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Katjia	Posted - 2004.10.15 07:47:00 - [1] ccp pls pimp the convoys again.....ie put things back in them.
Katjia	Posted - 2004.10.15 07:47:00 - [2] ccp pls pimp the convoys again.....ie put things back in them.
Katjia	Posted - 2004.10.15 07:48:00 - [3] stupid small buttons here we go..... ="Conrad"]You can find the CFS Charter here: http://cfs-eve.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2779 First off, CFS space is still open. Those that fight to protect CFS space will not be subject to any fine, fee etc and nothing changes for them. Freeloaders, you either need to pay up or leave CFS space. We are goign to start this in Shiva. All the stations in CFS space will now require some standings to dock. In order to get those recognized standings you need to fight when called for in the joint militaries of CFS, DSMA, StA or the respective Querious Defense Force. If you don't, your subject to the new pass, in which you wil be granted a positive standing so you can use the stations. I would like to note here, if you simply avoid the stations and are not positive with us, you will be warned to leave. If found again you will lose your indies carrying the raw ore back to empire. If found again, and no pass is bought then your corp will become KOS. Why are we doing this? Total free space can't work in eve. With our changes we are happy to be the home of friendly corps that do fight to protect free space or that will contribute to the military through minerals. and as his quote says "freedom has a price" ccp pls pimp the convoys again.....ie put things back in them.
Katjia	Posted - 2004.10.15 07:48:00 - [4] stupid small buttons here we go..... ="Conrad"]You can find the CFS Charter here: http://cfs-eve.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2779 First off, CFS space is still open. Those that fight to protect CFS space will not be subject to any fine, fee etc and nothing changes for them. Freeloaders, you either need to pay up or leave CFS space. We are goign to start this in Shiva. All the stations in CFS space will now require some standings to dock. In order to get those recognized standings you need to fight when called for in the joint militaries of CFS, DSMA, StA or the respective Querious Defense Force. If you don't, your subject to the new pass, in which you wil be granted a positive standing so you can use the stations. I would like to note here, if you simply avoid the stations and are not positive with us, you will be warned to leave. If found again you will lose your indies carrying the raw ore back to empire. If found again, and no pass is bought then your corp will become KOS. Why are we doing this? Total free space can't work in eve. With our changes we are happy to be the home of friendly corps that do fight to protect free space or that will contribute to the military through minerals. and as his quote says "freedom has a price" ccp pls pimp the convoys again.....ie put things back in them.
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:09:00 - [5] But u missed one important point! Currently FA controls the station in CFSspace. They make the rules. They say who¦s able to dock, refine, etc. How do u want to change this?
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:09:00 - [6] But u missed one important point! Currently FA controls the station in CFSspace. They make the rules. They say who¦s able to dock, refine, etc. How do u want to change this?
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Special agent But u missed one important point! Currently FA controls the station in CFSspace. They make the rules. They say who¦s able to dock, refine, etc. How do u want to change this? you are right, but FA also works together with CFS. They claim the stations, but have still to follow CFS charter. CFS tell FA corps not beeing able to dock and FA change it. I dont see any problems here. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Special agent But u missed one important point! Currently FA controls the station in CFSspace. They make the rules. They say who¦s able to dock, refine, etc. How do u want to change this? you are right, but FA also works together with CFS. They claim the stations, but have still to follow CFS charter. CFS tell FA corps not beeing able to dock and FA change it. I dont see any problems here. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:12:00 - [9] btw ALT replys are only to cause trouble _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:12:00 - [10] btw ALT replys are only to cause trouble _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:16:00 - [11] at last, CFS understands the futility of their idea and reforms, this should be interesting. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:16:00 - [12] at last, CFS understands the futility of their idea and reforms, this should be interesting. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:23:00 - [13] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 08:46:47 hmmmm i hope this changes will be a good thing :) BUt do this people need somekind of pass? How will you / we control this? which person should be contacted? this are things the people want to know ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:23:00 - [14] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 08:46:47 hmmmm i hope this changes will be a good thing :) BUt do this people need somekind of pass? How will you / we control this? which person should be contacted? this are things the people want to know ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:29:00 - [15] Its not as if CFS can cargo scan every indy that goes through space. It isnt hard to get indies in an out. We did it numerous times and we are KoS. So i don't see how this can be enforced. ---------------
Amthrianius	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:29:00 - [16] Its not as if CFS can cargo scan every indy that goes through space. It isnt hard to get indies in an out. We did it numerous times and we are KoS. So i don't see how this can be enforced. ---------------
Trooper B99	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:30:00 - [17] grin The stars may be free, but entry to freeloaders ain't. Was wondering how long it'd be before sommit like this would come about. 90 million isk a week in minerals, or there abouts. Should get some of those people helping . . . a little. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Trooper B99	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:30:00 - [18] grin The stars may be free, but entry to freeloaders ain't. Was wondering how long it'd be before sommit like this would come about. 90 million isk a week in minerals, or there abouts. Should get some of those people helping . . . a little. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Zefram Chochrane	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:33:00 - [19] we were actually discussing our options yesterday, we have alot of good plans :D MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Minister of Mining Director of Advertising Can Placement Defender of UFS Space
Zefram Chochrane	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:33:00 - [20] we were actually discussing our options yesterday, we have alot of good plans :D MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Minister of Mining Director of Advertising Can Placement Defender of UFS Space
Kickass	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:47:00 - [21] I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls....
Kickass	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:47:00 - [22] I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls....
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:53:00 - [23] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 08:57:24 Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... i think cfs space isn¦t closed like FA space... I think it¦s to prevent people building up POS everywhere If people buildt POS everywhere, delve is becoming like Tash. At every moon a station correct me if i¦m wrong... edit: Missed to say.. if everybody (neutral towards CFS) can bring there POS to a station (nol maybe), u can¦t control who¦s Ancoring POS¦ses ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 08:53:00 - [24] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 08:57:24 Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... i think cfs space isn¦t closed like FA space... I think it¦s to prevent people building up POS everywhere If people buildt POS everywhere, delve is becoming like Tash. At every moon a station correct me if i¦m wrong... edit: Missed to say.. if everybody (neutral towards CFS) can bring there POS to a station (nol maybe), u can¦t control who¦s Ancoring POS¦ses ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:22:00 - [25] Originally by: CFS Charter All lawful corporations, alliances and other entities that substantially assist in providing military support to sa*uard CFS space and uphold the CFS charter will be able to build and use deployables in CFS space. (...) Definition of a deployable: Any type of station built or added to the game, anything that requires deployment or anchoring, and anything that is captureable and or destroyable. So to get this straight: What does the FA currently "contribute" to the military forces of CFS, StA, DSMA and partners others then a 3,5% refining fee, the total control over all stations in question, the ability to shut down Delve, Querious and Period within, lets say 5minutes? Just for clarification: Originally by:** CFS Charter Substantial assistance shall be of such a nature as to be verifiable. Any entity whom dwells in our space must fight to protect it. If any entity chooses not to assist in the protection of our space when asked to at least once a week (this must be verifiable) then that entity loses any privilege to being considered a lawful player and must vacate our space and will be added to the ROS list. This is not limited to those with deployables but to all whom live in CFS space Lets do some math: how many hours sitting in a Cruiser do i have to spend per week to earn the right to anchor a giant secure container? And how many Ships does the FA needs on duty to earn nearly all stations in CFS? and, additionally, to earn the right to raise a 3.5% tax on their "protÚgÚs"? Originally by: Zefram Chochrane we were actually discussing our options yesterday, we have alot of good plans :D MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally by: Sternburg Export i think cfs space isn¦t closed like FA space... I think it¦s to prevent people building up POS everywhere If people buildt POS everywhere, delve is becoming like Tash. At every moon a station correct me if i¦m wrong... i think you miss one important point: If the "plans" Zefram mentioned go off in a particular direction, the space currently known as "CFS Space" might be locked as tight as FA Space, cause it WILL BE FA Space. got me? Or is it already FA space? Let me think. FA controls nearly all stations, FA raises taxes on every single unit ore refined within their whoops CFS space. They control everything in CFS, docking, factories, reproc plants, fitting, cloning. If the FA says ôSNIPö and shuts down all services for non-FA members the CFS and partners are left with? Right, nothing. No reinforcements, no supply, no control. Does any1 know the song ôPuppet on a Stringö by Sandie Shaw? Come on everybody, lets start a singalong.
