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Bossy Lady
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.12 08:24:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:FYI before you go talking about why a high-sec exhumer should sacrifice yield you might want to check with people that mine in 0.0.
You will find they don't sacrifice one little bit yield to mine in Null.
Now why do you think a high-sec miner should there sacrifice yield ?
Because the nullsec hulks organise with hundreds of fellow players, and usually have to pay refining taxes for the privilege as well.
When you too put the effort into co-ordinating with a large group then you too will gain benefits from doing so.
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Bossy Lady
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:09:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:[Hulk, New Setup 2]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Mining Drone II x5
37k ehp against blasters but hey I guess 15% more yield is more important than surviving because CCP will make hisec safer for you right? Expensive, couldn't fly it in a 50M SP industry alt I selected when I imported it in EFT (so it's also very SP demanding), requires +4% CPU even with all skills to V, actual tank is 32k. I prefer Rubyporto's fits by a large margin.
It's not that "SP-demanding". I mean god forbid people who complain about the Hulk's tank be expected to train up shield tanking. Or that people who whine about how their hulk costs 300M yet they can't afford a PG implant or a Navy MAPC. (Or you can lose a few EHP and change one of the CDFEs to an ACR.)
He said 37k EHp vs Blasters - Hulks have T2 Gallente resists. That fit has 32k EHP vs omni damage. (Gang bonuses can add a fair bit on that, with a Warfare Link Tengu raising it to around 38k omni, if memory serves.)
EHP vs Blasters is relevent because Catalysts are the go-to cheap gank ship. Once you're past the threshold of dying to a single Cat, then you're in "specific target" territory; you'll only lose you Hulk if a gang decide to specifically target you rather than killing 2-3 other guys for the same effort.
EHP vs RF EMP Large is the next threshold; once you can survive 2 Tornado volleys, then you can make it uneconomic to gank you under any circumstances. The fit above will do that. That's the point of it.
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Bossy Lady
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.06.12 14:11:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Simetraz wrote:FYI before you go talking about why a high-sec exhumer should sacrifice yield you might want to check with people that mine in 0.0.
You will find they don't sacrifice one little bit yield to mine in Null.
Now why do you think a high-sec miner should there sacrifice yield ?
So move to null? The difference being, of course, that out in null once your hulk is pointed its going to die tanked or not.
No no no, haven't you been reading GD at all? Nullsec is a happy safe wonderland where Hulks roam carefree and untouched, don't you know?
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Bossy Lady
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2012.06.13 06:36:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
But...but..but... why should I train fitting skills that don't improve my yield?
It did not even touch your mind the thought that maybe not everybody trains indy characters for mining to begin with, and much less they had the time to train the months required for your fancy fittings, eh?
So the game should be balanced around people who don't train core skills or investigate fitting options?
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