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Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:10:00 - [31] I am tired of arguing with you to be honest. If a military force shot at an unarmed salvager stripping some wires from a pile of scrap, then that military force would be subject to judicial hearings or punnishment from a higher authority. Oh, much like it is in EVE.... ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Lewyrus Jugis Modo Utopia THE KLINGONS	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:10:00 - [32] Salvage yourself in-mission. Go away from mission hubs. Fit ECCM and hope they go for easy targets. It's adapt or die, not adapt or whine. Criminal flagging would result these whiners like you being blown up. I wonder why resist these proposals?
Brechan Skene	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:16:00 - [33] I hate to say this but when salvaging first came out you were required to remove the loot before you were able to access the salvage. CCP later changed it to the way it is handled now. That is you do not need to remove the loot before you can salvage. However from your reaction, I am just calling you troll. No goat for you. Back to the bridge you go
crofoot	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:16:00 - [34] Edited by: crofoot on 02/09/2009 10:18:01 Originally by: Jint Hikaru I am tired of arguing with you to be honest. If a military force shot at an unarmed salvager stripping some wires from a pile of scrap, then that military force would be subject to judicial hearings or punnishment from a higher authority. Oh, much like it is in EVE.... Oh your so right, im sure noone in iraq has been shot for being near piles of scrap or dead car hulks (I.E.D's wink wink) think before you type dude your making a fool of yourself.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:24:00 - [35] Yep... I'm the one making myself look stupid.... ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:35:00 - [36] Originally by: crofoot Edited by: crofoot on 02/09/2009 10:18:01 Originally by: Jint Hikaru I am tired of arguing with you to be honest. If a military force shot at an unarmed salvager stripping some wires from a pile of scrap, then that military force would be subject to judicial hearings or punnishment from a higher authority. Oh, much like it is in EVE.... Oh your so right, im sure noone in iraq has been shot for being near piles of scrap or dead car hulks (I.E.D's wink wink) think before you type dude your making a fool of yourself. Real life laws do not apply to EVE game mechanics. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.09.02 10:35:00 - [37] Have you considered salavaging the stuff before they do? or, if you think that salavage theft is so damm profitable, fast and safe, why don't you give it a go and learn their ways? Do it for two weeks. You will learn at least 2 fool proof ways to stop them dead and another 4 that are effective in over 90% of all cases. And then you might realise just how ridiculous these posts are, and you can come into the light. Or even a week... you'll learn more in a week trying it, than you will in a hundred threads whining about it.
Mad Maulkin	Posted - 2009.09.02 12:28:00 - [38] Originally by: crofoot No they have their mains probing and they send out 5 day old characters in kestrels(which can be trained in less than 24 hours including salvaging). And as far as being protected from them, it's not I that need the protection, they are the ones that have concord backing them, I am sitting in a 1/4 billion dollar hac watching a 200k ship on a trial account take my salvage. If they want to be fair put a timer on it. Make it stealing for the first hour or two then give them their hour to pillage. All will be happy and if it is going to waste the let em have it. Thats the way it should be. I agree salvaging is a great way of life and great income, but there should be a time period that gives the owner/killer time to salvage, if he/she/they don't come back it changes color and its free game. Omg a logical fair compromise. Who would have thought. =) Omg its not your salvage... Salvage as you go and there is nothing for them to take... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Mad Maulkin	Posted - 2009.09.02 12:30:00 - [39] Edited by: Mad Maulkin on 02/09/2009 12:35:39 Originally by: crofoot Edited by: crofoot on 02/09/2009 10:18:01 Originally by: Jint Hikaru I am tired of arguing with you to be honest. If a military force shot at an unarmed salvager stripping some wires from a pile of scrap, then that military force would be subject to judicial hearings or punnishment from a higher authority. Oh, much like it is in EVE.... Oh your so right, im sure noone in iraq has been shot for being near piles of scrap or dead car hulks (I.E.D's wink wink) think before you type dude your making a fool of yourself. ... wow, a new level of stupid... the day you can boobytrap wrecks in eve, i guarante you, you can shoot them... unless concord takes them first... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
ropnes	Posted - 2009.09.02 12:40:00 - [40] With the current amount of whine threads it wouldn't surprise me if CCP makes salvaging a flaggable offense. Oh what a glorious day that would be