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:22:00 - [26] Originally by: CFS Charter All lawful corporations, alliances and other entities that substantially assist in providing military support to sa*uard CFS space and uphold the CFS charter will be able to build and use deployables in CFS space. (...) Definition of a deployable: Any type of station built or added to the game, anything that requires deployment or anchoring, and anything that is captureable and or destroyable. So to get this straight: What does the FA currently "contribute" to the military forces of CFS, StA, DSMA and partners others then a 3,5% refining fee, the total control over all stations in question, the ability to shut down Delve, Querious and Period within, lets say 5minutes? Just for clarification: Originally by:** CFS Charter Substantial assistance shall be of such a nature as to be verifiable. Any entity whom dwells in our space must fight to protect it. If any entity chooses not to assist in the protection of our space when asked to at least once a week (this must be verifiable) then that entity loses any privilege to being considered a lawful player and must vacate our space and will be added to the ROS list. This is not limited to those with deployables but to all whom live in CFS space Lets do some math: how many hours sitting in a Cruiser do i have to spend per week to earn the right to anchor a giant secure container? And how many Ships does the FA needs on duty to earn nearly all stations in CFS? and, additionally, to earn the right to raise a 3.5% tax on their "protÚgÚs"? Originally by: Zefram Chochrane we were actually discussing our options yesterday, we have alot of good plans :D MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Originally by: Sternburg Export i think cfs space isn¦t closed like FA space... I think it¦s to prevent people building up POS everywhere If people buildt POS everywhere, delve is becoming like Tash. At every moon a station correct me if i¦m wrong... i think you miss one important point: If the "plans" Zefram mentioned go off in a particular direction, the space currently known as "CFS Space" might be locked as tight as FA Space, cause it WILL BE FA Space. got me? Or is it already FA space? Let me think. FA controls nearly all stations, FA raises taxes on every single unit ore refined within their whoops CFS space. They control everything in CFS, docking, factories, reproc plants, fitting, cloning. If the FA says ôSNIPö and shuts down all services for non-FA members the CFS and partners are left with? Right, nothing. No reinforcements, no supply, no control. Does any1 know the song ôPuppet on a Stringö by Sandie Shaw? Come on everybody, lets start a singalong.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:29:00 - [27] So getting good standings to dock will take as long as getting a social security payment. First you have to talk to CFS Space reps, then you have to proof or not that you are worth the good standing and next the reps contact the FA-reps to adjust the settings. Yawn... Good move, but CFSs path is always too long.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:29:00 - [28] So getting good standings to dock will take as long as getting a social security payment. First you have to talk to CFS Space reps, then you have to proof or not that you are worth the good standing and next the reps contact the FA-reps to adjust the settings. Yawn... Good move, but CFSs path is always too long.
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:36:00 - [29] Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:36:00 - [30] Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:41:00 - [31] I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:41:00 - [32] I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning --------------------------
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:47:00 - [33] Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:47:00 - [34] Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:54:00 - [35] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 09:56:29 Originally by: Loka Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS Thursday i saw one of this Ghosts :) It was u Loka... I¦m scared becuse you are a ghost :) No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 09:54:00 - [36] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 09:56:29 Originally by: Loka Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS Thursday i saw one of this Ghosts :) It was u Loka... I¦m scared becuse you are a ghost :) No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
The Monk	Posted - 2004.10.15 10:49:00 - [37] Can I join the Querious Defense Force??? ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ -----------------------
The Monk	Posted - 2004.10.15 10:49:00 - [38] Can I join the Querious Defense Force??? ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ -----------------------
Conrad	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:21:00 - [39] FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. I honestly don't see how we can be labeled "closed Space". It doen'st say you need to be a member of a partner allaince (DSMA/StA) or a member of CFS. We honestly don't care where you come from, non-alliance as long as your not enemy of CFS, as long as you fight to protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. So, inprinciple, it's free space with a corrected charter. Relating to RL is simple, democracy = free. There are taxes involved, else no army is raised, and as such doesn't work.
Conrad	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:21:00 - [40] FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. I honestly don't see how we can be labeled "closed Space". It doen'st say you need to be a member of a partner allaince (DSMA/StA) or a member of CFS. We honestly don't care where you come from, non-alliance as long as your not enemy of CFS, as long as you fight to protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. So, inprinciple, it's free space with a corrected charter. Relating to RL is simple, democracy = free. There are taxes involved, else no army is raised, and as such doesn't work.
Telemicus	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:24:00 - [41] benwallace, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Way to become a CA forum puppet though, you spit more rhetoric than John Kerry
Telemicus	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:24:00 - [42] benwallace, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Way to become a CA forum puppet though, you spit more rhetoric than John Kerry
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:57:00 - [43] Edited by: MalaMo on 15/10/2004 12:12:30 Edited by: MalaMo on 15/10/2004 12:09:53 Dam it .. I had to log off and log on to ajust changes. Edited by: MalaMoAlt on 15/10/2004 11:53:15 Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. I honestly don't see how we can be labeled "closed Space". It doen'st say you need to be a member of a partner allaince (DSMA/StA) or a member of CFS. We honestly don't care where you come from, non-alliance as long as your not enemy of CFS, as long as you fight to protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. To pay for free space ... Then it isnt free any more. Also note to: ...protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. Basicly I am paying you (CFS) protection. Conclusion: So I can expect that CFS will pay for the damage caused by the CA attack in a2-v27 or any other system under your protection ? ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:57:00 - [44] Edited by: MalaMo on 15/10/2004 12:12:30 Edited by: MalaMo on 15/10/2004 12:09:53 Dam it .. I had to log off and log on to ajust changes. Edited by: MalaMoAlt on 15/10/2004 11:53:15 Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. I honestly don't see how we can be labeled "closed Space". It doen'st say you need to be a member of a partner allaince (DSMA/StA) or a member of CFS. We honestly don't care where you come from, non-alliance as long as your not enemy of CFS, as long as you fight to protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. To pay for free space ... Then it isnt free any more. Also note to: ...protect free space. If not, you pay us to do it for you. Basicly I am paying you (CFS) protection. Conclusion: So I can expect that CFS will pay for the damage caused by the CA attack in a2-v27 or any other system under your protection ? ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
NumBerGuy	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 09:56:29 Originally by: Loka Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS Thursday i saw one of this Ghosts :) It was u Loka... I¦m scared becuse you are a ghost :) No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... CFS defend a2 on a daily basis ? Since when ? QDF have been doing this for the last 2 months and on just a few occasions have I seen cfs, and all they do is camp for a bit then leave. Where was CFS when 9cg and h74 was under attack ? Nowhere to be seen, it was the QDF that took back the stations not CFS.
