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MyBankingAlt
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Posted - 2009.08.27 05:52:00 -
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Ok, obviously IÆm using an alt to make this post; in fact I donÆt intend to use any names. But first let me say I am proud to be part of the Caldari militia. After playing this game for years and playing it with many different approaches, I have yet to find a group of individuals as zealous about eve as the squids despite whatever outside opinions may exist. And yes, I have spent time in 0.0.
With over 5000 characters enlisted of course not all of them are active, some are alts and some likely just never participate but regardless of that there are a lot of players from different cultures, backgrounds and with different personalities interacting within the Caldari militia.
Despite that, virtually everyone gets along! At least to the extent that conversation can remain civil and any disputes that arise are minor and can be worked through or let go. WITH ONE EXCEPTION!
There is one particular individual that is constantly rude, disruptive and causes everyone (or nearly everyone) else strife. He is so opinionated and arrogant that should one have a setup he doesnÆt like, he will insult that person for an hour or more on end, clogging up militia chat making it difficult for people to give/receive intel.
WhatÆs worse is he has a way of bringing out the worst in others, pushing their buttons until militia chat becomes something so ugly I minimize it altogether. He causes turmoil any time he is on and it seems no conversation can go without his opinion being injected.
He has even blown up at least one fellow militia members ship, without compensating the victim (or apologizing afaik). The corp he is a part of seems to be full of quality pvpÆers and decent enough guys, but they seem unwilling to do anything about his behavior.
So I wonder what recourse is there then? Would it be possible (provided there were enough complaints) to get CCP to remove/ban him from the militia? Would it be possible for enough of us to gather together and shun/block him until he leaves?
Anyone else have any ideaÆs on how to deal with such a difficult individual? I would prefer to keep it civil and certainly any action taken needs to be within ccpÆs rules but this person is intolerable and I know IÆm not the only one that feels this way.
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Ran Khanon
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:04:00 -
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This is obviously a Gallente spy, specialized in P-war and it is your noble task to go out and prove it.
Also, there is the block option, where right clicking on someones name allows one to gag that person to oneself.
Alternatively, there is the "shrugging" approach, where you, as the annoyed party, can try to vigorously shake your shoulders up and down while breathing deeply to relieve yourself of all built up frustration. Try it.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 27/08/2009 06:52:26
Right-click, lock target, hit F1-F8. Problem solved.
And no, CCP will not do your job for you and remove him. Either deal with it yourself, or go whine to your fellow militia carebears about it (preferably somewhere that the rest of us don't have to listen).
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MyBankingAlt
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Ran Khanon
This is obviously a Gallente spy, specialized in P-war and it is your noble task to go out and prove it.
Also, there is the block option, where right clicking on someones name allows one to gag that person to oneself.
Alternatively, there is the "shrugging" approach, where you, as the annoyed party, can try to vigorously shake your shoulders up and down while breathing deeply to relieve yourself of all built up frustration. Try it.
I'm pretty sure you were just joking, but although he certainly has a lot of bad traits I do not think this person is a spy. That being said I still don't trust him not to turn against his allies on a whim. I've been doing the shrugging approach for sometime (even pulled a few muscles doing it) And my concerns are not only for myself but the militia in general, if we all block him that could probably work but because he breeds such a negative attitude just blocking him myself would do little, if any, good.
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Rouge Drone
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:11:00 -
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What's the matter with kids these days? The correct response to any situation that arises in eve is a quick podding.
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Future Mutant
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:16:00 -
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I agree with the posters above- if you pod the guy repeatedly he will eventually realize how much hes loved.
Yet another problem solved with violence! Every question in this game can be answered in two ways-
1/ right click
2/ pod them
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:25:00 -
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Petition him for harassment if he continues to harass you.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: MyBankingAlt
Ok, obviously IÆm using an alt to make this post;
Obviously not a man enough to post with your main.
Quote:
There is one particular individual that is constantly rude, disruptive and causes everyone (or nearly everyone) else strife. He is so opinionated and arrogant that should one have a setup he doesnÆt like, he will insult that person for an hour or more on end, clogging up militia chat making it difficult for people to give/receive intel.
WhatÆs worse is he has a way of bringing out the worst in others, pushing their buttons until militia chat becomes something so ugly I minimize it altogether. He causes turmoil any time he is on and it seems no conversation can go without his opinion being injected.
He has even blown up at least one fellow militia members ship, without compensating the victim (or apologizing afaik). The corp he is a part of seems to be full of quality pvpÆers and decent enough guys, but they seem unwilling to do anything about his behavior.
So I wonder what recourse is there then? Would it be possible (provided there were enough complaints) to get CCP to remove/ban him from the militia? Would it be possible for enough of us to gather together and shun/block him until he leaves?
Anyone else have any ideaÆs on how to deal with such a difficult individual? I would prefer to keep it civil and certainly any action taken needs to be within ccpÆs rules but this person is intolerable and I know IÆm not the only one that feels this way.
The recourse is to man up and wardec his corp till they fire him or leave militia. Whining to CCP just make you look like a baby going to mommy.
The only way for a militia to self police itself is to wardec offenders.
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.27 12:40:00 -
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Just for information (taken from the wiki): Quote:
Shooting your own FW militia member/container/wreck will result in a security status hit, CONCORD aggression-flagging in high-security space, and a standing hit with your own faction.
so shooting or podding him if he's in FW...is not a good idea. but nothing holds him from podding him with a character outside FW..if I get his story right
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.27 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: MyBankingAlt
Ok, obviously IÆm using an alt to make this post; in fact I donÆt intend to use any names. But first let me say I am proud to be part of the Caldari militia.
Contradiction spotted off the port bow captain.
How about a little name and shame ???
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Jin Gle
Asgardreia
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:29:00 -
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SquidMil sounds pretty terrible
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Kilette Dark
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kilette Dark on 27/08/2009 14:31:35
Maybe he IS right.
Maybe he needs to spend an hour going on about a fitting being ****, cos it is ****, and the other pilot is refusing to see it.
Maybe his fellow corp members are quality PVPers cos HE TAUGHT them to be so, and maybe the reason they seem unwilling to do anything about his behavior, is because they know he IS always right, and he will make players better PVPers if they listen to him
Albert Einstein:
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kilette Dark
Edited by: Kilette Dark on 27/08/2009 14:31:35
Maybe he IS right.
Maybe he needs to spend an hour going on about a fitting being ****, cos it is ****, and the other pilot is refusing to see it.
Maybe his fellow corp members are quality PVPers cos HE TAUGHT them to be so, and maybe the reason they seem unwilling to do anything about his behavior, is because they know he IS always right, and he will make players better PVPers if they listen to him
Albert Einstein:
Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.
maybe he's still a peen, right or not that needs to be taken to the back of the barn and shot (in game)
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Zen Guerrilla
Minmatar
Mindfunk
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:15:00 -
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We have a guy like that in the Minnie militia. He can be a real pain in the ass, he keeps wardeccing corps, people, attacks whoever he can and just generally likes to screw with ****ty game mechanics. Not to forget milita chat spam.
I just put people like that on ignore. Problem solved. Usually it's just attention *****s and once they won't get that attention they get bored and troll elsewhere.
In the end, nothing stops you from just wardeccing the guy if ignore isn't enough for you. CCP got nothing to do with it. (Apart from the ****ty game mechanics, but we gotta live with those  )
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:32:00 -
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Psyflame? 
FRANK??? 
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council
Seposita Astrum
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:02:00 -
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Dude, just block him . . . . .
Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
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MaxxOmega
Caldari
Rukongai
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kilette Dark
Maybe he IS right.
Maybe he needs to spend an hour going on about a fitting being ****, cos it is ****, and the other pilot is refusing to see it.
Maybe his fellow corp members are quality PVPers cos HE TAUGHT them to be so, and maybe the reason they seem unwilling to do anything about his behavior, is because they know he IS always right, and he will make players better PVPers if they listen to him
And then again maybe he is just a festering steaming pile of ****...
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kilette Dark
Albert Einstein:
Great spirits have always found violent opposition ...
But not every spirit that found violent opposition is that great.
If the person in question is Psyflame, I'd not mess with him when using your main. He has various alts, friends and minions within militia and will use them all to psych out any opponent or critic. He'll accuse you of being a spy or things that you never did and will confirm this accusation with his alts and footmen. You will be lambasted by people that you didn't know before and kicked from fleets. Neutrals will attack you in chat because they will see a good opportunity to gain his benevolence, by attacking his opponents.
