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Michelle Vega	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:09:00 - [1] Is this just a clever use of game mechanics? - Pirate warps to belt and bombs away the ships - Pirate ejects from his BS - Pirates friend jumps from shuttle to the BS - Friend warps off happily whenever he wants - Pirate in the pod warps back to his safe spot. - 15 minutes - Repeat Or would that be an exploit?
Messoroz	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:12:00 - [2] Evading concord is a exploit.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:14:00 - [3] Wouldn't surprise me if CONCORD uses Voodoo Mojo to keep you from ejecting. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Michelle Vega Is this just a clever use of game mechanics? - Pirate warps to belt and bombs away the ships - Pirate ejects from his BS - Pirates friend jumps from shuttle to the BS - Friend warps off happily whenever he wants - Pirate in the pod warps back to his safe spot. - 15 minutes - Repeat Or would that be an exploit? Have you even tried this? Problem 1: Concord will continue killing the ships if I recall correctly. Problem 2: there is a bug, erm feature where concord might pod you if you eject from a ship. problem 3: I think the ship will be targeted by concord so friend will not be able to board said ship. Unless something changed those are the flaws to the plan.
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:15:00 - [5] I think they keep shooting the ship anyways. Dont they? -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Charger45	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:22:00 - [6] concord is faster than that they arrive in less than 30 seconds he would have to get in that bs and out really quick unless he didn't have a negative sec status, but yes if this is possible this is an exploit. I might try it out thanks for the tip.
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Charger45 concord is faster than that they arrive in less than 30 seconds he would have to get in that bs and out really quick unless he didn't have a negative sec status, but yes if this is possible this is an exploit. I might try it out thanks for the tip. Let me know if you get podded after you eject, that feature is at least 3 years old and was still in game 2 years ago. not sure about it now.
Amanda Mor	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:29:00 - [8] These threads seem to pop up every now and then, from people trying to find a way around the CONCORD mechanics. To make it abundantly clear - there is NO, repeat NO, legal game mechanic that allows you to keep your ship once CONCORD gets involved. If you draw the wrath of CONCORD, you are absolutely guaranteed to lose your ship. Even if this would "work" (which it won't), the devs will simply intervene and take your ship from you. As the guy above said, evading CONCORD in any way is considered an exploit in and of itself. I'd suggest that you stop trying to find ways to evade CONCORD, concentrate more on ways to gank the target faster than CONCORD can kill your ship, and pick your targets carefully enough that it's worth losing your ship for.
Kewso	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Kewso on 24/08/2009 22:39:29 the other way, if you had it setup :) have a shuttle sitting there you warp in with your bs and kill targets eject board shuttle concord blows up the shuttle reboard the bs go on your merry way :)
Doktor Feeelgoood	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:42:00 - [10] You can't board a ship that's being targeted by someone....................or something..............
Ivana Drake Caldari Annihilate. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:44:00 - [11] I escaped CONCORD once upon a time I was in my Succubus and then I accidently shot a can (no wrecks at the time), and then got a bad "WERE GUNNA GETCHU" msg pop up and thought I was stuffed. I hit my MWD and then CONCORD spawned, locked me but didn't fire. I get to 200k-ish and they un-spawn and re-spawn next to me and the same thing happens. This happens for 15 mins til' the thing runs out and they stop chasing me...
Kewso	Posted - 2009.08.24 22:56:00 - [12] the shuttle trick used to work, don't know about now since nothing targets it, if ejected and board the shuttle just before concord arrives they blow up the shuttle.
minerboob Gallente LG Industries	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:06:00 - [13] I see the item "nerf bat" (look this up its ammo) in the future of anyone who tries this. Along with a nice Jove frigate firing them. Radioactive cats have 18 half lives.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:36:00 - [14] The ship you use to aggro someone and get concorded keeps its criminal flag even if you eject before concord arrives. As far as wierd concord evasions there was a caldari station with about 30 noob shis left at various spots on the undock to mire down big ships trying to warp away so I undocked and got into one to shoot the station and collect a gcc so I could just enter each one to have it blown up by concord. Well concord appeared but it was on the far side of the station and the got all tangled up in each other and just sat there doing nothing but flashing yellow at me. Eventualy had to slowboat around the side to get them unstuck and then they rushed me to do thier duty. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.08.24 23:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Zeba The ship you use to aggro someone and get concorded keeps its criminal flag even if you eject before concord arrives. As far as wierd concord evasions there was a caldari station with about 30 noob shis left at various spots on the undock to mire down big ships trying to warp away so I undocked and got into one to shoot the station and collect a gcc so I could just enter each one to have it blown up by concord. Well concord appeared but it was on the far side of the station and the got all tangled up in each other and just sat there doing nothing but flashing yellow at me. Eventualy had to slowboat around the side to get them unstuck and then they rushed me to do thier duty. does shooting station gives gcc? Yay! Six months of defending! \o/ <3 to Abrazzar!