NumBerGuy	Posted - 2004.10.15 11:59:00 - [46] Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 09:56:29 Originally by: Loka Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning He is right. All noob pirates come to CFS space and bring named guns pls We have ghosts killing CA on a daily base. Anybody call the GHOSTBUSTERS Thursday i saw one of this Ghosts :) It was u Loka... I¦m scared becuse you are a ghost :) No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... CFS defend a2 on a daily basis ? Since when ? QDF have been doing this for the last 2 months and on just a few occasions have I seen cfs, and all they do is camp for a bit then leave. Where was CFS when 9cg and h74 was under attack ? Nowhere to be seen, it was the QDF that took back the stations not CFS.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:00:00 - [47] tbh i think it will actually help getting CFS back up on their legs instead of their knees. Hope it works for them as i think it will gl.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:00:00 - [48] tbh i think it will actually help getting CFS back up on their legs instead of their knees. Hope it works for them as i think it will gl.
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:09:00 - [49] Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE first i dont care if you like ALT posts. second, read Zeframs post. Seems StA and CFS have either a communications problem on their goals or CFS is handling StA as their puppets, what they in fact are. third your reasoning is foolish. it reads like: "Oh well, CFS cant protect their space against noob alliances on their own, so they asked us and DSMA to help them. But even with our help 3 alliances arent enough to fight back those noob alliances. So we asked FA to give us a piece of their space and let us tell everybody its ours. in reward FA controls our stations to scare the bad bad noobs off". -laughs hard- loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. Mr President, excuse my offense to your mighty alliance earlier. I was a fool of thinking CFS/DSMA/StA is weak. If you manage a control a complete Station with only 3 alliances in your own space, thats an example of absolute power! Thats exactly 20% of "your" space actually controlled by you! No other alliance in EVE manages to control 20% of their own space! No they control 100% (and FA even more!), and thats why you, your corp, your alliance and all corp affiliated with any entities within the CFS are imposters. Thats what you are. best regards
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:09:00 - [50] Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE first i dont care if you like ALT posts. second, read Zeframs post. Seems StA and CFS have either a communications problem on their goals or CFS is handling StA as their puppets, what they in fact are. third your reasoning is foolish. it reads like: "Oh well, CFS cant protect their space against noob alliances on their own, so they asked us and DSMA to help them. But even with our help 3 alliances arent enough to fight back those noob alliances. So we asked FA to give us a piece of their space and let us tell everybody its ours. in reward FA controls our stations to scare the bad bad noobs off". -laughs hard- loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. Mr President, excuse my offense to your mighty alliance earlier. I was a fool of thinking CFS/DSMA/StA is weak. If you manage a control a complete Station with only 3 alliances in your own space, thats an example of absolute power! Thats exactly 20% of "your" space actually controlled by you! No other alliance in EVE manages to control 20% of their own space! No they control 100% (and FA even more!), and thats why you, your corp, your alliance and all corp affiliated with any entities within the CFS are imposters. Thats what you are. best regards
Cer'es	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:26:00 - [51] I like the star alliance, good pvper's They should do more politically challenging conflicts! CFS/sta/dsma/abc/McD's do camp a2, i saw them with my own eye! ------------------------------ .Flamenco Haggis. Once a pround member of Xanadu Member of Mercury and Solace [MACE] Currently proud member of ATUK Mon then ya bas!!!
Cer'es	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:26:00 - [52] I like the star alliance, good pvper's They should do more politically challenging conflicts! CFS/sta/dsma/abc/McD's do camp a2, i saw them with my own eye! ------------------------------ .Flamenco Haggis. Once a pround member of Xanadu Member of Mercury and Solace [MACE] Currently proud member of ATUK Mon then ya bas!!!
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Special agent Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE first i dont care if you like ALT posts. second, read Zeframs post. Seems StA and CFS have either a communications problem on their goals or CFS is handling StA as their puppets, what they in fact are. third your reasoning is foolish. it reads like: "Oh well, CFS cant protect their space against noob alliances on their own, so they asked us and DSMA to help them. But even with our help 3 alliances arent enough to fight back those noob alliances. So we asked FA to give us a piece of their space and let us tell everybody its ours. in reward FA controls our stations to scare the bad bad noobs off". -laughs hard- loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. Mr President, excuse my offense to your mighty alliance earlier. I was a fool of thinking CFS/DSMA/StA is weak. If you manage a control a complete Station with only 3 alliances in your own space, thats an example of absolute power! Thats exactly 20% of "your" space actually controlled by you! No other alliance in EVE manages to control 20% of their own space! No they control 100% (and FA even more!), and thats why you, your corp, your alliance and all corp affiliated with any entities within the CFS are imposters. Thats what you are. best regards What the alt said We are cursed men
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:29:00 - [54] Originally by: Special agent Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 09:39:22 Have i mentioned i hate ALT posts . Yes FA control the stations, yes FA gets the tax, yes yes yes. But guess what? No one cares? FA has no military forces in CFS Space, except BA and few finfleet/Xan/big. Why should they close out all? We have good connections with FA corps, why should we have trouble? No one sees the benefit of having FA controling the stations. No other alliances or wannabe alliance try to claim the regions. FA frighten other newcomer alliances and other alliances without home to come down and try to invade CFS space. It doesnt matter if they would be able or not. The fact FA holds the stations, scares most off. And 3,5% isnt very much tbh. But hey iam not CFS, its not my matter, so why should i try to think about any politics. I try to mine my veld out here. And guess what we have really big Veld roids in DELVE first i dont care if you like ALT posts. second, read Zeframs post. Seems StA and CFS have either a communications problem on their goals or CFS is handling StA as their puppets, what they in fact are. third your reasoning is foolish. it reads like: "Oh well, CFS cant protect their space against noob alliances on their own, so they asked us and DSMA to help them. But even with our help 3 alliances arent enough to fight back those noob alliances. So we asked FA to give us a piece of their space and let us tell everybody its ours. in reward FA controls our stations to scare the bad bad noobs off". -laughs hard- loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! Originally by: Conrad FA don't control all the staitons, infact they control only 4 of them now. Mr President, excuse my offense to your mighty alliance earlier. I was a fool of thinking CFS/DSMA/StA is weak. If you manage a control a complete Station with only 3 alliances in your own space, thats an example of absolute power! Thats exactly 20% of "your" space actually controlled by you! No other alliance in EVE manages to control 20% of their own space! No they control 100% (and FA even more!), and thats why you, your corp, your alliance and all corp affiliated with any entities within the CFS are imposters. Thats what you are. best regards What the alt said We are cursed men
