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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:18:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Hieronymus Pendergast wrote:James 315 wrote:
The important thing right now is that we work together to get rid of the highsec miners. Let's not get distracted with other things. Once the highsec miners are gone, we can worry about what comes next.
Being a fairly new player, what is wrong with the high sec miners? Just curious. I'm new here myself, but as I understand it, some view high-sec mining as generally not fitting the philosophy of EVE. The EVE play experience is intended to be a harsh and unforgiving one where players must assume a certain amount of risk in order to be rewarded. Traditionally, high security mining means getting a steady flow of income while being semi-AFK. Hulkageddon adds risk to high security mining while rewarding those willing to team up to gank ships. As such, you can see it as a form of social engineering. There are likely economic incentives behind Hulkageddon - people mining in low and null sec their minerals become more valuable - and Goonswarm likely enjoys being the talk all over town, but that seems to be the heart of it. That and collecting carebear tears.
I think you'll do well in EVE Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:21:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Here you will daily find open apologies to WW2 dictators, death wishes put on top of whole categories and so on. All egregiously unmoderated.
Yeah the mods should ban anyone who posts an opinion contrary to "hisec carebears should be 100% safe" eh |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1090
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:27:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Here you will daily find open apologies to WW2 dictators, death wishes put on top of whole categories and so on. All egregiously unmoderated. Yeah the mods should ban anyone who posts an opinion contrary to "hisec carebears should be 100% safe"
Yeah, because the rest of the world forums disallow expressing opinions .
Oh wait, they disallow saying the opinion like a douche, that's it.
Should send all those nasty persons back some decades ago, here they used to wash spoiled childs mouths with soap, they learned fast to be civil. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Embrace My Hate
Barr Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:48:00 -
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Ditra Vorthran wrote:
Are Mittani and his Goons (and their allies) willing to break EvE for no other reason than because they can?
What greater reason could there be? This is the ESSENCE of EVE.
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Sellendis
The Ares project
137
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:50:00 -
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Its not that i like Goons, but miners whine more then everyone else in this community combined. A lot of miners are bots, they dont have to admit it and people dont care.
This is a game to be played, you wanna tell us that from 5.5k systems and 2k WH + roids in missions and exploration, you cant find a safe pocket away from gankers to mine in peace??
Its a sandbox game, you play with other people, they kill you or help you on their own, wanna have a safe environment to play? Find another game.
Or... Stay aligned, keep an eye on local, dont AFK mine, ect... |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1090
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:55:00 -
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Sellendis wrote:Its not that i like Goons, but miners whine more then everyone else in this community combined. A lot of miners are bots, they dont have to admit it and people dont care.
1) Bots don't post on the forums. 2) Those who own the bots run 8+ ships at the same time and have constant replacements ready. Their business does not rely on bots staying alive but from bots quickly getting back to mine. 3) The worst botters aka RMTers not only don't post on the forums but they live in 0.0, where nobody see them, nobody report them and their renting alliance wink at their illicit activities while cashing in good money.
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ashley Eoner
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.06.03 07:17:00 -
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haha nullbear tears. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 08:18:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:haha nullbear tears.
Haha npc alt posting pubbie tears eh |
HaxTis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.06.03 08:20:00 -
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What is a nullbear? Some freakish monstrosity from the void? a Yao Guai? It sounds awesome. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.06.03 08:22:00 -
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HaxTis wrote:What is a nullbear? Some freakish monstrosity from the void? a Yao Guai? It sounds awesome.
Some dumb word coined by pubbies upset over the fact that people make isk in nullsec eh |
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Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.06.03 09:39:00 -
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Ditra Vorthran wrote:Mittani justifies his actions by trying to make the game better, saving it from the idiotic, unwashed masses who never cared to learn how to play.
those are called goons |
Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
6
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:41:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:slippery slope fallacy
next
No it's not.
a) Not all slippery slope arguments are fallacious.
b) The OP doesn't present an argument but rather an exploration of possible consequences. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:44:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:Mittani justifies his actions by trying to make the game better, saving it from the idiotic, unwashed masses who never cared to learn how to play.
those are called goons
The art of changing the game using IG rules and content , is too complicated to understand for the average anonymous pubbie.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1521
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:45:00 -
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I totally agree on everything.
Let's all stop shooting miners. It's pointless.
INSTEAD, let's concentrate on autopiloting/afk (shuttles/frigates and their) PODs !