Frobos Weird Cat Research Zombie Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.25 01:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Amanda Mor These threads seem to pop up every now and then, from people trying to find a way around the CONCORD mechanics. To make it abundantly clear - there is NO, repeat NO, legal game mechanic that allows you to keep your ship once CONCORD gets involved. If you draw the wrath of CONCORD, you are absolutely guaranteed to lose your ship. Even if this would "work" (which it won't), the devs will simply intervene and take your ship from you. As the guy above said, evading CONCORD in any way is considered an exploit in and of itself. I'd suggest that you stop trying to find ways to evade CONCORD, concentrate more on ways to gank the target faster than CONCORD can kill your ship, and pick your targets carefully enough that it's worth losing your ship for. This! Also, just wanted to get in directly under Cat. I think I can see up her kilt!
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.08.25 01:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails does shooting station gives gcc? It should or at least it used to. This was about four years ago so who knows what mechanics may have changed. Matter of fact I seem to remember the sentry guns not firing either but then again this was back when the motsu black hole of lag reached to the far corners of caldari space so it could have been some form of desync. Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Doktor Feeelgoood	Posted - 2009.08.25 06:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Doktor Feeelgoood on 25/08/2009 06:42:44 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails does shooting station gives gcc? Last I checked, it actually doesn't. Just gives you aggro against the faction.
Amateratsu Caldari The Pegasus Project	Posted - 2009.08.25 06:59:00 - [19] Edited by: Amateratsu on 25/08/2009 07:00:54 When you incur the wrath of Concord you the pilot gets the GCC, when Concord spawn they will destroy EVERY ship owned by you, including unmaned ships floating in space... Once on sisi i found several megathron's floating round a station after undocking in a shuttle. I ejected from the shuttle and boarded 1 of the mega's then shot at the station. Concord not only blew up the mega i borarded, but also the unmaned shuttle i left behind. That was a year+ ago so may have changed since then. á
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice	Posted - 2009.08.25 07:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Amateratsu Edited by: Amateratsu on 25/08/2009 07:00:54 When you incur the wrath of Concord you the pilot gets the GCC, when Concord spawn they will destroy EVERY ship owned by you, including unmaned ships floating in space... This. People have had their ships floating in POSes get nuked by CONCORD because they went on GCC. Remember kids, it is an exploit to evade CONCORD! *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Arous Drephius	Posted - 2009.08.25 08:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood Edited by: Doktor Feeelgoood on 25/08/2009 06:42:44 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails does shooting station gives gcc? Last I checked, it actually doesn't. Just gives you aggro against the faction. Not even that IIRC. If you shoot the station then you get a timer against the corp that owns the station - nothing more. The station guns will shoot you but that's it (and you can just warp out, or tank them and dock). At a moon with two stations on the same grid (owned by different corps) I've seen someone shoot one station and warp to the other which is ~500k away, and the guns will still be shooting them and missing.
Djana Libra Caldari Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.08.25 08:58:00 - [22] Originally by: Frobos Originally by: Amanda Mor These threads seem to pop up every now and then, from people trying to find a way around the CONCORD mechanics. To make it abundantly clear - there is NO, repeat NO, legal game mechanic that allows you to keep your ship once CONCORD gets involved. If you draw the wrath of CONCORD, you are absolutely guaranteed to lose your ship. Even if this would "work" (which it won't), the devs will simply intervene and take your ship from you. As the guy above said, evading CONCORD in any way is considered an exploit in and of itself. I'd suggest that you stop trying to find ways to evade CONCORD, concentrate more on ways to gank the target faster than CONCORD can kill your ship, and pick your targets carefully enough that it's worth losing your ship for. This! Also, just wanted to get in directly under Cat. I think I can see up her kilt! argh another cat alt, btw the smell must have been horrible <SIG> I bought the wife a toy Deimos to have fun with while i play eve! </SIG>
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.08.25 17:52:00 - [23] Stated above is true. Concord will keep firing on the ship since both it and you have a GCC. Whatever YOU board will also be shot at. Also, the ship will be targetted and thus impossible to board. Will not work. And even if it did = Avoiding Concord is lah exploit leads to dah ban. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die.