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:34:00 - [55] Originally by: Special agent loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! You are right, we dont fight newcomer alliances, we fight the strongest PvP alliance since day one. CA. We fought m0o, we fought almost all pirates in EVE. 2004.10.14 02:05:00 CenZor from Shinra in a Capsule in 31X-RE was killed by Nemesis X & friends 2004.10.14 01:59:00 CenZor from Shinra in a Maller in Y5C-YD was killed by Nemesis X 2004.10.13 22:13:00 RaSatan from RUS-1-UKR in a Arbitrator in 7V-KHW was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.13 22:13:00 Star Hunter from RUS-1-UKR in a Thorax in 7V-KHW was killed by heavyg & friends 2004.10.13 21:27:00 Proto from Shinra in a Crow in T8H-66 was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.13 21:18:00 Toolik from RUS-1-UKR in a Rupture in G-3BOG was killed by De BuG & friends 2004.10.13 21:12:00 WRWR from UA Industry in a Rupture in L-6BE1 was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.11 23:36:00 Silver Ranger from RUS-1-UKR in a Capsule in 9CG6-H was killed by Loka 2004.10.11 23:36:00 Silver Ranger from RUS-1-UKR in a Caracal in 9CG6-H was killed by Loka (on fraps) 2004.10.11 22:40:00 Monkiboy from Zoners in a Capsule in A2-V27 was killed by Loka 2004.10.10 01:32:00 PaKsaN from R.u.S.H. in a Kestrel in 0-WT2D was killed by Marnarok 2004.10.08 22:34:00 RuffRyder from Arcane Technologies in a Apocalypse in Y5C-YD was killed by Haceviudas & friends 2004.10.06 22:34:00 Lord Thor from Vesper Finis in a Rupture in NK-7XO was killed by Vacaburra & friends 2004.10.03 19:11:00 Brian Detaah from Mercury and Solace in a Apocalypse in MJXW-P was killed by Fox Five & friends 2004.10.03 19:11:00 Hugtand from Mercury and Solace in a Apocalypse in MJXW-P was killed by Fox Five & friends 2004.10.03 19:03:00 StiZum Hilidii from Mercury and Solace in a Thorax in MJXW-P was killed by FIRST GENERAL & friends and yes we dont fight ever, we are miner and thought this were NPCs. Dunno who you are, but you seem not to know ** about me or my friends living in CFS space, do you? We left CFS, because we disliked the slow way they handled their issues. Now we are more independend but guess what your are right. WE ARE MUPPET of the CFS CHARTER. We believe in the free spirit and the CFS charter is our charter. If this make us to puppets, then hell yes iam a puppet of the free spirit. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:34:00 - [56] Originally by: Special agent loka, you havent read your posting with the eyes of a PK or pirate havent you? thats a "declaration of weakness". hell loka, if you arent able to fight back "newcomer alliances" with 3 alliances than you are not ment to be in 0.0!! You are right, we dont fight newcomer alliances, we fight the strongest PvP alliance since day one. CA. We fought m0o, we fought almost all pirates in EVE. 2004.10.14 02:05:00 CenZor from Shinra in a Capsule in 31X-RE was killed by Nemesis X & friends 2004.10.14 01:59:00 CenZor from Shinra in a Maller in Y5C-YD was killed by Nemesis X 2004.10.13 22:13:00 RaSatan from RUS-1-UKR in a Arbitrator in 7V-KHW was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.13 22:13:00 Star Hunter from RUS-1-UKR in a Thorax in 7V-KHW was killed by heavyg & friends 2004.10.13 21:27:00 Proto from Shinra in a Crow in T8H-66 was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.13 21:18:00 Toolik from RUS-1-UKR in a Rupture in G-3BOG was killed by De BuG & friends 2004.10.13 21:12:00 WRWR from UA Industry in a Rupture in L-6BE1 was killed by Loka & friends 2004.10.11 23:36:00 Silver Ranger from RUS-1-UKR in a Capsule in 9CG6-H was killed by Loka 2004.10.11 23:36:00 Silver Ranger from RUS-1-UKR in a Caracal in 9CG6-H was killed by Loka (on fraps) 2004.10.11 22:40:00 Monkiboy from Zoners in a Capsule in A2-V27 was killed by Loka 2004.10.10 01:32:00 PaKsaN from R.u.S.H. in a Kestrel in 0-WT2D was killed by Marnarok 2004.10.08 22:34:00 RuffRyder from Arcane Technologies in a Apocalypse in Y5C-YD was killed by Haceviudas & friends 2004.10.06 22:34:00 Lord Thor from Vesper Finis in a Rupture in NK-7XO was killed by Vacaburra & friends 2004.10.03 19:11:00 Brian Detaah from Mercury and Solace in a Apocalypse in MJXW-P was killed by Fox Five & friends 2004.10.03 19:11:00 Hugtand from Mercury and Solace in a Apocalypse in MJXW-P was killed by Fox Five & friends 2004.10.03 19:03:00 StiZum Hilidii from Mercury and Solace in a Thorax in MJXW-P was killed by FIRST GENERAL & friends and yes we dont fight ever, we are miner and thought this were NPCs. Dunno who you are, but you seem not to know ** about me or my friends living in CFS space, do you? We left CFS, because we disliked the slow way they handled their issues. Now we are more independend but guess what your are right. WE ARE MUPPET of the CFS CHARTER. We believe in the free spirit and the CFS charter is our charter. If this make us to puppets, then hell yes iam a puppet of the free spirit. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:40:00 - [57] If you like to call me nub, a moron or a stupid carebear, i wont mind, but dont call one of my friends and fellows a moron, when they fight and bleed for their freedome. I respect the CFS citizens more then anybody else. Avarial jumped into a 13vs1 situation to help me out. Have you heared of other ppl helping their camarads at all cost. I only hear from other, hey we have to leave single ppl behind to safe more. We in CFS believe that every single person is worth to be protected. An we better die together than let anyone behind. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:40:00 - [58] If you like to call me nub, a moron or a stupid carebear, i wont mind, but dont call one of my friends and fellows a moron, when they fight and bleed for their freedome. I respect the CFS citizens more then anybody else. Avarial jumped into a 13vs1 situation to help me out. Have you heared of other ppl helping their camarads at all cost. I only hear from other, hey we have to leave single ppl behind to safe more. We in CFS believe that every single person is worth to be protected. An we better die together than let anyone behind. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:50:00 - [59] atlast cfs grown nutts, keep it going guys, and dont let your next door peeps bose you around you know who you are, ,
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:50:00 - [60] atlast cfs grown nutts, keep it going guys, and dont let your next door peeps bose you around you know who you are, ,
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:53:00 - [61] Originally by: flyertuck atlast cfs grown nutts, keep it going guys, and dont let your next door peeps bose you around you know who you are, , We never lost em, but only keep quite on forums about anything going on in CFS land. That was the first and last time i posted killmails, except i would asked for. Just wanted to give evidence, that the ** CFS and locals most time have to read about CFS and the locals beening the last carebearish alliance/ppl in EVE is bull. Iam member of Star Alliance, defender of DELVE, puppet of the CFS spirit and iam proud of it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:53:00 - [62] Originally by: flyertuck atlast cfs grown nutts, keep it going guys, and dont let your next door peeps bose you around you know who you are, , We never lost em, but only keep quite on forums about anything going on in CFS land. That was the first and last time i posted killmails, except i would asked for. Just wanted to give evidence, that the ** CFS and locals most time have to read about CFS and the locals beening the last carebearish alliance/ppl in EVE is bull. Iam member of Star Alliance, defender of DELVE, puppet of the CFS spirit and iam proud of it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:53:00 - [63] Loka, this wasnt against you, or the fighters of CSF/StA/DSMA. Its was about the ability of the CFS to protect their own space. Which is, as you said in your statement, not given at the time. There are no other reasons for an alliance to give away the control over 80% of their space besides weakness. And if an alliance is to weak to protect what they claim, they dont deserve to own it. If you think that CFS/StA/DSMA are strong enough to control the "CFS Space" then make it CFS space, once and for all!
