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Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.21 06:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. Thing is is that I'd rather be able to take the damage and boost LONGER, than have a few extra shield boost per run. Have you looked at the cap of the cerebrus and compared it to the Caracal? notice its much much much much better, so much better in fact that you probally wouldnt need any cap mods to run a med shield booster. Eitherway 2x PDU IIs would be much better, trust me .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.21 06:02:00 - [32] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. Thing is is that I'd rather be able to take the damage and boost LONGER, than have a few extra shield boost per run. Have you looked at the cap of the cerebrus and compared it to the Caracal? notice its much much much much better, so much better in fact that you probally wouldnt need any cap mods to run a med shield booster. Eitherway 2x PDU IIs would be much better, trust me .................
Ryu Goto	Posted - 2004.11.07 19:14:00 - [33] id like to request a sacrilege setup, and because of its setup layout im thinking that you could both armor and shield tank it (if i were to go solo)?
Ryu Goto	Posted - 2004.11.07 19:14:00 - [34] id like to request a sacrilege setup, and because of its setup layout im thinking that you could both armor and shield tank it (if i were to go solo)?
Meridius	Posted - 2004.11.07 19:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Ryu Goto id like to request a sacrilege setup, and because of its setup layout im thinking that you could both armor and shield tank it (if i were to go solo)? I tried shield tanking it for kicks, it sucks ass. --- 3x Heavy Pulse II 1x Domination Heavy 2x Arb Heavy -- 4x Cap Charger II - 1x True Sansha Med Rep (thx cruz) 1x Med Rep II 1x Faction Thermal 1x Officer Passive (26.6% to all) 1x Energized Passive (20% to all) Can easily drop a cap charger for a ruptor or what not, everything runs 24/7. ________________________________________________________
Meridius	Posted - 2004.11.07 19:42:00 - [36] Originally by: Ryu Goto id like to request a sacrilege setup, and because of its setup layout im thinking that you could both armor and shield tank it (if i were to go solo)? I tried shield tanking it for kicks, it sucks ass. --- 3x Heavy Pulse II 1x Domination Heavy 2x Arb Heavy -- 4x Cap Charger II - 1x True Sansha Med Rep (thx cruz) 1x Med Rep II 1x Faction Thermal 1x Officer Passive (26.6% to all) 1x Energized Passive (20% to all) Can easily drop a cap charger for a ruptor or what not, everything runs 24/7. ________________________________________________________
Namelesz	Posted - 2004.11.08 06:45:00 - [37] I am working on an Ishtar setup now, finding it hard to get it just right. I am thinking the 3 turrets I will use Ion blasters, named or t2 of course, which leaves 2 more high slots so most likely will be medium nos or nuets. But then now you are running out of grid so need to fit RCU II or PDU IIs. Now the Mids, I was thinkin some form of tackling, so maybe a webber and scram, 1 10mn mwd II, and then 2 cap rechargers. Now the lows are tricky cause you gotta fit it based on what your high slots require, but I would love to add more armor resistances to the tank . . . Havin trouble lockin this down. . . . -Namelesz "I never run away. I merely advance in the opposite direction." -Judicator "She was so dumb, the smartest thing to ever come out of her mouth was my *****."
Namelesz	Posted - 2004.11.08 06:45:00 - [38] I am working on an Ishtar setup now, finding it hard to get it just right. I am thinking the 3 turrets I will use Ion blasters, named or t2 of course, which leaves 2 more high slots so most likely will be medium nos or nuets. But then now you are running out of grid so need to fit RCU II or PDU IIs. Now the Mids, I was thinkin some form of tackling, so maybe a webber and scram, 1 10mn mwd II, and then 2 cap rechargers. Now the lows are tricky cause you gotta fit it based on what your high slots require, but I would love to add more armor resistances to the tank . . . Havin trouble lockin this down. . . . -Namelesz "I never run away. I merely advance in the opposite direction." -Judicator "She was so dumb, the smartest thing to ever come out of her mouth was my *****."
