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Idara	Posted - 2004.10.20 00:32:00 - [1] I know that lots of people are excited about an Elite ship type that actually looks to be worth the exorberant amounts of ISK, thus, I want to see what setups people will be using. I'm aiming for a Cerberus in the near future as a mission runner, as the Caracal I use now is awesome, and an elite would be even better. Hi 5x Heavy Launchers, XR-3200's ATM Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster 2x Activated Shield Hardeners 1x Large Shield Extender II 1x Medium Peroxide Capacitor Battery Low 2x CPR's 2x Ballistic Controls. I'm around 40 days away from flying one, but I know that I'll have some fun. What are you setups that you're using for these hot new ships? Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated
Idara	Posted - 2004.10.20 00:32:00 - [2] I know that lots of people are excited about an Elite ship type that actually looks to be worth the exorberant amounts of ISK, thus, I want to see what setups people will be using. I'm aiming for a Cerberus in the near future as a mission runner, as the Caracal I use now is awesome, and an elite would be even better. Hi 5x Heavy Launchers, XR-3200's ATM Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster 2x Activated Shield Hardeners 1x Large Shield Extender II 1x Medium Peroxide Capacitor Battery Low 2x CPR's 2x Ballistic Controls. I'm around 40 days away from flying one, but I know that I'll have some fun. What are you setups that you're using for these hot new ships? Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated
Saibin Gias	Posted - 2004.10.20 01:37:00 - [3] i too, am aming for a cerberus and am about 10 days out if i actually choose one ( that is if i dont save my money for a Ferox) your setup would be similar to mine however there are a few slight changes id recomend: high 5x heavy limos ( less expensive and use less cpu than xr-3200, granted less rof) medium medium C5-L 2x race hardners 2x cap charger ( barton or better) low 2x BCU 1wcsII 1 something null Cookware for sale. Non-stick Teflon.
Saibin Gias	Posted - 2004.10.20 01:37:00 - [4] i too, am aming for a cerberus and am about 10 days out if i actually choose one ( that is if i dont save my money for a Ferox) your setup would be similar to mine however there are a few slight changes id recomend: high 5x heavy limos ( less expensive and use less cpu than xr-3200, granted less rof) medium medium C5-L 2x race hardners 2x cap charger ( barton or better) low 2x BCU 1wcsII 1 something null Cookware for sale. Non-stick Teflon.
LeMoose	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:23:00 - [5] it has 6 higslots. 5 launcher hardpoints.
LeMoose	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:23:00 - [6] it has 6 higslots. 5 launcher hardpoints.
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.10.20 02:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 04:33:00 - [9] For a Cerbrus, I would set it up like this Hi: 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II(whenever they come out) Med: Large C5-L, 2x Active Hardeners, Large Cap Battery Lo: 2x Ballistics, 2x PDU II IMO, it should be able to run the Large C5-L nicely Would be nice if someone could actually test this out. Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ****, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 04:33:00 - [10] For a Cerbrus, I would set it up like this Hi: 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II(whenever they come out) Med: Large C5-L, 2x Active Hardeners, Large Cap Battery Lo: 2x Ballistics, 2x PDU II IMO, it should be able to run the Large C5-L nicely Would be nice if someone could actually test this out. Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ****, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. .................
Lurk	Posted - 2004.10.20 07:51:00 - [11] Edited by: Lurk on 20/10/2004 07:54:49 Originally by: Cruz For a Cerbrus, I would set it up like this Hi: 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II(whenever they come out) Med: Large C5-L, 2x Active Hardeners, Large Cap Battery Lo: 2x Ballistics, 2x PDU II IMO, it should be able to run the Large C5-L nicely Would be nice if someone could actually test this out. Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ****, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. Using 3 hards + an energized membrane is kinda useless as stacking penalty will almost completely negate the membrane. A 50% hard + a 20% membrane does only 53.72% resistance compared to the 50% the hard does.
Lurk	Posted - 2004.10.20 07:51:00 - [12] Edited by: Lurk on 20/10/2004 07:54:49 Originally by: Cruz For a Cerbrus, I would set it up like this Hi: 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II(whenever they come out) Med: Large C5-L, 2x Active Hardeners, Large Cap Battery Lo: 2x Ballistics, 2x PDU II IMO, it should be able to run the Large C5-L nicely Would be nice if someone could actually test this out. Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ****, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. Using 3 hards + an energized membrane is kinda useless as stacking penalty will almost completely negate the membrane. A 50% hard + a 20% membrane does only 53.72% resistance compared to the 50% the hard does.
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 08:17:00 - [13] The 20% membrane STILL reduces damage by 20% even with stacking penlaties so its not useless. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 08:17:00 - [14] The 20% membrane STILL reduces damage by 20% even with stacking penlaties so its not useless. .................