Special agent	Posted - 2004.10.15 12:53:00 - [64] Loka, this wasnt against you, or the fighters of CSF/StA/DSMA. Its was about the ability of the CFS to protect their own space. Which is, as you said in your statement, not given at the time. There are no other reasons for an alliance to give away the control over 80% of their space besides weakness. And if an alliance is to weak to protect what they claim, they dont deserve to own it. If you think that CFS/StA/DSMA are strong enough to control the "CFS Space" then make it CFS space, once and for all!
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 13:01:00 - [65] Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 13:05:10 without beening the master replyer here i want to tell you for us it is CFS space. I respect FA, also i respect SA and our natural enemys CA. But tbh, they help us as allys, when mighty CA blob moves our way, like we were helping them when they asked for it, but this part no one cares. I want to remember 50 CFS pilots in HED reinforced SA/XETIC/FA peeps. But this story arent the important one. Who is defending CFS space other than CFS, StA, DSMA, IT, ASCI, BA, CELEST came now too to assist, we appriciate it thx and other friends. Why no one criticise the enemys of PA who attacked PA with 3 alliance and 3 of the most feared PVP corps in EVE? Why dont you let us alone with our issues. We never ran from anybody. We never ran scared into empire when we had suffered big losses. We never went to eve-forums complaining how unfair our enemys are. We never troll, scam or flame. We dont smacktalk in local we dont betray. Do you really think that this are sighns of weakness. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.15 13:01:00 - [66] Edited by: Loka on 15/10/2004 13:05:10 without beening the master replyer here i want to tell you for us it is CFS space. I respect FA, also i respect SA and our natural enemys CA. But tbh, they help us as allys, when mighty CA blob moves our way, like we were helping them when they asked for it, but this part no one cares. I want to remember 50 CFS pilots in HED reinforced SA/XETIC/FA peeps. But this story arent the important one. Who is defending CFS space other than CFS, StA, DSMA, IT, ASCI, BA, CELEST came now too to assist, we appriciate it thx and other friends. Why no one criticise the enemys of PA who attacked PA with 3 alliance and 3 of the most feared PVP corps in EVE? Why dont you let us alone with our issues. We never ran from anybody. We never ran scared into empire when we had suffered big losses. We never went to eve-forums complaining how unfair our enemys are. We never troll, scam or flame. We dont smacktalk in local we dont betray. Do you really think that this are sighns of weakness. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 14:08:00 - [67] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 14:11:45 personal views only Personal, i don¦t like FA much... Cuase they are like a Virus... They must infect every region with there Views... in the CFS space matter: FA had a contract with CFS afaik... They can hold the Stations, if they defend delve.... But alle my time in delve i never see any FA, except they Blobed us out, when every CA pilot was far away... They came to claim "there" stations back... They stayed for 3-4 days, then they disapeared... From my point of view... FA break this Contract... And with this breaking, they did lose any rights to hold teh stations... The FA politics is "Diplomatc Piracy" and they aren¦t better then CA and / or any other pirate corp or alliance... They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... What is there next step? are they claiming delve? shoot at any Non FA? We will see... --------------------------------------------------------End of Personal Views Loka... i can understand that you are fighting for delve... and i like the style how you do it... But my point is, sometimes military power changes something, and makes it better... If our and the CFS / DSMA diplomats say, that they didn¦t want to make war... Then i¦ll accept this... and btw.. diplomatic weakness is also weakness... and StA walking the diplomatic way for a long time.. we get everytime kicked ass by FA... P.s. flame me for this post if i¦m online.. but this is my view... and not an official Star Alliance view pps sry for my english ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.15 14:08:00 - [68] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 15/10/2004 14:11:45 personal views only Personal, i don¦t like FA much... Cuase they are like a Virus... They must infect every region with there Views... in the CFS space matter: FA had a contract with CFS afaik... They can hold the Stations, if they defend delve.... But alle my time in delve i never see any FA, except they Blobed us out, when every CA pilot was far away... They came to claim "there" stations back... They stayed for 3-4 days, then they disapeared... From my point of view... FA break this Contract... And with this breaking, they did lose any rights to hold teh stations... The FA politics is "Diplomatc Piracy" and they aren¦t better then CA and / or any other pirate corp or alliance... They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... What is there next step? are they claiming delve? shoot at any Non FA? We will see... --------------------------------------------------------End of Personal Views Loka... i can understand that you are fighting for delve... and i like the style how you do it... But my point is, sometimes military power changes something, and makes it better... If our and the CFS / DSMA diplomats say, that they didn¦t want to make war... Then i¦ll accept this... and btw.. diplomatic weakness is also weakness... and StA walking the diplomatic way for a long time.. we get everytime kicked ass by FA... P.s. flame me for this post if i¦m online.. but this is my view... and not an official Star Alliance view pps sry for my english ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2004.10.15 14:55:00 - [69] Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer.
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2004.10.15 14:55:00 - [70] Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer.
Molaorim Phenaki	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:31:00 - [71] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer. but you're still fa according to the poster above u LOL Quote: They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... dear zagum, u failed! <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll?
Molaorim Phenaki	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:31:00 - [72] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer. but you're still fa according to the poster above u LOL Quote: They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... dear zagum, u failed! <+holyone> what's up with Aneu Angellus Stavros? <&t20> yeah, it's the viagrachocolate egg <+Stavros> nothing much <+Stavros> hes just wrong alot :P <&Hammerhead> isn't that the forum troll?