Major Stallion Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.08.25 18:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood You can't board a ship that's being targeted by someone....................or something.............. this...you fools
Frobos Weird Cat Research Zombie Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.25 20:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Djana Libra Originally by: Frobos Originally by: Amanda Mor These threads seem to pop up every now and then, from people trying to find a way around the CONCORD mechanics. To make it abundantly clear - there is NO, repeat NO, legal game mechanic that allows you to keep your ship once CONCORD gets involved. If you draw the wrath of CONCORD, you are absolutely guaranteed to lose your ship. Even if this would "work" (which it won't), the devs will simply intervene and take your ship from you. As the guy above said, evading CONCORD in any way is considered an exploit in and of itself. I'd suggest that you stop trying to find ways to evade CONCORD, concentrate more on ways to gank the target faster than CONCORD can kill your ship, and pick your targets carefully enough that it's worth losing your ship for. This! Also, just wanted to get in directly under Cat. I think I can see up her kilt! argh another cat alt, btw the smell must have been horrible Pure coincidence I assure you! Also, I never got close enough before getting a boot to the head :-\
Faife Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.08.25 22:24:00 - [26] if it works, it's an exploit. -- Check out my EVE cartoons

GM Grimmi	Posted - 2009.08.27 19:59:00 - [27] This is indeed an exploit and players caught using it will be dealt with accordingly. GM Grimmi Lead Game Master EVE CSS


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:19:00 - [28] Edited by: Chribba on 27/08/2009 20:19:11 Dear G, while you're here, I'm jacking this thread, what's that word on yellow text being an exploit or something like that? Win a Wyvern mothership for 10M ISK

Kembla Shed Enterprises	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:32:00 - [29] Perhaps you should use a petition instead of announcing to the community.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Kembla Perhaps you should use a petition instead of announcing to the community. Well as the red bar 2 posts up posted they will getbanned so yes they know about it and yes they'll get banned if caught :P
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:21:00 - [31] Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 27/08/2009 20:19:11 Dear G, while you're here, I'm jacking this thread, what's that word on yellow text being an exploit or something like that? Um what? ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:22:00 - [32] Originally by: Hoo Is Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 27/08/2009 20:19:11 Dear G, while you're here, I'm jacking this thread, what's that word on yellow text being an exploit or something like that? Um what? ITs best if you don't know. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Lothros Andastar Gallente	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Hoo Is Originally by: Chribba Edited by: Chribba on 27/08/2009 20:19:11 Dear G, while you're here, I'm jacking this thread, what's that word on yellow text being an exploit or something like that? Um what? ITs best if you don't know. Chribba has clearly gone mad on Veld
tropic89	Posted - 2009.08.27 22:27:00 - [34] haha, can anyone say "black ops" nuke ship in belt, then jump cyno to low sec :)
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.08.27 22:29:00 - [35] Originally by: tropic89 haha, can anyone say "black ops" nuke ship in belt, then jump cyno to low sec :) This was fixed a long time ago. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Jarna Amarr Exhumer Industries	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:34:00 - [36] I think it's dumb that it's an "exploit" An exploit implies that it is fixable by coding so as to cause the game not to allow it. If it's not fixable, that just means it's a by-product of the coding and you can't punish someone for playing the game according to the programmed rules, intentional or not. If I can get out of my ship and run away before CONCORD gets there, why is that illegal? If I can get out of my car before the cops get to me, you don't suddenly see 5 cops appear in front of you to stop you.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.08.28 16:39:00 - [37] I've made it past CONCORD... once. I posted a thread not too long ago but I can't be asked to look it up. Anyway it involved me having crap security and entering Yulai in my Navy Comet. Not wanting to lose my Comet and deal with the CCP petition system to fight to get it back I started warping to planets. Like crazy. Long warps too. Like mash warp to whatever is aligned to you. Apparently it wasn't a sploit, because the mechanics of entering a CONCORD sovereign system really are not supposed to flag you as Global. But it does, so you lose your ship. It was a one time deal. Now my sec is up and I won't have to deal with that for quite some time :X www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com ò Buy a GTC