You can't fight someone who is that well connected. Just accept his supremacy and never question his words or authority as a militia CEO. Just obey and kiss his ass, like the rest of the militia, or leave.
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Kaethe Kollwitz
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Psyflame?
+1
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Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:10:00 -
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Alternatively, Get all those guys who support you in a chat channel with the offenders CEO of corp and present your arguments there for the CEO to have a word with his corpie and bring him into line.
+++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.28 02:09:00 -
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Dude I know exactly who you are talking about! That guy is a total jerk! Let's call him Mr X so we don't hurt any feelings.
Once he told me to switch my dps hawk and fly a blackbird or interceptor! That's ridiculous!
He is always bossing militia people around. He tells them to train for interceptors--but we just want to use sniper drakes! I think if you ask really nicely, the other guy won't warp away.  It's kind of an honour-point system.
He tells us to use stupid ships like basilisks, and he tells us that we should fit shield extenders on our pvp ships instead of shield rechargers. And oh man maaaannn. He told me to fit ballistic control units on my DRAKE. How am I going to tank the enemy fire if I don't have shield power relays?!? What a bully!
But then there is the ship fittings. Oh man this guy is unbearable!
He told this one guy to take the armor rep off his raven. That guy told him off and he was completely right! Mr X was being a JERK policing other people's ship fittings.
Sadly the raven still died though:
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=78276
Then there was another time I remember Mr X was being SUPER MEAN.
He told this one prophecy pilot to change his fit or leave fleet. Mr X was FC, but honestly he had no right to make threats that extreme.
Without the support of the fleet, the poor prophecy pilot died in tama, I still blame Mr X to this day:
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3839754
There are some other times I remember Mr X being super rude about ship fittings. There was a really cool guy in a rokh with an officer armor repairer (super cool!!) and some officer cruise missile launchers. He was sniping with it and it was awesome
Mr X was sooooo rude in militia chat. He called him names when the rokh died, and we really did not approve.
Then there was this other time where we think Mr X was SO mean he made someone LEAVE the militia. There was this picture going around:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2927/udan.png
and Mr X had the nerve to insult the guy!! I mean, lots of people in militia are alts, so what; this guy was just playing the game how he wanted!!
In short, I think Mr X should be kicked out of the militia because he is obviously too mean to the WoW players. 
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.08.28 04:14:00 -
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lol, I think I like this Mr X guy..
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.28 05:11:00 -
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Can't be Psyflame as the OP said 'Mr. X' was a decent pvper.
Lol at the Udan app tho, never saw that one before. Shoulda warped him to a pos tbh.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.08.28 05:44:00 -
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Mr. X for president
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.08.28 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Psyflame
I'm so awesome because I caught some newbs with bad fittings. ... crap ...
And oh man maaaannn. He told me to fit ballistic control units on my DRAKE. ... tl;dr
You try to be funny, but you aren't.
Everyone in militia knows how important ballistic controls, magnetic field stabilizers or heat sinks are. Except you:
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3822162
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3768454
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3822160
Why don't you practise what you preach ?
In fleets you are the first one to chicken out when the going gets tough. You never risk anything and leave your fleet members behind in difficult situations, in order to have an awesome kill-death rate on the killboard. I prefer to fly with a newb that has bad fittings but actually fights when required, instead of a coward with the right fitting, who isn't there when you need him.
Militia is about fun pvp, you didn't pay a single isk for someones ship so it's none of your business what they fly. In a tight fight you'll abscond anyways. Do us a favour and join a 0.0 alliance if you are so elite. Oh wait, you already tried but was kicked out due bad behaviour.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Psyflame on 28/08/2009 07:25:11
Originally by: Suukovesta
Edited by: Suukovesta on 28/08/2009 06:34:10
You try to be funny, but you aren't.
What?
This thread is about that mean guy Mr X. Who are you and why are you mad at me? I'm just agreeing with OP that Mr X is mean.
Originally by: Suukovesta
Everyone in militia knows how important ballistic controls, magnetic field stabilizers or heat sinks are. Except you:
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3822162
Why don't you practise what you preach ?
Do ho ho ho. Chill out bro, your rage is showing.
BYDI has said on multiple occasions that "psyflame will always be primary, no matter what." This has been confirmed by several current and former BYDI members.
If I am going to be primary, I will fit loltanked battleships and let them waste their dps on me.
Your post is proof enough to me that it works.
Interesting that none of my other armageddons are fit like that, only ships used against BYDI:
1) http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=89835
2) http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=130699
3) http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=104954
4) http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=102012
5) http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=95621
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Suukovesta
You try to be funny, but you aren't.
Everyone in militia knows how important ballistic controls, magnetic field stabilizers or heat sinks are. Except you:
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3822162
Why don't you practise what you preach ?
In fleets you are the first one to chicken out when the going gets tough. You never risk anything and leave your fleet members behind in difficult situations, in order to have an awesome kill-death rate on the killboard. I prefer to fly with a newb that has bad fittings but actually fights when required, instead of a coward with the right fitting, who isn't there when you need him.
Militia is about fun pvp, you didn't pay a single isk for someones ship so it's none of your business what they fly. In a tight fight you'll abscond anyways. Do us a favour and join a 0.0 alliance if you are so elite. Oh wait, you already tried but was kicked out due bad behaviour.
First and foremost, thats what we call a buffer tank. Therefore the damage mods come second. Duh hoi.
FCs have every right to ask members of their fleet to get certain ships with certain fits. While I usually do not scan peoples set ups, what I have seen lately may make me start doing it again. As an FC you are in charge of a fleet, its your fight to win or lose because no one is going to remember the specific people in the fight, but they sure as hell will remember the FC.
Mr. X rocks the boat when he tells people that fitting 5 salvagers on a Caracal is not going to get them in a fleet. Much of what he says is common sense. He has PVP'd more than the majority of the Militia and knows more than most. If he was completely wrong, you would see other veteran pvpers telling him so, which generally doesn't happen.
You feed the flames of this drama when you make posts like this, or accuse him of doing one thing or another in Fleets, simply because you KNOW he doesn't like you. The biggest annoyance is the fact people bring this drama into fleet chats. No proof, just pure speculation and arguements. If he tells you your set up is wrong and suggests something else, don't blow up and argue it in militia, ask another veteran pvper if hes right. End of story.
Grow up folks.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Psyflame on 28/08/2009 07:34:53
Originally by: Suukovesta
Militia is about fun pvp, you didn't pay a single isk for someones ship so it's none of your business what they fly. In a tight fight you'll abscond anyways.
I agree completely!
Mr X was telling this guy
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3839754
to change his ship fitting or he couldn't fly in a MILITIA fleet. I don't care if Mr X was FC, it is ridiculous to tell a person in Caldari militia that they can't fly in a militia fleet just because of their fit! Mr X didn't pay for that ship! Why is it his business what people fly in a fleet!
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 28/08/2009 07:38:46
Originally by: Corewin
First and foremost, thats what we call a buffer tank. Therefore the damage mods come second. Duh hoi.
No, it's called a bad setup. Even ignoring the lack of T2 guns, that's a hilariously bad Armageddon setup, and completely useless for anything other than generating comedy killmails. The Armageddon is a gank ship, so fit it like one.
OTOH, it's marginally better than many of the other militia comedy killmails, so as they say, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
As for the rest of the thread, it's just another example of why the militia sucks. Fortunately there is an easy solution:
1) Put alts in the Gallente militia.
2) Invite the alts to your gang.
3) Warp to the annoying pest and kill him, including his pod.
4) Repeat until he quits the game and goes back to WoW.
Problem solved.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Corewin on 28/08/2009 07:45:17
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 28/08/2009 07:38:46
Originally by: Corewin
First and foremost, thats what we call a buffer tank. Therefore the damage mods come second. Duh hoi.
No, it's called a bad setup. Even ignoring the lack of T2 guns, that's a hilariously bad Armageddon setup, and completely useless for anything other than generating comedy killmails. The Armageddon is a gank ship, so fit it like one.
Obvious Bait Geddon is Obvious
EDIT: Ok I'll detail this. Why on earth would someone put T2 weapons on a ship that is damn near guarunteed to die before being able to do any damage of worth. It can still do damage sure, but atleast he wouldn't be losing a significant amount of isk in the event it is used as bait and dies.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 28/08/2009 07:56:49
Originally by: Corewin
Obvious Bait Geddon is Obvious
Why are you using an Armageddon as bait when there are much better bait ships?