Sc0rpion	Posted - 2004.11.08 07:15:00 - [39] Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay Dual MWD setups will be nerfed in 2 months. Better start thinking of a different mod for the third slot. :) "The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously." -Freidrich Nietzche
Sc0rpion	Posted - 2004.11.08 07:15:00 - [40] Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay Dual MWD setups will be nerfed in 2 months. Better start thinking of a different mod for the third slot. :) "The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously." -Freidrich Nietzche
Elithiomel	Posted - 2004.11.08 07:37:00 - [41] Running this setup on an Ishtar atm 3 x Heavy Ion II 1 x Medium Nos 1 x small smartbomb 1 x TS-8 MWD 2 x Cap recharger 1 x Tracking comp II 1 x Medium Cap Battery 1 x 400mm Tungsten plate 2 x Energised adaptive Nano 1 x Energised kinetic hardener 1 x Small Armour repair II 8 heavy drones 20 medium drones Still fiddling a bit with the setup as i keep hitting cpu limits. Also waiting for some skills to complete so i can run more of the tech II modules. It has been reasonably effective for rat hunting so far. Not sure how it would last in pvp (not too long i think). --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
Elithiomel	Posted - 2004.11.08 07:37:00 - [42] Running this setup on an Ishtar atm 3 x Heavy Ion II 1 x Medium Nos 1 x small smartbomb 1 x TS-8 MWD 2 x Cap recharger 1 x Tracking comp II 1 x Medium Cap Battery 1 x 400mm Tungsten plate 2 x Energised adaptive Nano 1 x Energised kinetic hardener 1 x Small Armour repair II 8 heavy drones 20 medium drones Still fiddling a bit with the setup as i keep hitting cpu limits. Also waiting for some skills to complete so i can run more of the tech II modules. It has been reasonably effective for rat hunting so far. Not sure how it would last in pvp (not too long i think). --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.08 09:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Sc0rpion Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay Dual MWD setups will be nerfed in 2 months. Better start thinking of a different mod for the third slot. :) I know.......... The training for a Deimos finishes on 19th as well. Soooooooo annoying. I can't get a good fit for it now, I came up with the following but it leaves you with a free hi slot, bit of a waste but without extensive testing on the cap I don't know if I can fiddle an RCU 2 on there to get a medium nos fitted. 5 * Heavy Ion Blaster 2 Named Webby Tracking Computer 10mn MWD T2 Medium Armor Repairer 2* Energised Adaptive Membrane 2 Cap Relay PDU 2 T2 Mag Field Stab On the principle that you shouldn't have to use the Armor repairer too often because of the insane resistances that should make a fairly survivable ship that hits for insane damage. Unlike the Thorax I can't see the Deimos being better off with small guns, 45% Damage Bonus at Heavy Assault Level 4 is just too much damage to pass up.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.11.08 09:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Sc0rpion Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay Dual MWD setups will be nerfed in 2 months. Better start thinking of a different mod for the third slot. :) I know.......... The training for a Deimos finishes on 19th as well. Soooooooo annoying. I can't get a good fit for it now, I came up with the following but it leaves you with a free hi slot, bit of a waste but without extensive testing on the cap I don't know if I can fiddle an RCU 2 on there to get a medium nos fitted. 5 * Heavy Ion Blaster 2 Named Webby Tracking Computer 10mn MWD T2 Medium Armor Repairer 2* Energised Adaptive Membrane 2 Cap Relay PDU 2 T2 Mag Field Stab On the principle that you shouldn't have to use the Armor repairer too often because of the insane resistances that should make a fairly survivable ship that hits for insane damage. Unlike the Thorax I can't see the Deimos being better off with small guns, 45% Damage Bonus at Heavy Assault Level 4 is just too much damage to pass up.
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.11.08 09:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Elithiomel Running this setup on an Ishtar atm 3 x Heavy Ion II 1 x Medium Nos 1 x small smartbomb 1 x TS-8 MWD 2 x Cap recharger 1 x Tracking comp II 1 x Medium Cap Battery 1 x 400mm Tungsten plate 2 x Energised adaptive Nano 1 x Energised kinetic hardener 1 x Small Armour repair II 8 heavy drones 20 medium drones Still fiddling a bit with the setup as i keep hitting cpu limits. Also waiting for some skills to complete so i can run more of the tech II modules. It has been reasonably effective for rat hunting so far. Not sure how it would last in pvp (not too long i think). swap the plate, rep and the hardeners for CPR's, 1 active expolsive and 1 T2 med rep. ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.11.08 09:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Elithiomel Running this setup on an Ishtar atm 3 x Heavy Ion II 1 x Medium Nos 1 x small smartbomb 1 x TS-8 MWD 2 x Cap recharger 1 x Tracking comp II 1 x Medium Cap Battery 1 x 400mm Tungsten plate 2 x Energised adaptive Nano 1 x Energised kinetic hardener 1 x Small Armour repair II 8 heavy drones 20 medium drones Still fiddling a bit with the setup as i keep hitting cpu limits. Also waiting for some skills to complete so i can run more of the tech II modules. It has been reasonably effective for rat hunting so far. Not sure how it would last in pvp (not too long i think). swap the plate, rep and the hardeners for CPR's, 1 active expolsive and 1 T2 med rep. ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Nieda	Posted - 2004.11.08 13:16:00 - [47] Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.11.08 13:16:00 - [48] Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.11.08 13:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Nieda Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? I'd say the Munnin would be better armor tanked. With a basic 92.5% resistance to EM, and at least 62.5% thermal (doesn't remember exactly), it's already pretty much immune to laser weapons. theorical setup to handle even lv4 missions: 5close range or long range med-sized projectiles, T2 or best named possible 2heavy missile launchers, best named possilbe. Replace them by named rocket launchers or standard launchers if you lack grid/CPU 10MN MWD II Cap recharger II fleeting webbifier (the -90% one) med armor repairer II faction EM hardener faction Therm hardener Gyrostab II cap relay II, if you can afford it That setup can be on the receiving end of an insane number of lasers, and still stay on operation with, I think, more than enough firepower to break open even the toughtest NPC battleship.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.11.08 13:43:00 - [50] Originally by: Nieda Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? I'd say the Munnin would be better armor tanked. With a basic 92.5% resistance to EM, and at least 62.5% thermal (doesn't remember exactly), it's already pretty much immune to laser weapons. theorical setup to handle even lv4 missions: 5close range or long range med-sized projectiles, T2 or best named possible 2heavy missile launchers, best named possilbe. Replace them by named rocket launchers or standard launchers if you lack grid/CPU 10MN MWD II Cap recharger II fleeting webbifier (the -90% one) med armor repairer II faction EM hardener faction Therm hardener Gyrostab II cap relay II, if you can afford it That setup can be on the receiving end of an insane number of lasers, and still stay on operation with, I think, more than enough firepower to break open even the toughtest NPC battleship.
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.08 14:10:00 - [51] mhh i would run on ishtar highs: 250er rails/med nos mids: Multies or dampeners (dampeners may be better) lows: medium tech2 armor repair, energized thingie and 3 cap relays Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.11.08 14:10:00 - [52] mhh i would run on ishtar highs: 250er rails/med nos mids: Multies or dampeners (dampeners may be better) lows: medium tech2 armor repair, energized thingie and 3 cap relays Wanna fly with me?
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.11.08 14:14:00 - [53] Originally by: Nieda Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? Depends on the role. It can do both. Using it as a 720mm Howie platform works better shield tanked, assuming you can overcome the "Never use Cpr with shield tanking" stereotype. It's resistances are enough to allow it to shield tank with 3 meds and play at range. Pain is meant to be felt
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.11.08 14:14:00 - [54] Originally by: Nieda Muninn anyone ? Great shield resistances, but only 3 med slots Setups, ideas ? Depends on the role. It can do both. Using it as a 720mm Howie platform works better shield tanked, assuming you can overcome the "Never use Cpr with shield tanking" stereotype. It's resistances are enough to allow it to shield tank with 3 meds and play at range. Pain is meant to be felt
Nerhtal Al'Thali	Posted - 2004.11.08 15:03:00 - [55] one shield amp allows you to use 3 cpr's :p "Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur "First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto
Nerhtal Al'Thali	Posted - 2004.11.08 15:03:00 - [56] one shield amp allows you to use 3 cpr's :p "Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur "First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.11.08 16:42:00 - [57] Yes, but then you wasted a med slot, and pretty stiff CPU requirments. And 3 PDU with a cap recharger would give you more cap recharge, in addition of the rest of the bonuses, for less CPU. As for shield tanks using cap relays, I think you get more HP boosted per cap with PDU2 or even PDU. your cap recharger rate is less impressive, but that's not the one parameter that truly count.
Shadowsword	Posted - 2004.11.08 16:42:00 - [58] Yes, but then you wasted a med slot, and pretty stiff CPU requirments. And 3 PDU with a cap recharger would give you more cap recharge, in addition of the rest of the bonuses, for less CPU. As for shield tanks using cap relays, I think you get more HP boosted per cap with PDU2 or even PDU. your cap recharger rate is less impressive, but that's not the one parameter that truly count.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.11.08 18:37:00 - [59] I personaly dont think you need shield tank while using 720's. Just keep your range with a MWD and you are fine. Its all about close range and PvP (alltho those ships cost a bunch to be blown apart). Thats where you run off med slots. Nothing more that a (half) gimped minmatar ship. Do we see a patern here ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.
Nieda	Posted - 2004.11.08 18:37:00 - [60] I personaly dont think you need shield tank while using 720's. Just keep your range with a MWD and you are fine. Its all about close range and PvP (alltho those ships cost a bunch to be blown apart). Thats where you run off med slots. Nothing more that a (half) gimped minmatar ship. Do we see a patern here ? --------------------------------------------- 2004.08.12 14:50:32combatYour 720mm Carbine Howitzer I perfectly strikes Guristas Destructor, wrecking for 543.9 damage.

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