You do realise that these prices are still lower than several years ago right?

Well of course I realize that when Battleships cost half a billion. I'm saying that I really doubt mineral prices will ever fall back down to pre-change levels. Unless CCP decides to add another mineral faucet like they did with drone alloys.

People are dumping their large stockpile minerals and selling them at the high prices, but eventually once that dump is gone mineral prices will raise up to a new a equilibrium. It would not be surprising if Tier 3 Battleships became 300 million isk.

That is not a bad thing.

Oh no I'm not worried at all about the higher prices of ships, I am actually profiting from the increasing price of minerals.

Sure, if you like the population of EVE to be players who refuse endanger their expensive ships because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to grind back the money to replace them.

If you think people are risk-averse carebears now, wait until the cost of ships hits an all-time high.

Sure, if you like the population of EVE to be players who refuse endanger their expensive ships because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to grind back the money to replace them.

If you think people are risk-averse carebears now, wait until the cost of ships hits an all-time high.

They will swap to cheaper ships which means more T1 cruisers which, frankly are much more fun in pvp.

Sure, if you like the population of EVE to be players who refuse endanger their expensive ships because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to grind back the money to replace them.

If you think people are risk-averse carebears now, wait until the cost of ships hits an all-time high.

PS: I hear the Goons had a level 5 CTA mining op not to long ago, how did that go? LOL at Goons mining for their own ships.

You do realise that these prices are still lower than several years ago right?

No, it's a good thing because it might entice people into flying smaller ships in larger numbers, thereby creating more variety in what you see on the battlefield.

The only reason this is true is because intro prices are always out of wack due to lack of information and wild speculation by marketeers. I bought my first hulk for 500 mill... not because that was the real value but because there were so few in the beginning and people were still wondering where the price was going to land. Same with my first orca at 800 million.

So no shocker or surprising realization forthcoming.

Because clearly, even more blobs are the best thing for EVE PvP.

Sure, if you like the population of EVE to be players who refuse endanger their expensive ships because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to grind back the money to replace them.

If you think people are risk-averse carebears now, wait until the cost of ships hits an all-time high.

But since that time several years ago, you have many many new players who never saw those old prices. Who the hell is gonna fight when a ship that was 50 Million ISK today is 300 Million ISK tomorrow, and the time it takes for a newer player to earn that ISK is rediculous? I dunno, it sounds like crap to me...and I dont want to go back to crappy T1 Frigates because they are cheaper but now still cost as much as a Drake did last week...

Who said anything about blobs?

Smaller ships in larger numbers, as in more smaller ships will be used, replacing those large, expensive ships.

A possible way to prevent the skyrocket of mineral price is the complete removal of the insurance system. Doing away with the insurance would remove an isk faucet from the economy.

Why is insurance an isk faucet? Its simple:

You buy a ship from the seller for 100 million isk. Even if you didn't insure the ship, you would receive maybe about 30-40 million back from the ship loss from insurance.

The money given to the seller would not change, but the buyer of the ship gets 30-40 million in place of destroyed minerals.

As a result 40 million is injected into the economy, causing inflation and price raise.


But I assume removing the insurance system would create a massive wave of rage from many players. So I doubt this

solution would never come to light.

With the removal of drone loot, it seems that its the final nail on the coffin of a mining minerals with guns, along with removal of meta 0 modules from npc wrecks.

Since people can no longer really mine mineral with weapons anymore, actual rock mining is now the only real source of minerals. Mining however is very boring and still a very low paying venture despite minerals changes, not to mention with the countless ganks against highsec miners. I really doubt people will start jumping on to mining so easily, it will take a long time for the number of miners to significantly increase. Even then I doubt they could ever mine as much as legions of ratters in the Drone Regions could pull.

With all the changes made, I find it hard to believe that mining minerals will return the supply and prices to pre-change levels.

We can expect Tier 3 Battleships to stay at 200+ million for a good while.

It would change 0.0 a little maybe, since loosing a big pile of BS is more expensive... but if you bring enough of those large ships the opposition is less likely to risk their smaller BS fleet since the cost of loosing is proportionally much higher than before. T1 Cruisers aren't going to work well against a good Battleship fleet.

Though since its the base minerals that are being effected the most we will see more T2 and T3 Cruiser fleets... specifically Tengu blobs.

Tier 3 BCs can pick up the slack from less BS, in the form of similar dmg projection but lesser staying power (even though they have much improved mobility) and more vulnerability to smaller ships like frigates.

I'd be really surprised if bringing a T1 Cruiser to a CTA in Alliances across EVE becomes an accepted norm... what is more likely is that alliances with weak industrial backbones that rely on pure monetary income will have a harder time competing with alliances that have good infrastructure. I guess that is a good thing.

I still see the mission loot as a major income of minerals into the system. Does anyone have any numbers to either back up or decline my opinion?

Didn't CCP remove all meta 0 loot from rat drops?