And it's not even a good bait setup, as you end up with less EHP than a setup that doesn't involve 5x 1600mm plates.
Quote:
EDIT: Ok I'll detail this. Why on earth would someone put T2 weapons on a ship that is damn near guarunteed to die before being able to do any damage of worth. It can still do damage sure, but atleast he wouldn't be losing a significant amount of isk in the event it is used as bait and dies.
Because he doesn't have the skills to use T2 guns? Even his "good" non-bait setups have the terrible T1 guns fitted.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 28/08/2009 07:56:49
Originally by: Corewin
Obvious Bait Geddon is Obvious
Why are you using an Armageddon as bait when there are much better bait ships?
Geddons are cheap and have plenty of low slots. Doesn't mean its the only good bait ship, but ragging on him because he happened to use a Geddon is just silly.
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.08.28 08:03:00 -
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Edited by: Suukovesta on 28/08/2009 08:04:46
Originally by: Corewin
Obvious Bait Geddon is Obvious
EDIT: Ok I'll detail this. Why on earth would someone put T2 weapons on a ship that is damn near guarunteed to die before being able to do any damage of worth. It can still do damage sure, but atleast he wouldn't be losing a significant amount of isk in the event it is used as bait and dies.
damn near guaranteed to die
Where is your fleets ECM ? Where are the remote reps of your incoming fleet ? If your bait is near guaranteed to die, you are doing something wrong. Use better plates and some rigs if you bait - and you will lose 0 isk.
tl;dr: learn how to bait; if you use crap setups like this, you (he) shouldn't shoot off his mouth when criticising others.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.28 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 28/08/2009 08:12:02
Originally by: Psyflame
BYDI has said on multiple occasions that "psyflame will always be primary, no matter what." This has been confirmed by several current and former BYDI members.
Lol, confirming Psyflame is such a nice guy, we would never lie to him.
For the record, our FCs are excellent target callers that select primaries by relevance, the only times we primary you first is when a little bird told us it might be a good idea.
Or just for the tears, its always fun to shoot people first that go emo.
Not that shooting your buffertanked ships would make any noticeable difference, they go down just as quick as the rest of their fleet, and probably dont even have less dps output.
Also, Sera is right, there are much better bait ships, using one of those might make sense if you really wanna believe you are that important. Heck, a proper pvp setup ends up with way more EHP than your bait fit, and kickass dps to boot.
Cheers
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.28 09:16:00 -
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Why an Armageddon for Bait?
A Baitship is only good if it's not Obvious that it's Bait.
That's Why.
A Lone Dominix Jumps through. Everybody "knows" Dominix's are usually Tanked to the Extreme. Obvious Bait is Obvious.
A Lone Geddon Jumps through. Everybody "knows" Geddons are usually Gank Fitted. Therefore they may assume they can take it down fast enough and take the Bait.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Citation Registration Commission
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Posted - 2009.08.28 09:35:00 -
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Simple, just find another fleet commander, get a few decent fights, get the reputation, and make the people join your fleet instead of fleeting with mister X.
As long as mister X remains fleet commander, you can't really complain as you're not providing an alternative yourself.
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Arwen Tyler
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Simple, just find another fleet commander, get a few decent fights, get the reputation, and make the people join your fleet instead of fleeting with mister X.
As long as mister X remains fleet commander, you can't really complain as you're not providing an alternative yourself.
Well I was going to flame you about being a carebear plexer but I see you got a few kills, you go girl !
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Why an Armageddon for Bait?
A Baitship is only good if it's not Obvious that it's Bait.
That's Why.
A Lone Dominix Jumps through. Everybody "knows" Dominix's are usually Tanked to the Extreme. Obvious Bait is Obvious.
A Lone Geddon Jumps through. Everybody "knows" Geddons are usually Gank Fitted. Therefore they may assume they can take it down fast enough and take the Bait.
And as the killboard shows, my geddons have a history of being 3x heatsink. That ship, after insurance, was a grand total of 6m isk, iirc. All the more hilarious for the bawwwww factor that continues to repeat itself in this thread.
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Nottan Alty
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Posted - 2009.08.28 16:55:00 -
[39]
You're a mean one, Mr. X.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mr. X.
You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
You're a monster, Mr. X.
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Mr. X.
I wouldn't touch you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.
You're a vile one, Mr. X.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. X.
Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Mr. X.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. X.
The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote: "Stink. Stank. Stunk."
You're a rotter, Mr. X.
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Mr. X.
Your soul is an apalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.
You nauseate me, Mr. X.
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Mr. X.
You're a three decker saurkraut and toadstool
sandwich
With arsenic sauce.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
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Posted - 2009.08.28 18:10:00 -
[40]
One Bad Apple don't spoil the whole bunch. Girrrrl.
-- The crazy tree blooms at every moment of liberal ascendancy.
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Endless eRage
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Posted - 2009.08.28 19:50:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Raimo
Psyflame?
FRANK???
Yeah its Frank sunky. A good reason to join the Amarr, it's leagal to pod his ass as much as you like.
Posting Alt, flame away!
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.28 21:21:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Psyflame
Dude I know exactly who you are talking about! That guy is a total jerk! Let's call him Mr X so we don't hurt any feelings.
Once he told me to switch my dps hawk and fly a blackbird or interceptor! That's ridiculous!
He is always bossing militia people around. He tells them to train for interceptors--but we just want to use sniper drakes! I think if you ask really nicely, the other guy won't warp away. It's kind of an honour-point system.
He tells us to use stupid ships like basilisks, and he tells us that we should fit shield extenders on our pvp ships instead of shield rechargers. And oh man maaaannn. He told me to fit ballistic control units on my DRAKE. How am I going to tank the enemy fire if I don't have shield power relays?!? What a bully!
But then there is the ship fittings. Oh man this guy is unbearable!
He told this one guy to take the armor rep off his raven. That guy told him off and he was completely right! Mr X was being a JERK policing other people's ship fittings.
Sadly the raven still died though:
http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=78276
Then there was another time I remember Mr X was being SUPER MEAN.
He told this one prophecy pilot to change his fit or leave fleet. Mr X was FC, but honestly he had no right to make threats that extreme.
Without the support of the fleet, the poor prophecy pilot died in tama, I still blame Mr X to this day:
http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3839754
There are some other times I remember Mr X being super rude about ship fittings. There was a really cool guy in a rokh with an officer armor repairer (super cool!!) and some officer cruise missile launchers. He was sniping with it and it was awesome
Mr X was sooooo rude in militia chat. He called him names when the rokh died, and we really did not approve.
Then there was this other time where we think Mr X was SO mean he made someone LEAVE the militia. There was this picture going around:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2927/udan.png
and Mr X had the nerve to insult the guy!! I mean, lots of people in militia are alts, so what; this guy was just playing the game how he wanted!!
In short, I think Mr X should be kicked out of the militia because he is obviously too mean to the WoW players.
1) Everyone knows Psy is a jerk
2) BYDI suck
3) Gallente militia is fail
4) Caldari militia has problems forming small fleets without taking 45 mins to get everyone rallied
5) ????
6) Profit (by selling ships/mods/ammo at the pipe
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.29 15:25:00 -
[43]
i love psyflame. he is the lone voice that makes milita chat on my alt bearable at times.
also, merin/sera. go away. there is no "right fit" for any ship, you of all people should know that. so if he wants to fit a ton of 1600 plates to his geddon, let him do it. it has the lows for it, and its not like DPS matters once you get over 30 people in a gang.
psyflame obviously knows what hes doing, and if he has a set purpose for a ship, then let him fit it as such.
also, as an aside, my main fleet character starts with the letter A. wasnt a smart choice, and because of that, i ALWAYS superbuffer my battleship. i dont care if i cant shoot as far as the fleet, or if i cant do as much damage. however, if i can take more of the fire, that means less fire for the buddies who DO have the damage.
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2009.08.29 16:40:00 -
[44]
LOL, I'm laughing at this,
He seems to have a handle on things, fitting drakes for uber tank in PVP is pointless, they can't kill nothing, fit some damage mod's and at least you will be useful, fitting Rokh with officer fittings for PVP is stupid, big damage sniper get's primaried, even the damage out from all snipers and they will struggle to pick a primary or be discreet about damage dealing.