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:47:00 - [73] You think highly of yourself Mr. Darkfin. Cling to that thought. As far as we're concerned, the CFS have every right to increase the level of organization and control in their own space, and they have the right to do so by whatever means they deem necessary. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:47:00 - [74] You think highly of yourself Mr. Darkfin. Cling to that thought. As far as we're concerned, the CFS have every right to increase the level of organization and control in their own space, and they have the right to do so by whatever means they deem necessary. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:52:00 - [75] Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer. but you're still fa according to the poster above u LOL Quote: They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... dear zagum, u failed! No, the FA did not create a shadow corp at all. MACE split and decided to harass CFS, which in turn earned them a place on the FA KOS list. I'm sure if you repeat it enough times, the conspiracy theory will ring true to you, but you will still be mistaken. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:52:00 - [76] Originally by: Molaorim Phenaki Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Close CFS space? HAHAHA. Here is a hint, FA Fleet has lost a bunch of PVPers in the last month. It is time for CFS or any other would be alliance to claim ownership of the stations in their own space. FA does not have the fleet or the will or the skill left to enforce the bogus treaty. Yes, there are some good pvp corps still in FA, but I would not be too worried. Take a station and see what happens and see who shows up. I don't think too many FA corps would want any more of this bad publicity just to make a few FA member corps richer. but you're still fa according to the poster above u LOL Quote: They formed a Shadow Corp only to kick us out... But they Failed... dear zagum, u failed! No, the FA did not create a shadow corp at all. MACE split and decided to harass CFS, which in turn earned them a place on the FA KOS list. I'm sure if you repeat it enough times, the conspiracy theory will ring true to you, but you will still be mistaken. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
BlackKnight	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:53:00 - [77] Quote: I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning Thanx ben....im flattered Servent of The Scordite Gods
BlackKnight	Posted - 2004.10.15 15:53:00 - [78] Quote: I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning Thanx ben....im flattered Servent of The Scordite Gods
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.10.15 16:03:00 - [79] Edited by: Cowboy on 15/10/2004 16:07:13 Hey we just came down there to fight some pirates and CA folks Were like the 'Team America World Police' of eve Plus Darthy likes to mine there "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.10.15 16:03:00 - [80] Edited by: Cowboy on 15/10/2004 16:07:13 Hey we just came down there to fight some pirates and CA folks Were like the 'Team America World Police' of eve Plus Darthy likes to mine there "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2004.10.15 18:46:00 - [81] Originally by: Alkad Mzu You think highly of yourself Mr. Darkfin. Cling to that thought. As far as we're concerned, the CFS have every right to increase the level of organization and control in their own space, and they have the right to do so by whatever means they deem necessary. Nope, I really do not think that highly of myself, I was referring to the other 30-40 good pvpers and 2-3 excellent leaders who are now gone from FA corps and FA space. Some corps are shells of their former selfs. Blobbing in YZ does not count when trying to exteend your influence to other regions. All FA ever had was the perception that its fleet can fight anyone and anywhere. That perception needs to be tested and proven wrong every once and awhile.
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2004.10.15 18:46:00 - [82] Originally by: Alkad Mzu You think highly of yourself Mr. Darkfin. Cling to that thought. As far as we're concerned, the CFS have every right to increase the level of organization and control in their own space, and they have the right to do so by whatever means they deem necessary. Nope, I really do not think that highly of myself, I was referring to the other 30-40 good pvpers and 2-3 excellent leaders who are now gone from FA corps and FA space. Some corps are shells of their former selfs. Blobbing in YZ does not count when trying to exteend your influence to other regions. All FA ever had was the perception that its fleet can fight anyone and anywhere. That perception needs to be tested and proven wrong every once and awhile.
Uinein	Posted - 2004.10.16 01:19:00 - [83] Edited by: Uinein on 16/10/2004 01:23:17 Can some one name ONE thing that FA has done for CFS that they could not do for themselves? And if they are really your ôfriendsö would they mind that you guys want to have a spit of respect and control your own stations in your own space that you have to defend? How would they react the day you grew a pair and stopped feeding their Ebay/PayPal accounts. WhatÆs the worst thing that can happen, you have to fight? At least you would be fighting for something that is yours. As it stands you have most moronic treaty ever, ôdefend our back sideà defend our stationsà oh yeahà pay us :)ö Not my business but man anyone can see the injustice. Maybe your councilmemberÆs are Fa alts ;p I guess I shouldnÆt be saying these things since I am in the "FA Black Ops Corp"
Uinein	Posted - 2004.10.16 01:19:00 - [84] Edited by: Uinein on 16/10/2004 01:23:17 Can some one name ONE thing that FA has done for CFS that they could not do for themselves? And if they are really your ôfriendsö would they mind that you guys want to have a spit of respect and control your own stations in your own space that you have to defend? How would they react the day you grew a pair and stopped feeding their Ebay/PayPal accounts. WhatÆs the worst thing that can happen, you have to fight? At least you would be fighting for something that is yours. As it stands you have most moronic treaty ever, ôdefend our back sideà defend our stationsà oh yeahà pay us :)ö Not my business but man anyone can see the injustice. Maybe your councilmemberÆs are Fa alts ;p I guess I shouldnÆt be saying these things since I am in the "FA Black Ops Corp"
Araviel	Posted - 2004.10.16 02:29:00 - [85] Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben? EPIC Recruitment post
Araviel	Posted - 2004.10.16 02:29:00 - [86] Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben? EPIC Recruitment post
Dar Saleem	Posted - 2004.10.16 02:46:00 - [87] Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :)
Dar Saleem	Posted - 2004.10.16 02:46:00 - [88] Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :)
Invidious Malinigvious	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:44:00 - [89] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben? wOW, BRAGGING OF A 10:1 KILL, ME SO PROUD!
Invidious Malinigvious	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:44:00 - [90] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben?
Invidious Malinigvious	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:44:00 - [91] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben?
Invidious Malinigvious	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:44:00 - [92] Originally by: Araviel Originally by: benwallace I dunno why people are scared of cfs/fa fa will log off if the don't have a 3:1 and cfs is dead and celts is the only corp wroth mentioning 2004.10.02 02:39:00 Victim: benwallace Corporation: Shinra Destroyed Type: Raven Solar System: HLW-HP System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: psygnosis Security Status: 3.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Thorax Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Busyti Security Status: 3.2 Corporation: Imperium Technologies Ship Type: Stabber Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Bytes Security Status: 1.6 Corporation: Obsidian Asylum Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Araviel (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.5 Corporation: Secutor Mortalis Ship Type: Celestis Weapon Type: Bloodclaw Light Missile I Name: Nez Perces Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: J.H.E.N.R Ship Type: Blackbird Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Cyther Security Status: 2.6 Corporation: Ominous Corp Ship Type: Stiletto Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Boldyn Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Incursus Weapon Type: Unknown Name: DeBz Security Status: -0.5 Corporation: NOVA AMMO CORP. Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Droewa Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Dark Centuri Inc. Ship Type: Punisher Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Steel Brightblabe Security Status: 2.9 Corporation: Black Avatar Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown where you afk when that happend ben? wOW, BRAGGING OF A 10:1 KILL, ME SO PROUD!