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pussnheels
393
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Posted - 2012.06.03 10:56:00 -
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first of all the mittani is a butthurt idiotic child who i have no respect for what so ever, his goons are different i will respect any of them ingame and out of game, but their CEO well enough said
this all debate isn't about ganking hulks anymore this has becomes a war of word between 2 groups accusing each other of wanting to turn this game in either a themepark mmo or into a arcade game mmo, and the more i think about it the more stupid this all debate gets , to be honest both ideas will only hurt the game very badly
the mittani walks a very thin line between being the evil goon ceo and encouraging right out hardcore griefing with the intention to force people to leave my opinion anyway
EVE biggest strenght its sand box also becomes its biggest weakness when one group tries to enforce their will and visions of the game onto the majority
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
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Posted - 2012.06.03 12:18:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:James 315 wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:High sec miners are currently winning and lauging at ALL the gankers. Laughing at you. I haven't gotten that impression from all their doom-and-gloom threads the last few days! As you should know, appearances can be deceaving. I would not be surprised that more high sec miners continue to operate then ever before. Those fiendishly clever miners...They wanted permanent Hulkageddon all along...To draw us in...And that's when they strike!
I guess it was their plan all along and I now have a feeling that a permanent Hulkageddon will only make them stronger. They are relentless and continously adapt. The constent whines on the forums is only a ruse to make the gankers believe that suicide attacks are succeeding in puting an end to mining activities in high sec. But in reality, their may be more mining in high sec then ever before.
The suicide gankers are loosing the war. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1100
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Posted - 2012.06.03 13:50:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Ditra Vorthran wrote:Mittani justifies his actions by trying to make the game better, saving it from the idiotic, unwashed masses who never cared to learn how to play.
those are called goons The art of changing the game using IG rules and content , is too complicated to understand for the average anonymous pubbie.
I suspect the art of acting like douches inside and outside the game might play a little part in this.
Also, the fun thing of emergent gameplay, is that it performs exactly like emergent turds sticking out of a pond: they are easily seen.
CCP nerfed plenty of totally legit emergent gameplay, from nano to unprobeable T3, from making concord untankable to grip webbing stuff. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results but...
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Spikeflach
Echo's of Liberty Dominatus Atrum Mortis
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Posted - 2012.06.03 18:09:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:haha nullbear tears. Haha npc alt posting pubbie tears
I think your keyboard is broken, you spell it Puppy. :)
I don't believe anyone truely knows what is considered Tears anymore. The Term is used for just about any post anymore.
The real Issue with the forums is the snide comments and use of derogatory terms for the groups of people in eve.
Grow a little respect already and you won't have to deal with the constant threads you think are whining. |
Selinate
944
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Posted - 2012.06.03 19:03:00 -
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goons just waged some sort of fail campaign against people who say stuff like cool story bro and girls don't play games (or something like that), but they still insist on using the word pubbie... |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
751
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Posted - 2012.06.03 19:15:00 -
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Spikeflach wrote: I think your keyboard is broken, you spell it Puppy. :)
Might want to learn your enemies slang so you can understand them.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pubbie Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Luigi Thirty
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.03 19:42:00 -
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Ditra Vorthran wrote: Missiongeddon becomes Incursiongeddon.
Tried that and was quite successful until CCP nerfed them into to oblivion so nobody does them anymore.
Ditra Vorthran wrote: Incursiongeddon becomes Marketgeddon.
I think we're quite successful at Marketgeddon, at least until they nerf Tech.
Yes, the real reason Hulkageddon exists is so that CCP will finally realize that they need to nerf Hulks and high-sec mining into oblivion much like incursions and Tech. |
Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
5
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Posted - 2012.06.03 19:58:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:If you want to keep your sanity you might want to close this forum now and never open it again. So damn true...
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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
Perkone Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:06:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:
EVE biggest strenght its sand box also becomes its biggest weakness when one group tries to enforce their will and visions of the game onto the majority
Yup. I've never minded the threat of being ganked while mining. It does make the game more interesting. But the unceasing wail of stupidity and unthinking attitude unleashed by the mittani.......and utterly destroying the core idea of Hulkageddon....geez, it is like an idiot Prince declaring christmas everyday. It gets old. Everyone will eventually leave.
I hesitate to think what the real motivation is. But then....there probably isn't any real motivation. It is indeed for lulz and idiocy.
The mittani.....so f**cking creative, yet so so dumb. Sad really. Welp, he can have fun here all he wants. All by himself soon if the population graphs are accurate.
If he wants to make the game burn, I'll gladly watch the attempt from the Outside. Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Jalabaster
Mechanical Eagles Inc. The Ancients.
12
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Posted - 2012.06.03 20:46:00 -
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There's people out there mining. Game's not broken. "when a ship is blown up, the pilot usually winds up replacing it. This drives the economy, steadies inflation, and gives industrialists a reason to manufacture. In contrast, creating isk while never losing any items has the unfortunate reverse effect on the market, plus it isn't really any fun." Jala |
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