FW is PVP, you need to get rid of as many enemy ships as quick as possible, drakes should have strong buffer tank and as many BCU's as you can fit so he is right on that score, Rokh's should be sniping with damage maods and hardly any tank, using align to and warping out when primaried, so he is right there.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.29 19:15:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
also, merin/sera. go away. there is no "right fit" for any ship, you of all people should know that. so if he wants to fit a ton of 1600 plates to his geddon, let him do it. it has the lows for it, and its not like DPS matters once you get over 30 people in a gang.
Spoken like a true militia player. Like it or not, there IS a correct ship and setup for every situation (or a few correct options at most). The fact that you and so many militia players feel otherwise is why the militia is such a joke.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.29 19:55:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
also, merin/sera. go away. there is no "right fit" for any ship, you of all people should know that. so if he wants to fit a ton of 1600 plates to his geddon, let him do it. it has the lows for it, and its not like DPS matters once you get over 30 people in a gang.
Spoken like a true militia player. Like it or not, there IS a correct ship and setup for every situation (or a few correct options at most). The fact that you and so many militia players feel otherwise is why the militia is such a joke.
no, my ALT is in FW. alt. as in person i get on occasionally to do stuff. my MAIN is in a 0.0 alliance.
suprise suprise though, they want a buffer sniper fit as well.
also, it occured to me that either you are sincere in this, or you are a REALLY good troll.
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.08.29 20:21:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
no, my ALT is in FW. alt. as in person i get on occasionally to do stuff. my MAIN is in a 0.0 alliance.
suprise suprise though, they want a buffer sniper fit as well.
If you bring a buffer sniper fit to fleet, you will be kicked and insulted by psyflame. No one would complain about him, if he'd only insult people in the examples that he mentioned. It's like the thread starter said, he is so opinionated and arrogant that should one have a setup he dosn't like, he will insult that person for an hour or more on end. One day he likes drakes, everyone has to bring a drake, then he changes his opinion and everyone who brings drakes is a moron, because psyflame decided that another ship is better.
Look at his last post, he is proud of bringing a 6 million trash setup to fleets. That's why Caldari blobs are slaughtered by fleets which have less ships. If someone is using trash fits for fleets, he at least shouldn't insult others because of their setups and ruin their game.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.29 21:54:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Suukovesta
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
no, my ALT is in FW. alt. as in person i get on occasionally to do stuff. my MAIN is in a 0.0 alliance.
suprise suprise though, they want a buffer sniper fit as well.
If you bring a buffer sniper fit to fleet, you will be kicked and insulted by psyflame. No one would complain about him, if he'd only insult people in the examples that he mentioned. It's like the thread starter said, he is so opinionated and arrogant that should one have a setup he dosn't like, he will insult that person for an hour or more on end. One day he likes drakes, everyone has to bring a drake, then he changes his opinion and everyone who brings drakes is a moron, because psyflame decided that another ship is better.
Look at his last post, he is proud of bringing a 6 million trash setup to fleets. That's why Caldari blobs are slaughtered by fleets which have less ships. If someone is using trash fits for fleets, he at least shouldn't insult others because of their setups and ruin their game.
lol, my quote was meant for merin, and i was referring to bringing plated snipers to 0.0 fleets.
psyflames a cool guy, he gets the caldari FW all emoragey just by typing in militia. its a great thing to watch on a slow day.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.30 01:18:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Psyflame on 30/08/2009 01:20:25
Originally by: Suukovesta
One day he likes drakes, everyone has to bring a drake, then he changes his opinion and everyone who brings drakes is a moron, because psyflame decided that another ship is better.
What? so u agree with me?
I just said Mr X is a really mean guy because he doesn't let me fit 4x SPR on my drake! I wish more people would fly supertank drakes. Personally, I like my recharge drake very much, they can tank the enemy fire just great!!
A few times Mr X was FC of a fleet, and he was being REALLY DUMB. He said "ok guys I have 4 guardians, you should use armor tank if you can"
WTF. Ok first of all, doesn't he know that my drake is already tanked for combat?!? It has t2 shield rechargers, nothing can kill it.
Second, doesn't that idiot know that I'm caldari and I don't want to fly armor ships? I realize I could join another gang, or wait until he is using a gang without those ships... but I AM CALDARI. I have a RIGHT to join whatever fleet I want and fly any ship I want!!
Originally by: Suukovesta
If you bring a buffer sniper fit to fleet, you will be kicked and insulted by psyflame.
*emote grin*
I know who you are now. You are the guy who brought the 3x large shield xfer rokh to the sniper gang.
Heh. 5x gun sniper rokh. 
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.30 12:49:00 -
[50]
Needs more anti-bydi hate. That way nobody will suspect that we actually FC the Caldari militia.
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Ran Khanon
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Posted - 2009.08.30 18:27:00 -
[51]
Arguing about fits is such a waste of time while fleeting. Give advice, sure. And as an FC, asking that person kindly to perhaps change his fit next time is just fine. But kicking people for wrong fits is not the way to get a nice team spirit going. Also keep in mind that not everyone doing militia is very experienced in the game.
"C'est le ton qui fait la musique", and stuff; say things in a jerky way and you will be considered a jerk, be understanding and patient about it and you will get the same in return. To put it simple: ****ing off people you have to cooperate with isn't a good idea in general.
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.08.30 19:56:00 -
[52]
Don't much care about who hates who and who fits what in the Caldari/Gallente war. If this thread is truly about how to take away one negative and destructive person's influence over militia chat there is only one answer:
Right click portrait, BLOCK.
Then casually put it out there that others should follow suit and block anyone else who pointlessly argues with the troll. I promise you, YOU WILL NOT MISS THEM. They likely are the type to just sit in chat and never join fleets anyway, so you aren't missing any decent 'x's for fleets.
The Minmatar militia ignored the single biggest troll I've seen in EVE right out of the Minnie militia. Without attention, they fade into the shadows.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.08.30 22:44:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Dohl Khrensen
They likely are the type to just sit in chat and never join fleets anyway, so you aren't missing any decent 'x's for fleets.
Confirming that Mr X has never joined a militia fleet.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.08.31 09:04:00 -
[54]
And here I was hoping I could smack PERVS and prolly Unfamed II or Bad Messenger or our out-of-office spy Damar .. but turns out it's some neverheard nubcake named Slyflame?! wtf people! Wake up!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.08.31 13:45:00 -
[55]
I don't do FW, I don't know "mr. X" but he sounds like someone I'd like. If you fit like an idiot you'll get called on it. If you expect to be primaried on the spot drop your heat sinks and fit for maximum tank and if you fleet isn't organised enough (or ins't into armour RR) you gonna die anyway so you might as well not make it an uber expensive fit.
So far, from what I've read, he makes perfect sense. Whether or not that means he's allowed to be a ar$ehole over it is something different. But then people who ARE the ret@rds are more than happy to blame the messenger for their stupidity. ie, "Mr. X is mean and an ar$ehole because he told me I should use more than 3 braincells when fitting my ship".
Then again, no personal experience here so I should probably not have an opinion on it.
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Beltantis Torrence
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:34:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Psyflame
Dude I know exactly who you are talking about! That guy is a total jerk! Let's call him Mr X so we don't hurt any feelings.
If Mr.X constrained his self admiration to fail fits no one would really care. Rant more though about how the Megathron is garbage and the only BS worth flying are Geddon and Dominix. You just basically repeat the same **** we can read here except in an overstated way - failing to grasp that fleet PVP is not like solo PVP and flying the FOTM is not the end all and be all of PVP.
A lot of the stuff you say is right but a lot of it is also just power-gaming bull**** that doesn't correlate to real world numbers. More importantly though, your sarcasm spamming militia all day long just clogs it up with crap the rest of us don't want to read. I get that you think you're clever but you just come across like a bitter e-peen driven nerd.
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kayentelva
Minmatar
Ore Mongers
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 17:18:00 -
[57]
Originally by: MyBankingAlt
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There is one particular individual that is constantly rude, disruptive and causes everyone (or nearly everyone) else strife. He is so opinionated and arrogant that should one have a setup he doesnÆt like, he will insult that person for an hour or more on end, clogging up militia chat making it difficult for people to give/receive intel.
WhatÆs worse is he has a way of bringing out the worst in others, pushing their buttons until militia chat becomes something so ugly I minimize it altogether....
wait, isnt FrankMonkey in Minnie Militia ?
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:55:00 -
[58]
I would suggest that if reading something someone writes always makes you mad, stop reading it.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:09:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Edit: why does the gallente killboard show more losses than the caldari one btw, dont you guys post your losses?
