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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:26:00 -
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Some missions behind acceleration gates are restricted to a maximum of certain ship sizes, like only frigates-or-smaller, pr only cruisers-or-smaller.
How does that work with T2 ships? Does a T2 destroyer count as a destroyer, a cruiser or even a battlecruier?
Also, how common are size-restricted missions?
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Cleopatty
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:29:00 -
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if your running lvl 1 or lvl 2 small ships work better for killing small rats. most allow t2 ships, should give you a list of what will pass through.
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:32:00 -
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Mostly I'm thinking about fitting my Hawk assault frigate, or buying myself a Flycatcher, to help newer players on level 1 or level 2 missions. I'd particularly like to do the Flycatcher thing. How often wouldn't I be able to participate?
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.27 00:26:00 -
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Rarely I would think. Most of them are limited by hull size, so a destroyer or assault frigate can typically get through the gates. The most well known one, I think, is the level 1 version of Worlds Collide. It does allow destroyers through the gate. And while I've never tried it with either my Harpy or a Hawk, I'm pretty sure they'd make it. The only one I've definitely heard of that limits it to T1 is in a COSMOS site. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Warezmy Carr
Gallente Pod Pilots Association
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:05:00 -
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Size restrictions are determined by the base hull of the ship.
Assault Ship = frigate hull Interdictor = destroyer hull Heavy Assault Ship or Logistics = cruiser hull etc. -- Warezmy Carr's Skills: Here |
Niitsitapi
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:35:00 -
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The popup usually tells you what size ships are allowed, often the mission description will say small ship so assume cruiser and down.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr Imperial Crusade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:49:00 -
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There are several level one missions with size restrictions.
There are/were a few higher level missions with size restrictions too.
There are handful of level ones that only let in t1 Cruisers, destroyers and frigates, Not t2 frigates.
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Alsyth
Astromechanica Maxima
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Alsyth on 28/08/2009 00:22:24 Edited by: Alsyth on 28/08/2009 00:21:58
Originally by: Kathryn Dougans There are handful of level ones that only let in t1 Cruisers, destroyers and frigates, Not t2 frigates.
Are you really sure of that ?
I personnally never encountered any gate that would let in a TI hull but not its TII version.
And all the lvl1 missions I found that had gate didn't let a cruiser in.
I belive it's something like :
lvl1 mission : if there is a gate, it will let frigate/destroyer hull in (TI or TII doesn't matter) lvl2 mission : the same, add cruiser lvl3 mission : the same, add battlecruiser lvl4 mission : the same, add battleship lvl5 mission : same as lvl4 (no carrier will be allowed to jump through the gate)
For complexes I think it's something like :
IF there is a gate, then it will let in : DED 1 : frigate (TI/TII doesn't matter) DED 2 : add Destroyer (TI/TII) DED 3 : add Cruiser (...) DED 4 : add BC (...) DED 5 : add BS (...) above : I don't know.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:33:00 -
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I've heard of one in a COSMOS complex that would only let Tech 1 frigates/destroyers in. If you try to use one that you cannot, it pops up a list of what ships can use the gate, and it lists them by class rather than hull size. It might say, for example: Frigates, Assault Ships, Electronic Attack Ships, Destroyers, Interdictors, Covert Ops, Stealth Bombers, Rookie Ships. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Kezzle
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Posted - 2009.08.28 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Alsyth
I belive it's something like :
lvl1 mission : if there is a gate, it will let frigate/destroyer hull in (TI or TII doesn't matter)
I've heard a lot of people talk about doing L1s in a cruiser.
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lvl2 mission : the same, add cruiser
I didn't run into any gates that stopped my 'Cane while I was doing L2 missions. I'm sure there are some, I wasn't doing them for very long, but Batttlecruisers are not excluded by default. I think if there is a limit, it's going to be one higher than the "recommended" size class for the mission level.
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Alsyth
Astromechanica Maxima
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Alsyth on 28/08/2009 11:22:23 Edited by: Alsyth on 28/08/2009 11:22:01
Originally by: Gavin DeVries I've heard of one in a COSMOS complex that would only let Tech 1 frigates/destroyers in. If you try to use one that you cannot, it pops up a list of what ships can use the gate, and it lists them by class rather than hull size. It might say, for example: Frigates, Assault Ships, Electronic Attack Ships, Destroyers, Interdictors, Covert Ops, Stealth Bombers, Rookie Ships.
I thind DED complexes gates always put it that way. At least the few (5 maybe ?) that refused my ship were. But each time they listed TI and TII ships that are the same hull size. Maybe some don't.
Originally by: Kezzle
I've heard a lot of people talk about doing L1s in a cruiser.
Yes, but when there is no gate, I think ?
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I didn't run into any gates that stopped my 'Cane while I was doing L2 missions. I'm sure there are some, I wasn't doing them for very long, but Batttlecruisers are not excluded by default. I think if there is a limit, it's going to be one higher than the "recommended" size class for the mission level.
All the lvl2 mission gates I tried in my Drake refused it... I'm probably unlucky.
By the way, it deserves a test...
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr Imperial Crusade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alsyth
Originally by: Kathryn Dougans There are handful of level ones that only let in t1 Cruisers, destroyers and frigates, Not t2 frigates.
Are you really sure of that ?
Yes. Although it may have been changed since I encountered it.
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=NewSlaves1
One of the mission gates only accepts Frigate, Cruiser, Destroyer. Assault frigates will not fit.
There may be one or two other missions like that, but that's the only one that I personally have encountered and can remember for sure.
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Nierna
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:21:00 -
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ive had DED 2-10 that would let in my caracal but not my cerberus.
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Agent Darko
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:28:00 -
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Yeah i can confirm that there are few level 2 missions that won't allow a T2 frigate in. I've been denied at the accel gate while flying in my Ishkur...
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