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Trazis
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:20:00 -
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As the name suggests this is my first Bs and I'm wondering what everyone thinks of my fit. Please rate it and give advice on how to improve it if its not the first option :)
Is it: Blows my mind super orgasmically uber pwn Great Average Not so good I'm going to pod you myself for thinking of this horrible fit
Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Linky to Battle Clinic
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:24:00 -
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I'm going to pod you myself for thinking of that horrible fit.
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Trazis
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Trazis on 25/08/2009 10:36:15 How bout now? It's Probably gonna be used for gate camps mainly and the occasional Null sec roam in which I'd add a mwd.
Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Warp Disruption Field Generator I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:45:00 -
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Better. Now you need to ask yourself whether you need better scan resolution. A HIC in a gatecamp is a specialist tackler and needs to apply its point ASAP, and to do that it needs sensor boosters - or to be remote sensor boosted.
A MWD is still useful for keeping point on targets that try to burn away. A web or scrambler is useful for tackling targets that burn back to the gate. At this point you're running out of midslots, which is why the Phobos is arguably the best gatecamper HIC.
Other things to consider are fitting multiple WDFGs, particularly for lowsec - except for very small gangs, your DPS isn't really important, you're there for tackling. Similarly, Nos will help you run those points and defend against neuts.
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Xephys
Dark Twilight Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:37:00 -
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Just to add a little spice to this boring thread, SPRs and Purgers can be used on a broadsword, esp. if you're camping stations and/or know you'll be engaging a gang or be encountering high DPS. Without a web fitted, a broadsword can easily reach a 1100 DPS tank, around 850 with a web. If you use extenders/PDSs, the tank of the broadsword plummets considerably and you're just left with a glorified buffer tank with nice point.
If I battleship engages you back at a gate, for example, you're going down, because you don't have a tank.
So, instead of following the EFT crowd on this forum and instantly fitting extenders/PDSs on your broadsword and subsequently MWDs, try out the massively tanked Broadsword, see if it suits you better. |
eve warrior
Minmatar Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:48:00 -
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4x 220mm II 2x Warp Disruption Gen
mwd Sensor booster (scan res script) 3x Large shield ext * This mid is changed often, Sometimes webber, extra sensor booster or shield ext... Really depends on whats in gang of if solo.
2x Pdu II 2x Shield power relay II
Rigs: 2x Shield ext rigs or 2x Shield Purger rigs.
I would always recommend a mwd. It has gotten me out of many sticky situations.
ew
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xephys Just to add a little spice to this boring thread, SPRs and Purgers can be used on a broadsword, esp. if you're camping stations and/or know you'll be engaging a gang or be encountering high DPS. Without a web fitted, a broadsword can easily reach a 1100 DPS tank, around 850 with a web. If you use extenders/PDSs, the tank of the broadsword plummets considerably and you're just left with a glorified buffer tank with nice point.
If I battleship engages you back at a gate, for example, you're going down, because you don't have a tank.
So, instead of following the EFT crowd on this forum and instantly fitting extenders/PDSs on your broadsword and subsequently MWDs, try out the massively tanked Broadsword, see if it suits you better.
Spice? More like stupidity and EFT defence bull****. Good luck holding your point on a target while self-neuting your immobile brick.
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Xephys
Dark Twilight Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:58:00 -
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Ouch, someone's angry. Rawr.
Actually, I made a valid point, you just chose to ignore it. 3 minutes is plenty of time to hold a point/web on a target, and a BS or anything big enough worth a damn isn't gonna be running away from you while you have a web on them.
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Cmndr Griff
Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xephys Ouch, someone's angry. Rawr.
Actually, I made a valid point, you just chose to ignore it. 3 minutes is plenty of time to hold a point/web on a target, and a BS or anything big enough worth a damn isn't gonna be running away from you while you have a web on them.
Until they neutralise you. Also i'm pretty sure the buffer variant will last three minutes and not gimp itself cap wise against one BS. It also has the buffer to take on multiple ships if need be, unlike the passive version which will melt.
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:06:00 -
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Generally, for me, it's a set of 650t2 arties, 2 invulns, shield rigs, and sensor boosters. High recharge gives it quite a good tank, but inefficient for solo work.
ACE gate camper, but lack of drive mod makes it utterly pointless for wreck recovery.
When I fit Autos I have to put an AB or MWD on it to close on most targets. If they're at all fast I don't have a chance without a friendly webber slowing them down.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:07:00 -
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Only carebears define tank in terms of DPS.
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Xephys
Dark Twilight Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Xephys on 25/08/2009 12:08:34 Once again, you didn't read my post about the fact that with the extenders, you have around 4-5k more shields, which is around 20-30k EHP extra. However, you're losing something like 500-800 DPS because of it! If you engage several BSes, you will melt in both setups, that 30k EHP you'll be getting won't do anything to save you. Same thing with neuts, if someone puts a heavy neut on you, you'll be struggling to do anyhting with your cap, moreso with an MWD fitted.
I'm just saying that some people will prefer the safer tank that can withstand DPS instead of delay the inevitable death of your HIC with some moar EHP.
Edit: Ouch, I must be a carebear, those 450+ kills I have must have been an accident.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xephys
Once again, you didn't read my post about the fact that with the extenders, you have around 4-5k more shields, which is around 20-30k EHP extra. However, you're losing something like 500-800 DPS because of it! If you engage several BSes, you will melt in both setups, that 30k EHP you'll be getting won't do anything to save you. Same thing with neuts, if someone puts a heavy neut on you, you'll be struggling to do anyhting with your cap, moreso with an MWD fitted.
I'm just saying that some people will prefer the safer tank that can withstand DPS instead of delay the inevitable death of your HIC with some moar EHP.
I've read it again. It's still stupid. If a lone BS attacks your HIC, it's not going to kill you before your gang comes in, but he may neut your point and escape. If several BS attack your HIC, the buffer fit will live longer than your SPR lolfit, and be more resistant to neuting.
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Xephys
Dark Twilight Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:54:00 -
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Right, a lone BS won't kill you before your gang comes in, but if he's competent the broadsword will go down before he does with that buffer fit.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:02:00 -
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You appear to be talking about a HIC vs. BS 1v1.
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slightly sillydude
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: slightly sillydude on 25/08/2009 14:06:52 3xpds 1xdamage control
10mn mwd 3xLSE 2xinvul
bubble generator assortment of nos and neut
2x CDFE
I don't see any reason to use guns on it. Youd be lucky if the DPS could break a rigged frigates tank.
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