People get so riled up by psyflame they post fake losses for him on various killboards.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:13:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Sera Ryskin
Merin is banned (yet again). Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
I so wish they'd ban alts too...
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.09.01 02:54:00 -
[61]
don't failfit your ships and well then it should be easy enough to get along with him!
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:13:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
If Mr.X constrained his self admiration to fail fits no one would really care. Rant more though about how the Megathron is garbage and the only BS worth flying are Geddon and Dominix.
Wut. I don't recall saying that the megathron is garbage...
I realize you are upset that I embarrassed you in front of the fleet the other night, it's okay. You can let the tears flow here.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
You just basically repeat the same **** we can read here except in an overstated way - failing to grasp that fleet PVP is not like solo PVP
Do ho ho. I c ur insinuations.
Well you have fun with your mega in those large gang fights you just mentioned; I'm busy stroking my scorch L.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Edited to add: And if you were FC'ing, I really wouldn't care. But this is in chat. I don't need a recap of lovely comments like "Stealth bombers are useless" and "Assault Frigates are useless", etc. They aren't the end all and be all but they have a purpose and they suit those purposes and watching you rant about it for an hour
Nice imaginary quotes there. I did not say that bombers were useless. Just because you take SB fleets against inties and die terribly, please do not assume that the rest of the EVE population is equally inept.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
when I'm checking for WT intel doesn't make me respect you any more.
Considering you advocate the use of "stealtbomber only" fleets against roaming frig gangs, yeah, I really don't seek your "respect"
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:49:00 -
[63]
[03:55:22] Psyflame > lol. beltanis is such a scrub
[03:55:34] alden good > y?
[03:55:42] Psyflame > He's crying on eve forums because I insulted his assault frigate
[03:55:51] alden good > o lol
[03:56:06] Psyflame > definitely going to pop him now
[03:56:13] alden good > ..........
[03:57:40] Stertanis > heheheh
Someone didn't read the warning in my first post and posted the truth with his main. Your days in militia are numbered, Beltranis
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:06:00 -
[64]
Can't fit Scorch L in tech 1 guns. derp derp.
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DUYSheep
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:39:00 -
[65]
U can always join the gallente militia, we don't like psyflame either. Scrubs like that don't have a place here. We won't trust you tho, but u will get the chance to kill him and his buddies now and then. Everyone who is sick of caldari bull**** should come gallente side. We may not approve of your failfits but we will politely inform you of alternatives. Everyone here is appreciated, even the spies.
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Beltantis Torrence
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:30:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:30:30
Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:30:04
Originally by: Psyflame
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
If Mr.X constrained his self admiration to fail fits no one would really care. Rant more though about how the Megathron is garbage and the only BS worth flying are Geddon and Dominix.
Wut. I don't recall saying that the megathron is garbage...
I realize you are upset that I embarrassed you in front of the fleet the other night, it's okay. You can let the tears flow here.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
You just basically repeat the same **** we can read here except in an overstated way - failing to grasp that fleet PVP is not like solo PVP
Do ho ho. I c ur insinuations.
Well you have fun with your mega in those large gang fights you just mentioned; I'm busy stroking my scorch L.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Edited to add: And if you were FC'ing, I really wouldn't care. But this is in chat. I don't need a recap of lovely comments like "Stealth bombers are useless" and "Assault Frigates are useless", etc. They aren't the end all and be all but they have a purpose and they suit those purposes and watching you rant about it for an hour
Nice imaginary quotes there. I did not say that bombers were useless. Just because you take SB fleets against inties and die terribly, please do not assume that the rest of the EVE population is equally inept.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
when I'm checking for WT intel doesn't make me respect you any more.
Considering you advocate the use of "stealtbomber only" fleets against roaming frig gangs, yeah, I really don't seek your "respect"
Ha. You embarassed me in front of fleet but I'm making stuff up? You've never said anything to me in fleets, I just get tired of your whining. I don't fly stealth bombers - I have no missile skills to speak of.
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Beltantis Torrence
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:44:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:50:57
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[ 2009.08.14 01:27:37 ] Psyflame > mega is a joke ship after the web nerf. even the devs said so
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[ 2009.08.14 01:30:39 ] Psyflame > I would much rather have a geddon or a rokh, oh wait i have both
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[ 2009.08.14 01:31:19 ] Psyflame > abaddon does more dps and has better tracking from 5km-55km.mega can't even track @ sub 5km.It's pathetic.
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[ 2009.08.14 01:32:15 ] Psyflame > my triage nid laughs at these puny rr
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Anyway, that's like one days worth of logs. He drones on and on like that all day.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:04:00 -
[68]
I'm so gonna make an alt and have him join FW.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:25:00 -
[69]
Quoting this so you can't edit it away.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Some choice Psyflame quotes :
[ 2009.08.24 22:54:36 ] Psyflame > you mean you are a scrub who has not been playing as long as i have
[ 2009.08.24 22:54:49 ] Psyflame > and confuse a NH with a real ship, like a vulture
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[ 2009.08.26 01:37:27 ] Psyflame > Public Service Announcement:Properly flown t1 cruisers will DESTROY t2 frigates every time.Assault frigates are not pvp ships.If you want a t2 frig, fly an inty! They are great!
[ 2009.08.26 01:39:18 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > i've been in af fleets and we've owned bc and t2 cruisers
[ 2009.08.26 01:39:18 ] Psyflame > facepalm?oh you want to try assault frigs vs t1 cruisers?
[ 2009.08.26 01:39:36 ] Psyflame > i have been in badger fleets and we have owned bc and t2 cruisers
[ 2009.08.26 01:39:44 ] Psyflame > does that make badger a pvp ship?
[ 2009.08.26 01:39:50 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > now if you are talking 1v1 fights then you are right... every thing i talk im talking fleets
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:13 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > and i fly a maller and i know what i can do
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:26 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > and i dont fly a hawk
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:27 ] Psyflame > af have even less reason to be in a fleet.They lock slower than interceptor, can't speedtank, cant local tank, can't rr, don't have any ehp, and cost way too much
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:28 ] Limyc > what can a af do that an inty can't do better? AFs are just heavy tanking tacklers
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:30 ] Lexang > so your AF is going to contribute more dps than a t1 cruiser in a fleet? are you that bad at fitting cruisers?
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:12 ] Limyc > who u talking to lex?
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:13 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > if your doing a fast moving frig fleet then af are your only real dps
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:16 ] UDSaxman > hirri is empty
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:23 ] Beltantis Torrence > that being said a nos fitting repping AF can hold most BS tackled indefinately, even if they're fitting neuts
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:24 ] Psyflame > "fast moving frig fleet"
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:36 ] Limyc > afs are NOT fast
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:38 ] Psyflame > you realize that my private hac gangs move faster than your plated AF's will ever dream, right?
[ 2009.08.26 01:41:52 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > got me more kills in frig fleets then bs roams
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:02 ] Psyflame > ydiw
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:05 ] Beltantis Torrence > the benefit they have over HACs is lock time
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:12 ] Beltantis Torrence > but yeah
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:13 ] Infected Cure > Psy what does 'local tank' mean
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:17 ] kerbochard > friggin crap..... do we have to have this damn argument in militia chat again?
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:17 ] Beltantis Torrence > i'd usually rather fly hacs or cruisers
[ 2009.08.26 01:42:37 ] Psyflame > personal reps.aka "i don't like teamwork and disapprove of rr"
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[ 2009.08.26 01:46:53 ] Psyflame > af don't tackle fast.I have cruisers that tackle faster than af, do more dps, and tank better.
... Goes on for like another hour.
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[ 2009.08.26 02:49:20 ] Psyflame > are there any fleets that don't consist of stealth bombers and tackle interceptors
[ 2009.08.26 02:49:22 ] Psyflame > if so, x
Out of context quotes ftw.
Don't include what was said before the statement, just take little snippets that you think support your case.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:45:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Psyflame on 01/09/2009 16:48:14
Man, so much stuff out of context, where to start?
The NH guy maybe.
We had a guy trying to join fleet with a nighthawk. He posted the fit.
HML and full recharge. SPR's and CDFP's, etc.
Claims it does "over 2000 dps, not volley damage" We ask him to go get another ship (for obvious reasons) and chat devolves into him bragging about his amazing nighthawk.
I stand by my statement that Vulture is superior (we had basi/scimi in gang and the link for rep time would have been nice) and honestly, NH is fairly useless in FW gangs.
The PSA.
