It contributes nothing new to knowledge.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.13 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey
So am I rich(er)?
snowflake's chance in hell
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.11.13 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nooey
So am I rich(er)?
snowflake's chance in hell
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