Wacoede Amarr Allied Combat Team	Posted - 2009.08.28 17:47:00 - [38] Originally by: Jarna I think it's dumb that it's an "exploit" An exploit implies that it is fixable by coding so as to cause the game not to allow it. If it's not fixable, that just means it's a by-product of the coding and you can't punish someone for playing the game according to the programmed rules, intentional or not. If I can get out of my ship and run away before CONCORD gets there, why is that illegal? If I can get out of my car before the cops get to me, you don't suddenly see 5 cops appear in front of you to stop you. Originally by: Wikipedia In the realm of online games, an exploit is usually a software bug, design flaw, hack or bot that contributes to the user's prosperity in a manner not intended by the developers. therefore anything that CCP says is an exploit is an exploit they could turn round and declare that using mining drones in combat to be an exploit because they weren't meant for combat (think there's mechaics that stop mining drones from attacking ships anyway) ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Avery Fatwallet when someone sez "eve is too tuff" standard reply is "can i have stuff?"
Cassius Longinus Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.08.28 18:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I posted a thread not too long ago but I can't be asked to look it up. Anyway it involved me having crap security and entering Yulai in my Navy Comet. Not wanting to lose my Comet and deal with the CCP petition system to fight to get it back I started warping to planets. Happened to me in Pakhshi (CONCORD Sov). Gate guns gift you with a GCC for having a low sec status, but small ships can kill the timer by warping planets. That said, I'm not convinced that those spawned drones are real concord. I think they are just faction drones which happen to give GCC's. I wish they would just fix that bug w/ the GCC's in CONCORD sov territory. Quite annoying for the lazy and/or ignorant (/me).
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.08.28 18:21:00 - [40] Edited by: De''Veldrin on 28/08/2009 18:23:16 Originally by: tropic89 haha, can anyone say "black ops" nuke ship in belt, then jump cyno to low sec :) Even if it worked, it's still an exploit and you will still be banned. But please, feel free to give it a shot. Either way the rest of us will get some lolz at your expense. Edit: While we're on the subject, I really am curious to know why these topics keep popping up. Even if the latest "Escape CONCORD!!one!eleven!ty-one!!!!!" idea does work, it's still an exploit and all it takes is one petition to make it seem a lot less like "I got away with it!" and a lot more like "WTF?!" tl;dr: Evanding and/or manipulating CONCORD for your own purposes is an exploit and you can (and will) be banned for it, regardless of how "cool" the idea may seem. --Vel Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're an asshat.
Amanda Mor	Posted - 2009.08.28 18:43:00 - [41] Originally by: Jarna I think it's dumb that it's an "exploit" An exploit implies that it is fixable by coding so as to cause the game not to allow it. If it's not fixable, that just means it's a by-product of the coding and you can't punish someone for playing the game according to the programmed rules, intentional or not. If I can get out of my ship and run away before CONCORD gets there, why is that illegal? If I can get out of my car before the cops get to me, you don't suddenly see 5 cops appear in front of you to stop you. uhhhh....please tell me you're joking. This is a terrible analogy. "We have the suspect in a white Dodge heading east on Main St." "Wait! He's getting out of the vehicle!" "Alright, let him go, we can't touch him now. Let's just hope he gets back into the vehicle within 15 minutes and we'll arrest him then. After 15 minutes, however, the Statute of Limitations is up and he's free to go." If the RL police are chasing you, you can't just jump out of your car and suddenly you're innocent. The cops will continue to chase you (and the camera crew as well if you're in an episode of "Cops"), until they track you down and prosecute you to the full extent of the law. If anything, you get in even more trouble by trying to evade RL cops, ie resisting arrest, so count yourself lucky that CONCORD only takes your ship and not your pod. "Successfully" resisting arrest in this game means getting banned. And the "programmed rules" that you mentioned are updated all the time, so they are, in fact, fixable. Regardless, the actual rules of the game state that invoking a CONCORD response means you will lose your ship, period.

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