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:53:00 - [93] hehe 10:1 don't make me post the kill mail of all the people I killed in cfs space in 17 days plus one of the fight it was 2:1 you guys and I trashed that raptor and rifter(rifter ran) not to smart to take on a hawk in a ceptor under 10km --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.16 03:53:00 - [94] hehe 10:1 don't make me post the kill mail of all the people I killed in cfs space in 17 days plus one of the fight it was 2:1 you guys and I trashed that raptor and rifter(rifter ran) not to smart to take on a hawk in a ceptor under 10km --------------------------
Xziled	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:08:00 - [95] Edited by: Xziled on 16/10/2004 04:11:17 most people could probably post the same sized list if not bigger of their kills in curse space, that list would include you a few times. and all the kills you would post would be gankings also, ive seen you try to get solo kills before ben, doesn't turn out good on your end.
Xziled	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:08:00 - [96] Edited by: Xziled on 16/10/2004 04:11:17 most people could probably post the same sized list if not bigger of their kills in curse space, that list would include you a few times. and all the kills you would post would be gankings also, ive seen you try to get solo kills before ben, doesn't turn out good on your end.
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:16:00 - [97] hehe your saying that becuase I tried to fight you thorax but you had an webber and destroyed my 300k frigate wow I got like 50 of those --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:16:00 - [98] hehe your saying that becuase I tried to fight you thorax but you had an webber and destroyed my 300k frigate wow I got like 50 of those --------------------------
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:56:00 - [99] Edited by: Cowboy on 16/10/2004 04:59:57 Originally by: Dar Saleem Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :) Don't worry Ms. Lame alt the full story will be told. "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.10.16 04:56:00 - [100] Edited by: Cowboy on 16/10/2004 04:59:57 Originally by: Dar Saleem Originally by: Kickass I hope your new CFS friendly corporation Celestial Apocolipse dont kill to many of you once they find out you are pirates by their description. Since you are making your space closed, and fire on neutrals it is considered piracy by Celest. Bring on the Celest forum trolls.... Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :) Don't worry Ms. Lame alt the full story will be told. "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Jonkai	Posted - 2004.10.16 05:48:00 - [101] Originally by: Dar Saleem Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :) 1. We were heavily outnumbered when you opened fire on us. 2. We lost 6 Battleships and 2 Frigs, where as you lost 4 BS's and 1 Frig - not bad considering. Was good fun though mucho enjoyed it. Looking forward to fighting you some more.
Jonkai	Posted - 2004.10.16 05:48:00 - [102] Originally by: Dar Saleem Celestial apoc have thier own problems. They just lost 6 BS and 2 assault frigates to SA forces in Hed-gp when they opened fire on a Atuk member in gang with the SA. The SA forces told them to stop shooting and they didn't so SA destroyed them. Guess they are at war now, more corps fighting down south :) 1. We were heavily outnumbered when you opened fire on us. 2. We lost 6 Battleships and 2 Frigs, where as you lost 4 BS's and 1 Frig - not bad considering. Was good fun though mucho enjoyed it. Looking forward to fighting you some more.
Karrimdra	Posted - 2004.10.16 09:22:00 - [103] Originally by: benwallace hehe 10:1 don't make me post the kill mail of all the people I killed in cfs space in 17 days plus one of the fight it was 2:1 you guys and I trashed that raptor and rifter(rifter ran) not to smart to take on a hawk in a ceptor under 10km well, since you are 1337 and they teh noobs, they ganked you with frigs and cruisers, regardless of numbers. Wereb't you carrying your fof's? From nothing to something in just one corp!
Karrimdra	Posted - 2004.10.16 09:22:00 - [104] Originally by: benwallace hehe 10:1 don't make me post the kill mail of all the people I killed in cfs space in 17 days plus one of the fight it was 2:1 you guys and I trashed that raptor and rifter(rifter ran) not to smart to take on a hawk in a ceptor under 10km well, since you are 1337 and they teh noobs, they ganked you with frigs and cruisers, regardless of numbers. Wereb't you carrying your fof's? From nothing to something in just one corp!
Kindathey	Posted - 2004.10.16 14:45:00 - [105] Please try to stay calm and civil in here, there's a small fire rising up here EVE Forum Rules - Mail the mods!
Kindathey	Posted - 2004.10.16 14:45:00 - [106] Please try to stay calm and civil in here, there's a small fire rising up here EVE Forum Rules - Mail the mods!
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.16 14:47:00 - [107] Originally by: Kindathey there's a small fire rising up here it¦s a GREAT fire rising up... i swear.. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.16 14:47:00 - [108] Originally by: Kindathey there's a small fire rising up here it¦s a GREAT fire rising up... i swear.. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.10.16 21:21:00 - [109] These changes are needed in CFS space. I spent alot of time there. We had 50+ in local in Tpar, and 20 would come to defend... maybe if everyone came to arms, we might fair better and make up for lack of the pvp skills of people like the CA. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.10.16 21:21:00 - [110] These changes are needed in CFS space. I spent alot of time there. We had 50+ in local in Tpar, and 20 would come to defend... maybe if everyone came to arms, we might fair better and make up for lack of the pvp skills of people like the CA. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.10.17 16:13:00 - [111] Originally by: Katya Detia These changes are needed in CFS space. I spent alot of time there. We had 50+ in local in Tpar, and 20 would come to defend... maybe if everyone came to arms, we might fair better and make up for lack of the pvp skills of people like the CA. I was in few tpar blobs, and one thing I spoted. There was no organization. It almost looked like Im in a gang with my corp m8 :) Tpar inhabitans (CFS, DSMA and neutrals corp) need to organize some kind of military wing. I dont see any problem joining organized fleet who know what is doing. ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
MalaMo	Posted - 2004.10.17 16:13:00 - [112] Originally by: Katya Detia These changes are needed in CFS space. I spent alot of time there. We had 50+ in local in Tpar, and 20 would come to defend... maybe if everyone came to arms, we might fair better and make up for lack of the pvp skills of people like the CA. I was in few tpar blobs, and one thing I spoted. There was no organization. It almost looked like Im in a gang with my corp m8 :) Tpar inhabitans (CFS, DSMA and neutrals corp) need to organize some kind of military wing. I dont see any problem joining organized fleet who know what is doing. ------------- Tanya Raskov > e stvarno minmatar zidaju brodove tako sto odlome deo fabrike i nakace motore
Kazu'ul	Posted - 2004.11.18 02:54:00 - [113] So.... are hostilities between us )QDF( and CFS, etc. still going to be active? I've got things at the TPAR station that I'd like to get sometime, but other than the hostile takeover I participated in awhile ago, there is no way for me to dock at that station as far as I know... Any suggestions on what I should do from anyone? I'm also confused by the first post that stated that CFS members should participate in the defense with the QDF..... that may just be outdated....
