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Posted - 2004.10.19 15:08:00 -
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I still "dont get" the whole warzone thing.
Eve has a standings system. You put your enemies to -10 and your friends to +10. You kill the yellow boxes, leave the blue boxes and if in doubt hold your fire on white boxes.
Most entrances to 0.0 are warzones. Pf346 is a also a warzone, BVIP is a warzone, p3en is a warzone. Every bottleneck system is 0.0 is a warzone. Which wars are ongoing in these places vary but there are always wars there. Does this give me the right to kill everyone not allied with my faction in this warzone? It does not.
This is simply a excuse to gank stuff.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 15:08:00 -
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I still "dont get" the whole warzone thing.
Eve has a standings system. You put your enemies to -10 and your friends to +10. You kill the yellow boxes, leave the blue boxes and if in doubt hold your fire on white boxes.
Most entrances to 0.0 are warzones. Pf346 is a also a warzone, BVIP is a warzone, p3en is a warzone. Every bottleneck system is 0.0 is a warzone. Which wars are ongoing in these places vary but there are always wars there. Does this give me the right to kill everyone not allied with my faction in this warzone? It does not.
This is simply a excuse to gank stuff.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 19/10/2004 16:39:29
Of course there are warzones. Random ganking in warzones is wrong. What is so wrong with only shooting your enemies? What benefit is there to your war efforts by killing them? How does it improve your K/D ratio? Only killing your enemies counts in wars. Anything else is random ganking.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 19/10/2004 16:39:29
Of course there are warzones. Random ganking in warzones is wrong. What is so wrong with only shooting your enemies? What benefit is there to your war efforts by killing them? How does it improve your K/D ratio? Only killing your enemies counts in wars. Anything else is random ganking.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 16:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Arud
When is attacking neutrals or unknowns justified in a warzone?
I dont think it is, neither does my corp. i am not talking about killing of 1 day old alts repeatedly scouting your fleet compositions.
Ill give u an example of what im talking about. In our last campaign with TPS(the pirate syndicate) there were a lot of corps who were mining in vale. They were not allied to TPS, nor where they pirates. They had paid TPS not to shoot at them. We were at war with TPS. It was a warzone. We didnt KOS them as we thought it would be dishonourable. They didnt want to fight us, they didnt want to pirate. By your edict you would of KOSed them. You could argue that they werent neutrals as they had paid off pirates. There were other corporations , miners npc hunters going about there business and we didnt kill them. We treated them as neutral as they were neutrals.
Granted that Hed is somewhat unique, and there are fewer unaligned corporations in this area than other areas, but the principals should remain the same, in all regions. This policy will only lead to more friendly -fire incidentes mark my words.
@darth shut up mate , im trying to have a constructive argument here. Its the FORUM remember nobody will realise you are being IRONIC but i do share you're exasperation....
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Posted - 2004.10.19 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
When is attacking neutrals or unknowns justified in a warzone?
I dont think it is, neither does my corp. i am not talking about killing of 1 day old alts repeatedly scouting your fleet compositions.
Ill give u an example of what im talking about. In our last campaign with TPS(the pirate syndicate) there were a lot of corps who were mining in vale. They were not allied to TPS, nor where they pirates. They had paid TPS not to shoot at them. We were at war with TPS. It was a warzone. We didnt KOS them as we thought it would be dishonourable. They didnt want to fight us, they didnt want to pirate. By your edict you would of KOSed them. You could argue that they werent neutrals as they had paid off pirates. There were other corporations , miners npc hunters going about there business and we didnt kill them. We treated them as neutral as they were neutrals.
Granted that Hed is somewhat unique, and there are fewer unaligned corporations in this area than other areas, but the principals should remain the same, in all regions. This policy will only lead to more friendly -fire incidentes mark my words.
@darth shut up mate, im trying to have a constructive argument here. Its the FORUM remember nobody will realise you are being IRONIC but i do share you're exasperation....
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Posted - 2004.10.19 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Did i miss something ? Are you neutral if u payed MF to protect yourself ? arnt u helping MF to kill your ships ? no ? please explain what i dont get ?
U mean that they dont wanted to fight you, cause they had payed tps to fight you ?
What are talking about. This thread has nothing to do with Mercenary Forces? Nor hiring any mercenaries for that matter. I am talkig about miners who were neutral but paid tps not to shoot them.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Did i miss something ? Are you neutral if u payed MF to protect yourself ? arnt u helping MF to kill your ships ? no ? please explain what i dont get ?
U mean that they dont wanted to fight you, cause they had payed tps to fight you ?
What are talking about. This thread has nothing to do with Mercenary Forces? Nor hiring any mercenaries for that matter. I am talkig about miners who were neutral but paid tps not to shoot them.
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Posted - 2004.10.19 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Celestial 'less two' apocs :)
Thats pretty poor smak lallante even for u. Count the Apocs lost at the end of the war before bragging n the forums. Think the score on the shinra war so far is 2:1 so far so its pretty close and early days
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Posted - 2004.10.19 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Celestial 'less two' apocs :)
Thats pretty poor smak lallante even for u. Count the Apocs lost at the end of the war before bragging n the forums. Think the score on the shinra war so far is 2:1 so far so its pretty close and early days
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