Robert Caldera	Posted - 2009.09.02 12:49:00 - [41] the most will continue salvaging then because no BS can really hurt a fast frig while giving them the opportunity to shoot back easily and get nice kills for free. I've tried to get aggro from a mission runner a whole evening once by looting stuff in order to gank him, that failed, no MR shot at me ever :( Rather than making salvaging a flaggable offence, they should remove loot ownership from NPC wrecks, this would solve the whinage in the long term. Its ridiculous you get a legal ownership to pirated stuff like its implemented now.
Mad Maulkin	Posted - 2009.09.02 13:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Robert Caldera the most will continue salvaging then because no BS can really hurt a fast frig while giving them the opportunity to shoot back easily and get nice kills for free. I've tried to get aggro from a mission runner a whole evening once by looting stuff in order to gank him, that failed, no MR shot at me ever :( Rather than making salvaging a flaggable offence, they should remove loot ownership from NPC wrecks, this would solve the whinage in the long term. Its ridiculous you get a legal ownership to pirated stuff like its implemented now. i think the problem is to diffiranciate between type of cans, they'd have to make a spacial type of loot can, that did not fall under the flagging rule,and open it for tractoring, at the moment loot cans are jetcans and those are the only ones that can be tractored... that belong to you but i think loot should still belong to the MR, it's complete modules, that you just put in your hold... wrecks are different, since they need a module activated on them, like rats and roids... Think of wrecks the same way you do rat ships, its not yours, you need to activte something on it to extract the reward... someone can shoot a rat from under you, someone can slavage a wreck from under you, and someone can mine out a roid right under your nose, bad form, but legal... should we change all those mechanincs as well? imagine pop-up when you try to mine a roid someone else is on? "This roid is being mined by Fluffy McCarebear, continue with your operation and you will be flagged by Concord!" come on... "This ship is being shoot at by Miss Fuzzybunny, you can not attack!" This seems as absurd to me as wreck ownership... remove the corp tag aswell and make them free for all to tractor i say, if they are empty... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2009.09.02 13:10:00 - [43] Edited by: Robert Caldera on 02/09/2009 13:12:28 usually I dont care about missions and stuff but the problem is they cannot differentiate between loot and salvage. They think if a part is assigned to them (loot), they should get everything. Since the whine goes on and will never stop, I would rather remove the loot ownership entirely, forcing their lazy asses to leave heavily populated areas and run for their loot instead of just sitting fat asses on the granted stuff and whine-begging for more.
nafiy gnaw	Posted - 2009.09.02 13:15:00 - [44] I am more tired of whining than thieves.
Gad'ui	Posted - 2009.09.02 14:38:00 - [45] Edited by: Gad''ui on 02/09/2009 14:43:14 why do people respond to these if all they have nothing constructive to say PS i come into these threads to read the ironic statement "Eve is a harsh tuff world so you shouldn't be a able to shoot me when i **** you off" Love it!
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.09.02 15:02:00 - [46] This thread, has actually made me consider salvaging peoples mission loot. Looking forward to all the tears.
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.09.02 15:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Mag's This thread, has actually made me consider salvaging peoples mission loot. Looking forward to all the tears. I was just thinking to myself "I wonder if the increase in ninja salvagers is directly proportional to the increase in these stupid threads" If so...props to all the ninjas for bringing these glorious tears. _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
nafiy gnaw	Posted - 2009.09.02 15:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Gad'ui Edited by: Gad''ui on 02/09/2009 14:43:14 why do people respond to these if all they have nothing constructive to say PS i come into these threads to read the ironic statement "Eve is a harsh tuff world so you shouldn't be a able to shoot me when i ** you off" Love it! Then the solution is rather simple, dont get **ed off when someone takes something that isnt yours.
Gad'ui	Posted - 2009.09.02 15:55:00 - [49] Originally by: nafiy gnaw Originally by: Gad'ui Edited by: Gad''ui on 02/09/2009 14:43:14 why do people respond to these if all they have nothing constructive to say PS i come into these threads to read the ironic statement "Eve is a harsh tuff world so you shouldn't be a able to shoot me when i ** you off" Love it! Then the solution is rather simple, dont get ed off when someone takes something that isnt yours. Then don't get ed off when people get ed off that you just **ed them off
nafiy gnaw	Posted - 2009.09.02 16:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Gad'ui Originally by: nafiy gnaw Originally by: Gad'ui Edited by: Gad''ui on 02/09/2009 14:43:14 why do people respond to these if all they have nothing constructive to say PS i come into these threads to read the ironic statement "Eve is a harsh tuff world so you shouldn't be a able to shoot me when i ** you off" Love it! Then the solution is rather simple, dont get ed off when someone takes something that isnt yours. Then don't get ed off when people get ed off that you just ed them off If taking something that isnt yours ** you off that much, then its your problem, not mine

Izztyrr Maemtor Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.09.02 16:58:00 - [51] Originally by: XXSketchxx Originally by: Mag's This thread, has actually made me consider salvaging peoples mission loot. Looking forward to all the tears. I was just thinking to myself "I wonder if the increase in ninja salvagers is directly proportional to the increase in these stupid threads" If so...props to all the ninjas for bringing these glorious tears. These QQ salvage threads create a lot of ninjas. People see all the carebear tears and want to join in the fun. You two guys should read this guide. It will teach you everything you need to know.
Paul Clavet Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.09.02 17:11:00 - [52] Originally by: ropnes With the current amount of whine threads it wouldn't surprise me if CCP makes salvaging a flaggable offense. Oh what a glorious day that would be We'd have to get a new killboard host. Maybe a dedicated server. Originally by: Gad'ui Edited by: Gad''ui on 02/09/2009 14:43:14 why do people respond to these if all they have nothing constructive to say PS i come into these threads to read the ironic statement "Eve is a harsh tuff world so you shouldn't be a able to shoot me when i **** you off" Love it! Was there something constructive said in your post? Just thought it was worth mentioning... ---- Suddenly Ninjas Blog: My Loot, Your Tears


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