Kazu'ul	Posted - 2004.11.18 02:54:00 - [114] So.... are hostilities between us )QDF( and CFS, etc. still going to be active? I've got things at the TPAR station that I'd like to get sometime, but other than the hostile takeover I participated in awhile ago, there is no way for me to dock at that station as far as I know... Any suggestions on what I should do from anyone? I'm also confused by the first post that stated that CFS members should participate in the defense with the QDF..... that may just be outdated....
DeGrand	Posted - 2004.11.18 11:21:00 - [115] Edited by: DeGrand on 18/11/2004 11:25:46 If your QDF then you can dock in TPAR, its currently not controlled by UFS(contact the owners beforehand if you wanna make sure that the standings have been set correctly). Oh and the UFS guys will very likely still shoot ya if they happen to run into you.
DeGrand	Posted - 2004.11.18 11:21:00 - [116] Edited by: DeGrand on 18/11/2004 11:25:46 If your QDF then you can dock in TPAR, its currently not controlled by UFS(contact the owners beforehand if you wanna make sure that the standings have been set correctly). Oh and the UFS guys will very likely still shoot ya if they happen to run into you.
Icarus100	Posted - 2004.11.18 13:53:00 - [117] Originally by: Kazu'ul So.... are hostilities between us )QDF( and CFS, etc. still going to be active? I've got things at the TPAR station that I'd like to get sometime, but other than the hostile takeover I participated in awhile ago, there is no way for me to dock at that station as far as I know... Any suggestions on what I should do from anyone? I'm also confused by the first post that stated that CFS members should participate in the defense with the QDF..... that may just be outdated.... Dude, last response was more than a month ago? - My hair is ugly..
Icarus100	Posted - 2004.11.18 13:53:00 - [118] Originally by: Kazu'ul So.... are hostilities between us )QDF( and CFS, etc. still going to be active? I've got things at the TPAR station that I'd like to get sometime, but other than the hostile takeover I participated in awhile ago, there is no way for me to dock at that station as far as I know... Any suggestions on what I should do from anyone? I'm also confused by the first post that stated that CFS members should participate in the defense with the QDF..... that may just be outdated.... Dude, last response was more than a month ago? - My hair is ugly..
Chucky	Posted - 2004.11.18 15:17:00 - [119] ya the loggin, gank some miners, loggout tatic is still being used by CFS/DSMA in Peroid Basis. Yawn ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Chucky	Posted - 2004.11.18 15:17:00 - [120] ya the loggin, gank some miners, loggout tatic is still being used by CFS/DSMA in Peroid Basis. Yawn ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.11.18 16:42:00 - [121] Wow... I can't believe this post came back to life. It is interesting, for posterity, to start at the beginning of this post and read all the way through it. Makes things much more clear as to what may have went on that caused the war. Good history lesson to be learned if you read every post and check the corporations of those posting. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.11.18 16:42:00 - [122] Wow... I can't believe this post came back to life. It is interesting, for posterity, to start at the beginning of this post and read all the way through it. Makes things much more clear as to what may have went on that caused the war. Good history lesson to be learned if you read every post and check the corporations of those posting. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Kujin	Posted - 2004.11.18 19:28:00 - [123] Originally by: Sternburg Export No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... Please show me the daily a2 defence of CFS guys.... Only thing i see there is KROM without any CFS related bio or info, looking like they¦re killing everything approaching the gate towards Kaira... ASUYA INC.
Kujin	Posted - 2004.11.18 19:28:00 - [124] Originally by: Sternburg Export No serious.... Cfs ain¦t dead... They stand and defend a2 daily... i never saw more CFS in delve / querious like this days... And our "Elta" never logs.. They fight even if they are outnumbered... Please show me the daily a2 defence of CFS guys.... Only thing i see there is KROM without any CFS related bio or info, looking like they¦re killing everything approaching the gate towards Kaira... ASUYA INC.
FoxHunt	Posted - 2004.11.18 22:27:00 - [125] It's impossible to say that anybody controls A2...it's complete anarchy for the most part. At any time in the week you can run across CA, SA, QDF, FA, UFS, Krom, and any assortment thereof. Fox "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
FoxHunt	Posted - 2004.11.18 22:27:00 - [126] It's impossible to say that anybody controls A2...it's complete anarchy for the most part. At any time in the week you can run across CA, SA, QDF, FA, UFS, Krom, and any assortment thereof. Fox "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
Chucky	Posted - 2004.11.19 23:23:00 - [127] A2 has been in QDF control the vast majority of the times I've passed through there in the last month ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Chucky	Posted - 2004.11.19 23:23:00 - [128] A2 has been in QDF control the vast majority of the times I've passed through there in the last month ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2004.11.20 21:13:00 - [129] i like cake
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2004.11.20 21:13:00 - [130] i like cake
Tamora	Posted - 2004.11.21 02:08:00 - [131] you nicked my sig
Tamora	Posted - 2004.11.21 02:08:00 - [132] you nicked my sig
Kazu'ul	Posted - 2004.12.25 21:52:00 - [133] QDF owns A2, b i t c h e s
Kazu'ul	Posted - 2004.12.25 21:52:00 - [134] QDF owns A2, b i t c h e s
The Altmeister	Posted - 2004.12.25 22:04:00 - [135] Originally by: Kazu'ul QDF owns A2, b i t c h e s Someone has obviously been at the Christmas Sherry
The Altmeister	Posted - 2004.12.25 22:04:00 - [136] Originally by: Kazu'ul QDF owns A2, b i t c h e s Someone has obviously been at the Christmas Sherry
Rehen	Posted - 2004.12.25 22:43:00 - [137] Edited by: Rehen on 25/12/2004 22:51:40 Edited by: Rehen on 25/12/2004 22:48:38 um why is this dead topic back again ????? just for note fix said 1 of the reasons cfs was usless is that we consentrated what defence we had on a2 and fix thought that was bad and evil ,we of sould be camping there stations to defend the area its just good fix tatics. And now they are doing ops garding a2 like we did by the sounds of it, now stop dreging up this post, your big and clever and i hope you all the best rehen (currently bord and looking for a fight)
Rehen	Posted - 2004.12.25 22:43:00 - [138] Edited by: Rehen on 25/12/2004 22:51:40 Edited by: Rehen on 25/12/2004 22:48:38 um why is this dead topic back again ????? just for note fix said 1 of the reasons cfs was usless is that we consentrated what defence we had on a2 and fix thought that was bad and evil ,we of sould be camping there stations to defend the area its just good fix tatics. And now they are doing ops garding a2 like we did by the sounds of it, now stop dreging up this post, your big and clever and i hope you all the best rehen (currently bord and looking for a fight)
Kazu'ul	Posted - 2005.01.05 02:55:00 - [139] put up your dukes YARR
Hquesinovium	Posted - 2005.01.05 04:06:00 - [140] come on guys, give credit to those of DSMA/CFS, some of the few who stood up with poor odds and did thier best. Thier odds got even worse when several corps got paid off or quit the alliance's. Dont know why this is being dug up..... Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.

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