Some dude were going on and on and on about how amazing his enyo was. I type that up and copypasta it whenever it is warranted, which was the case. The text that follows it... heh. Well you can see quite clearly what's going on.
I don't know why he included the next part.
Out of context again, but whatever. Some dude was saying that AF are superior tacklers and kept repeating it. 95% of Caldari FW is blobtastic gate fights. I have used a 3x sebo HIC several times in the past and yeah, it has superior scanres to the AF in fleet.
Ahh the next part.
I see some x's in militia chat so I thought "why not" only targets that were active were a plexing gang of about 15 t1/t2 frigates. I could have some rifter fun or something.
Get into fleet and what do I see?
1 ares, 1 raptor, 7 manticores.
"we have enough tackle, you need to bring a stealthbomber"
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Ezevector
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Posted - 2009.09.01 18:46:00 -
[71]
...It ain't me, if that's what you're all thinking. So far I've only laid down oceanic shockwaves of profanity and implications of mutually-consensual incest in four cases:
1. Gankers
2. Players who reply to the subject line and not the post
3. Players who think "WoW" is a valid counterargument for anything and everything
4. Similar examples of people who's IQ doesn't gain any digits when squared
Anyway, good luck to you and your squids, even if I am going to have to murder all of you at some point for daring to strike at our noble allies in the Gallente Federation.
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MaxxOmega
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:08:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Suukovesta
I prefer to fly with a newb that has bad fittings but actually fights when required, instead of a coward with the right fitting, who isn't there when you need him.
That would be me. I would be there to support you, I want to have fun not just worry about kills. If I can help others get on the killboard by using my jamming skills, I'm all for it...
Quote:
Militia is about fun pvp, you didn't pay a single isk for someones ship so it's none of your business what they fly.
Exactly, everyting I look at a thread asking for help for a fitting most of the replies are a "fly something else" response. When looking for fits for my Tengu all I heard was fly a ****ing Drake...
I tried to join the Militia last night but sadly my standing isn't high enough. Maybe later I can join up...
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MaxxOmega
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:19:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Ulstan
Edited by: Ulstan on 31/08/2009 21:17:16
I would suggest that if reading something someone writes always makes you mad, stop reading it.
Learning how to deal with personalities that clash violently with yours is an important skill in MMO's.
I'd also suggest that many members of the caldari militia could definitely use some fitting advice.
Not only do I welcome fitting advice, most of the time I need it. I'm not proud I know when I don't know...
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.03 02:36:00 -
[74]
Megathron is not totally useless. It's bad, but it hasn't gotten to that point - yet.
Just because neutrons + antimatter range make baby jesus cry doesn't mean the ship is useless.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:42:00 -
[75]
hehe, nice chatlogs. ROFL
FW full of nerds with big big e-peens i think.
Good Read 
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.09.03 15:58:00 -
[76]
Nerds with big egos in my EVE?
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GavinGoodrich
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:23:00 -
[77]
Could always just ignore the guy.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:37:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Chat logs
He's right about AFs though. They die to T1 cruisers and have no real role in gang.
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.05 04:52:00 -
[79]
Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE.
Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy.
This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia.
I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.09.05 06:21:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Suukovesta
Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE.
Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy.
This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia.
I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
Umm... Psy does not ruin morale dude. Sure he may make people sad pandas when he turns their idea of "PVP" upside down, but for the most part its of a "tough love" educating nature. Caldari Militia has always had a fair share of hostility within its ranks, and that is purely out of a difference of opinion on several levels, something you cannot avoid in a large organization.
Psy speaks the truth on matters of PVP, versions of ship types can be argued on a personal level I suppose, but when information is coming from external sources rather than just himself its really not that hard to understand. He is simply telling it as it is, suck it up and deal with it.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.09.05 06:45:00 -
[81]
I've certainly had my share of arguments with Psyflame and his corporation. Their main issue seems to be that a) I fly a caracal (aka crap n00b ship) b) fight inside plexes c) use it's said reputation to bait people.
This is somehow not proper way of fighting in FW so for example, above fight (which also had ishkur that escaped on structure mind you) simply got of flak because it was not a "proper fight", whatever that is supposed to mean. However, to OP, block button has been invented.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:05:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Psyflame on 07/09/2009 22:07:51
Originally by: Suukovesta
Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE.
Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy.
This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia.
I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
All matar ships are garbage? lolwut?
scimitar? muninn? broadsword? claw? cane? vaga? rupture? claymore? phoon?
I love how you throw out blatant lies in an attempt to push your personal agenda 
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
e-peen waving, something about killing newbies in frigs
My opinion on assault frigates has already been stated in this thread. You must excuse me if I don't fall down in awe when an AF dies to a T1 cruiser (kind of like I have been saying for years)
I stand by my statement that caracals are not welcome in our RR BS / Guardian fleets. Caracal is great if you want to solo some trial accounts in frigs.
It is not great for our rr gangs.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:59:00 -
[83]
Funny how Psy keeps making sense.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.09.08 17:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Suukovesta
Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE.
We don't have any military experts in the caldari militia.
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p1ccard
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.09 00:03:00 -
[85]
Edited by: p1ccard on 09/09/2009 00:05:15
Having been in caldari militia on two seperate occasions I can safely say that the only reason effeciency has notdropped below 30% is [people not posting losses] several select corps (GL2U and Close Combat to name a couple). Militia as a general rule is regarded by the majority of the PVP community as "Failcakes". I invite any militia corp that thinks they're "the sh*t" to dec me and prove their worth.
and mr. alt, grow some male genitalia and troll psyflame like a man-child.
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Lola Fang
Space Assassination Service
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:36:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Psyflame
I think Mr X should be kicked out of the militia because he is obviously too mean to the WoW players.
Motion Passed
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Lenartowicz
Caldari
Hive Bound Technologies
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.09 13:35:00 -
[87]
yawn tl;dr
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.09 15:21:00 -
[88]
If you don't all shut up we will come back and you can argue about how to get out of high sec again.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.09.09 16:00:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Tom Peeping on 09/09/2009 16:05:07
[ 2009.08.26 01:40:27 ] Psyflame > af have even less reason to be in a fleet.They lock slower than interceptor, can't speedtank, cant local tank, can't rr, don't have any ehp, and cost way too much
Holy Heck... up until some of these quotes, you guys tossed out, I figured he was probably good for you. I got nothing to say about "How" he says stuff, I'm sure you've got a valid complaint there, but now he's sorta proving that he's not all that experienced after all.
That (among other tidbits) has historically been true, but is not true any longer. Looks like another know it all who can't keep up with the changing nature of eve.
Edit... I see his post about out of context quotes. Fair enough... still, I'd be careful about saying stuff that's not true, regardless of the context. Depending on the circs, AF can have a valuable place in fleets, and what's with the can't speed tank line? It's not really all that hard to ST in an AF. What gives there?
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weebil
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:23:00 -
[90]
personally I think there has to be a bit of come an go. An FC can't scan every ship in fleet for noob fittings, a couple of which could lead to him overestimating the capabilities of the whole fleet and losing it.
On the other hand that's probably no excuse to rant and rave at individuals for ages in militia chat. The guys there are eager to fight and learn pvp. A long rant will probably see them return to high sec safety never to return to pvp...if not quit the game completely.
A shipfitting forum would help the newer members fit properly, directing people there instead of ranting away in chat would be much more useful and not lose moral and members. Most ships in eve have some type of place, and its on the FC to learn how to use them to his best advantage.
He'd also have to have a fair idea of the capabilities of the gang, and take that into account with calculations. Either that or learn to politely say no. If someone tries to x up in an AF for a RR battleship gang, its best just to inform them politely that they can either reship, leave fleet or come along and help tackle, but if they are attacked then the rest of the gang can't do anything to help them, so its at their own risk.
A little bit diplomacy and common sense gets people much further and much more respect than a tantrum.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.09.09 21:38:00 -
[91]
Hmmm.. heavily opinionated with serious personality problems, loves to FC, has ideas that are work, but are dated, and doesn't manage to keep quite up to date with changes in eve.
Almost makes me wonder if psyflame is a playdead alt. Gonna have to join your coms and find out just for giggles.
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anotheruglyalt
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Posted - 2009.09.09 22:39:00 -
[92]
Psyflame gives specific examples of what people are complaining about like "I didn't want that shield tanking af in my RR battleship fleet", fine if he is the FC he should have the right not to accept an X. He says his quotes are taken out of context, he uses sarcasm and humor to paint himself as the sole voice of reason amongst a herd of noobs and he is charged with the responsibility of educating them.
However he is only speaking half truths in these forums. He does not restrict his comments to fleets he voices them in militia, he voices them in fleets when he is not the FC, he pokes at people and deliberately attempts to start these arguments. And if he cannot outwit the other person, he calls them a spy. Anyone who does not agree with him he does everything in his power (often successfully) to intimidate, humiliate or otherwise damage their reputation within the militia. That is why he always makes these fitting arguments public (he refuses to use private convoÆs for these issues). He is unwilling to except that there is more than one way of doing things. Is he a good pvp'er? I would say for the most part yes. Is he the greateset pvp'er in eve?...LMAO only in his own opinion. Same answer for is he the greatest pvp'er in the caldari militiaàhe is not.
Imho psyflame would be a much better pvpÆer if he was willing to open his mind a bit, accept that he doesnÆt know everything and that heÆs not always right. More importantly he needs to learn that when he IS right it is not always his right to force his opinions on others (exclusions being when he is FCÆing). But I doubt any of this will do any good. As he is a sad, control-freak of a human being, who obviously ties a great deal of his self-worth to internet spaceship gaming and is so blinded by his own ego that he can no longer recognize when blatant hypocrisies of his own words and actions have been pointed out to him.
I kind of feel sorry for individuals like this as there seems to be more and more of them surfacing in eve.
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Rb Chua
Caldari
More-Cowbell
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Posted - 2009.09.10 02:18:00 -
[93]
Hello Kitty Universe is that way --------->
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.09.10 05:02:00 -
[94]
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Is he a good pvp'er? I would say for the most part yes. Is he the greateset pvp'er in eve?...LMAO only in his own opinion. Same answer for is he the greatest pvp'er in the caldari militiaàhe is not.
Looking at many of his kills, it seems he pads up his record considerably by ungrouping his turrets in fleet fights and just getting into as many killmails as possible.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Drykor
Minmatar
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:41:00 -
[95]
Frank Monkey joined the Caldari militia? Oo
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Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:14:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Drykor
Frank Monkey joined the Caldari militia? Oo
I lolled
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:20:00 -
[97]
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
more alt posting
Nice. Very nice.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
However he is only speaking half truths in these forums. He does not restrict his comments to fleets he voices them in militia, he voices them in fleets when he is not the FC, he pokes at people and deliberately attempts to start these arguments.
Yeah. When someone puts a small shield booster on a prophecy, I laugh about it.
How terrible of me.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
And if he cannot outwit the other person, he calls them a spy.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2927/udan.png
Yeah sorry dudes. That was just a big joke. The three or four fleets that mysteriously died after that post were due to a navigation error while flying over the space-Bermuda triangle. It's a big conspiracy.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Anyone who does not agree with him he does everything in his power (often successfully) to intimidate, humiliate or otherwise damage their reputation within the militia.
When you have an officer armor rep and officer cruise missiles on a rokh, I tend to laugh about it.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
That is why he always makes these fitting arguments public (he refuses to use private convoÆs for these issues). He is unwilling to except that there is more than one way of doing things.
Yeah, there is more than one way to fit a ship and you guys have found it
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Imho psyflame would be a much better pvpÆer if he was willing to open his mind a bit, accept that he doesnÆt know everything and that heÆs not always right. More importantly he needs to learn that when he IS right it is not always his right to force his opinions on others
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a SAR off a raven.
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a hull rep off a moros.
I have seen the error of my ways, can you forgive me?
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Looking at many of his kills, it seems he pads up his record considerably by ungrouping his turrets in fleet fights and just getting into as many killmails as possible.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
As opposed to Damar, who boasts constantly about padding his record by killing trial accounts in frigates 
My most flown ships are interceptors. Considering the majority of militia has a fascination with honour points and don't believe in using warp disruptors, I feel that flying an interceptor is a rather useful part of a pvp gang.
It is absolutely shocking that I, while flying an interceptor, focus more on getting tackle than on doing damage.
BTW, don't you have a space-LARP convention or something to attend sir mr general sir?
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Choppernicus
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:38:00 -
[98]
This is game!
lol great read.
Psy is rough around the edges, a little douchey at times, amarr isnt quite as good as he says and yes I'm a spy, but he has some strange loyalty and desire to help caldari militia, so good for him. A lot of people need help with their fittings so it's nice to help them, but I tend to agree that he can be a bit rough in giving said advice.
P.S. I am lurking  Stupid eve itch
P.P.S. Don't forget to take your meds psy, we all love you =D
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:44:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Psyflame
When you have an officer armor rep and officer cruise missiles on a rokh, I tend to laugh about it.
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a SAR off a raven.
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a hull rep off a moros.
This is actually what I miss most about Caldari Militia, no one ever checks fleets in Amarr.
I remember one day the pre-flight ship scanning caught a shield tanked Apoc with small blasters in the gang.
They refused to refit, we refused to fly with them...... Simple :-)
Psyflame you're always welcome in my Amarr FW corp!
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:56:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 00:58:42
Originally by: Psyflame
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a hull rep off a moros.
You keep saying this over and over again, fact of the matter is the guy put that hull repper there to repair outside station, after he got taken into structure a few minutes earlier.
You know that pretty well, yet try again and again to ridicule the guy for his "fail fit". What does that tell me about the other stories about "fail fits" you mention?
Tell me, you expect him to pay for repairs in station and not use a hull repper instead (have you any idea what repairing damage on a capital costs?), and yet you are too cheap to even buy RTPs for your "bait" geddons?
Funny.
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Sravaw
Gallente
Forging Industries
Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 01:13:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Psyflame
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
more alt posting
Nice. Very nice.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
However he is only speaking half truths in these forums. He does not restrict his comments to fleets he voices them in militia, he voices them in fleets when he is not the FC, he pokes at people and deliberately attempts to start these arguments.
Yeah. When someone puts a small shield booster on a prophecy, I laugh about it.
How terrible of me.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
And if he cannot outwit the other person, he calls them a spy.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2927/udan.png
Yeah sorry dudes. That was just a big joke. The three or four fleets that mysteriously died after that post were due to a navigation error while flying over the space-Bermuda triangle. It's a big conspiracy.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Anyone who does not agree with him he does everything in his power (often successfully) to intimidate, humiliate or otherwise damage their reputation within the militia.
When you have an officer armor rep and officer cruise missiles on a rokh, I tend to laugh about it.
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
That is why he always makes these fitting arguments public (he refuses to use private convoÆs for these issues). He is unwilling to except that there is more than one way of doing things.
Yeah, there is more than one way to fit a ship and you guys have found it
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Imho psyflame would be a much better pvpÆer if he was willing to open his mind a bit, accept that he doesnÆt know everything and that heÆs not always right. More importantly he needs to learn that when he IS right it is not always his right to force his opinions on others
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a SAR off a raven.
It is wrong of me to tell someone to take a hull rep off a moros.
I have seen the error of my ways, can you forgive me?
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Looking at many of his kills, it seems he pads up his record considerably by ungrouping his turrets in fleet fights and just getting into as many killmails as possible.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
As opposed to Damar, who boasts constantly about padding his record by killing trial accounts in frigates
My most flown ships are interceptors. Considering the majority of militia has a fascination with honour points and don't believe in using warp disruptors, I feel that flying an interceptor is a rather useful part of a pvp gang.
It is absolutely shocking that I, while flying an interceptor, focus more on getting tackle than on doing damage.
BTW, don't you have a space-LARP convention or something to attend sir mr general sir?
You know, people might be willing to listen to your advice, if you weren't so condescending and judgmental about it.
I've found that people tend to listen more when you're calm, and reasonable with them.
I know, I know, ****'s insane.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:38:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
You keep saying this over and over again, fact of the matter is the guy put that hull repper there to repair outside station, after he got taken into structure a few minutes earlier.
You know that pretty well, yet try again and again to ridicule the guy for his "fail fit". What does that tell me about the other stories about "fail fits" you mention?
Tell me, you expect him to pay for repairs in station and not use a hull repper instead (have you any idea what repairing 50% hull damage on a capital costs?), and yet you are too cheap to even buy RTPs for your "bait" geddons, let alone rigs?
Funny.
Funny.
He aggroed in a capital fit with a hull rep.
He should have docked and waited instead of fighting with a hull rep fit.
Let's see your excuse for the small shield boosting prophecy.
Originally by: Sravaw
You know, people might be willing to listen to your advice, if you weren't so condescending and judgmental about it.
I've found that people tend to listen more when you're calm, and reasonable with them.
I know, I know, ****'s insane.
If I sound condescending to someone who fits officer armor reps on a rokh, well I guess that just makes me a bad person and I will have to live with my guilt
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:56:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: anotheruglyalt
Is he a good pvp'er? I would say for the most part yes. Is he the greateset pvp'er in eve?...LMAO only in his own opinion. Same answer for is he the greatest pvp'er in the caldari militiaàhe is not.
Looking at many of his kills, it seems he pads up his record considerably by ungrouping his turrets in fleet fights and just getting into as many killmails as possible.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
In addition to that he always warps out when things get tough. Or he cancels warp and warps in even after the jammers, to make sure that he won't get primaried. He then cycles through the hostile fleet with a tackle mod or a gun and warps out again.
After the fight he brags about his killboard stats and laughs on people who died during the fight, while collecting the loot with his alt. And on the forum he plays the nice guy and the sole voice of sanity.
I hate to see when he joins our fleets (which happens quite often last weeks), but you can't get rid of him and his minions.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:59:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Psyflame
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
You keep saying this over and over again, fact of the matter is the guy put that hull repper there to repair outside station, after he got taken into structure a few minutes earlier.
You know that pretty well, yet try again and again to ridicule the guy for his "fail fit". What does that tell me about the other stories about "fail fits" you mention?
Tell me, you expect him to pay for repairs in station and not use a hull repper instead (have you any idea what repairing 50% hull damage on a capital costs?), and yet you are too cheap to even buy RTPs for your "bait" geddons, let alone rigs?
Funny.
Funny.
He aggroed in a capital fit with a hull rep.
He should have docked and waited instead of fighting with a hull rep fit.
Let's see your excuse for the small shield boosting prophecy.
Originally by: Sravaw
You know, people might be willing to listen to your advice, if you weren't so condescending and judgmental about it.
I've found that people tend to listen more when you're calm, and reasonable with them.
I know, I know, ****'s insane.
If I sound condescending to someone who fits officer armor reps on a rokh, well I guess that just makes me a bad person and I will have to live with my guilt
Psyflame, i don't know who it was with the rokh with officer ****, but we could work out something that involves you, him, a horrible death and a massive erection while looting ... just sayin' bro. :)
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.11 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Suukovesta on 11/09/2009 09:18:28
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Psyflame, i don't know who it was with the rokh with officer ****, but we could work out something that involves you, him, a horrible death and a massive erection while looting ... just sayin' bro. :)
You don't get it, the rokh or most of the other ships in question were not involved with psiflame or his fleet in any way. If they were in a fleet, the fleet could have warped to a belt, kill this guy and loot his officer stuff. He found the killmails on the killboard and used them for his daily dose of sneer. Everyone thinks he's such a wise pvp man and failfit detector because of this steady naming and shaming.
psiflame has a serious inferiority complex, that's why he needs to boss people around or treat them like that, it gives him the feeling of being better than them.
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Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.11 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Psyflame
If I sound condescending to someone who fits officer armor reps on a rokh, well I guess that just makes me a bad person and I will have to live with my guilt
You are a very very bad person. You are supposed to tell them how uber it is, how they only won because they outblobbed him by 11ty billion and had logistics alts, <insert random ego massage>, and how you'd love to see him pwn together in the awesome fit with you once.
Then you warp him to a planet. Profit.
Now he may never fly officer armour Rokhs again, you bastard.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.09.11 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 11/09/2009 16:54:20
Originally by: Suukovesta
In addition to that he always warps out when things get tough. Or he cancels warp and warps in even after the jammers, to make sure that he won't get primaried. He then cycles through the hostile fleet with a tackle mod or a gun and warps out again.
Always warps out?
You don't think this might be a slight exaggeration?
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=136419
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Sravaw
Gallente
Forging Industries
Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 17:48:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Ulstan
Edited by: Ulstan on 11/09/2009 16:54:20
Originally by: Suukovesta
In addition to that he always warps out when things get tough. Or he cancels warp and warps in even after the jammers, to make sure that he won't get primaried. He then cycles through the hostile fleet with a tackle mod or a gun and warps out again.
Always warps out?
You don't think this might be a slight exaggeration?
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=136419
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=136419
It looks like he won't warp out if he's got 55 v 8 odds.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.11 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/09/2009 18:03:07
Originally by: Psyflame
He aggroed in a capital fit with a hull rep.
He should have docked and waited instead of fighting with a hull rep fit.
Wouldnt have made any difference. The moment he agressed he was done for, hull rep or not.
Now you might say he shouldnt have agressed at all without getting proper intel about the entities operating in that area, but certainly his fit didnt make any difference when enough dreads to pop him in less than 30 seconds where waiting.
If there wasnt a ganksquad of dreads waiting, he could have repped his hull up while killing a few cruisers, without ever dropping into low armor.
So, my point still stands, why are you bashing on the guy for his fitting (which was perfectly reasonable), if you clearly know it wasnt the problem?
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.11 19:06:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Sravaw
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=136419
It looks like he won't warp out if he's got 55 v 8 odds.
That fight took place over a long time period and most of the people involved didn't get there until the last 30s of the fight.
When I got there I was the 7th person and they had about 12.
Have I killed you or something? Is that why you are so very butthurt and talking about fights for which you were not present?
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Sravaw
Gallente
Forging Industries
Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 19:25:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Psyflame
Originally by: Sravaw
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=136419
It looks like he won't warp out if he's got 55 v 8 odds.
That fight took place over a long time period and most of the people involved didn't get there until the last 30s of the fight.
When I got there I was the 7th person and they had about 12.
Have I killed you or something? Is that why you are so very butthurt and talking about fights for which you were not present?
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Reaching out to embrace the random
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come |
Kora Zilesti
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Posted - 2009.09.11 20:49:00 -
[112]
lol, just lol
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Choppernicus
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Posted - 2009.09.11 20:58:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Choppernicus on 11/09/2009 20:57:57
love the sheer number of psy alts posting in here =)
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=136419
pretty fail fleet if his curse outdamaged a couple brutixes, geddons, and that crow!
You'd think he would have fixed their fits before the fleet left 
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.12 07:56:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Choppernicus
Edited by: Choppernicus on 11/09/2009 20:57:57
love the sheer number of psy alts posting in here =)
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=136419
pretty fail fleet if his curse outdamaged a couple brutixes, geddons, and that crow!
You'd think he would have fixed their fits before the fleet left
Curse outdamaged those ships because it was on the field for about 10 minutes longer than they were
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2009.09.12 09:05:00 -
[115]
lol just lol....
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:52:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Ulstan
Edited by: Ulstan on 11/09/2009 16:54:20
Originally by: Suukovesta
In addition to that he always warps out when things get tough. Or he cancels warp and warps in even after the jammers, to make sure that he won't get primaried. He then cycles through the hostile fleet with a tackle mod or a gun and warps out again.
Always warps out?
You don't think this might be a slight exaggeration?
http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=136419
Lol how lame, you are one of Psy's known alts.
You post a mail with your alt to prove what exactly ? That you didn't run away in a certain fight, when it was safe for you ?
Your cowardice in battles is obvious to everyone who was in a fleet with you in the last weeks. Either you run like a chicken and leave the fleet members die, or you bring cheap trash that doesn't help the fleet at all.
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:22:00 -
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Some people who have been harassed by this coward even sell their characters after a while as shown here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1179924
This Udan was one of the sad victims, after Psyflame got his facebook page.
And even after Udan resigned and offered his character for sale, Psyflame continues his harassment against him. When people don't agree with Psyflame, he tries to intimidate them, like an hour ago for example:
Quote:
[10:47:33] Psyflame > I believe udan is banned again.
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[10:48:33] Netherby > That's somewhat funny after your RL threats yesterday psy...
[10:49:07] Psyflame > what?<br>My corpmate had to report you to the police for your harassment.<br>I think you are walking a thin line here dude
People should be careful with giving out any rl information, Netherby sums it up quite well, how Psyflame and his corpmates are abusing them:
Quote:
[10:52:21] Netherby > Well psyflames method is to google their face book page then insult them in caldari militia chat while threatening them with real life attacks
This has nothing to do with the so called harshness of EvE, it's internet bullying by a mentally unstable person, people shouldn't applaud this behaviour but stand up against it.
We can only hope that he and his corp leave Caldari militia soon and pity the alliance that they might join.
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