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:02:00 - [15] And for gods sake if you are goint to shell out for a heavy assault ship don't cheap out on the modules always use t2 unless you have some of that commander stuff. That is no medium CL-5 or Barton recharger go t2. __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:02:00 - [16] And for gods sake if you are goint to shell out for a heavy assault ship don't cheap out on the modules always use t2 unless you have some of that commander stuff. That is no medium CL-5 or Barton recharger go t2. __________ Capacitor research
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:05:00 - [17] Edited by: Cruz on 20/10/2004 09:08:07 Originally by: Dust Puppy And for gods sake if you are goint to shell out for a heavy assault ship don't cheap out on the modules always use t2 unless you have some of that commander stuff. That is no medium CL-5 or Barton recharger go t2. medium CL-5 recharges the same shield/sec as a medium shield booster II otherwise I agree, dont gimp out on setups for the assaults, use all tech II .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:05:00 - [18] Edited by: Cruz on 20/10/2004 09:08:07 Originally by: Dust Puppy And for gods sake if you are goint to shell out for a heavy assault ship don't cheap out on the modules always use t2 unless you have some of that commander stuff. That is no medium CL-5 or Barton recharger go t2. medium CL-5 recharges the same shield/sec as a medium shield booster II otherwise I agree, dont gimp out on setups for the assaults, use all tech II .................
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:10:00 - [19] Yeah I just noticed But still t2 shield booster is more cap efficient but has higher fitting requirements so I guess it's a choice using C5-L over t2. __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.10.20 09:10:00 - [20] Yeah I just noticed But still t2 shield booster is more cap efficient but has higher fitting requirements so I guess it's a choice using C5-L over t2. __________ Capacitor research
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.10.20 10:01:00 - [21] Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay I know it hasn't got an armor repairer, it's deliberate as I'd never fly it solo anyway (hence no scrambler either) (I'll pray for the repair and scrambler drones in the mean time) No point getting Medium Nos 2, because as well as the extra requirements the ship has an engagement range well under 2km and so having being able to suck an extra 4 cap in the split second it takes to close the distance would be pointless. I believe the fit comes up a few PG short so I'll have to tweak a little bit extra out of it but there should be room, somewhere :-/ The big obstacle is getting cruiser level 5, hull upgrades level 5 and Medium Railgun level 5 out of the way :( Then finally my Raven can be consigned to the scrap heap.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.10.20 10:01:00 - [22] Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/10/2004 10:04:13 Well in 2 months when I have the fricking skills I am looking at a similar Deimos set up to the following. 5 Ion Blasters 2's Medium Nos 2 MWD 1 Webby 800 Nanofibre Plate 2 Adaptive Energised Membrane 2's 2 * PDU 2 Cap Relay I know it hasn't got an armor repairer, it's deliberate as I'd never fly it solo anyway (hence no scrambler either) (I'll pray for the repair and scrambler drones in the mean time) No point getting Medium Nos 2, because as well as the extra requirements the ship has an engagement range well under 2km and so having being able to suck an extra 4 cap in the split second it takes to close the distance would be pointless. I believe the fit comes up a few PG short so I'll have to tweak a little bit extra out of it but there should be room, somewhere :-/ The big obstacle is getting cruiser level 5, hull upgrades level 5 and Medium Railgun level 5 out of the way :( Then finally my Raven can be consigned to the scrap heap.
Idara	Posted - 2004.10.20 23:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. Thing is is that I'd rather be able to take the damage and boost LONGER, than have a few extra shield boost per run. Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated
Idara	Posted - 2004.10.20 23:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Idara Mid Medium CL-5 Emergency Shield Booster ... Low 2x CPR's No. Use Power Diagnostics (or better yet PDU IIs). Don't use CPRs with Shield Boosters, especially multiple CPRs. Thing is is that I'd rather be able to take the damage and boost LONGER, than have a few extra shield boost per run. Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated
Topher	Posted - 2004.10.21 02:15:00 - [25] drooling over these ships, cant wait to get my hands on some
Topher	Posted - 2004.10.21 02:15:00 - [26] drooling over these ships, cant wait to get my hands on some
Shevar	Posted - 2004.10.21 03:24:00 - [27] I would drop the large shield extender to a mwd and the medium cap battery to a large one if you got the pg left. And as said before relays arent all that hot on shield tanking ships anymore (neither are mwds, but doing missions without them sux, even if you got the whole region bookmarked). -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Shevar	Posted - 2004.10.21 03:24:00 - [28] I would drop the large shield extender to a mwd and the medium cap battery to a large one if you got the pg left. And as said before relays arent all that hot on shield tanking ships anymore (neither are mwds, but doing missions without them sux, even if you got the whole region bookmarked). -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.10.21 04:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Cruz Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ***, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. Since the Zealot armor resistances are: em = 60, exp = 80, kin = 62.5, therm = 35 you might be better off going for 4 hardeners than 3 hardeners and a membrane. 2 therm, 1 * kin, 1 * em should give you 80% resistanses across the board. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.10.21 04:33:00 - [30] Originally by: Cruz Personally though, im aiming for a zealot Hi: 4x Heavy Pulse II, 1x Med Nosferatu(named faction one) Med: 10mn AB II, Tracking Comp, Cap Recharger II Lo: Medium Armor Rep II(or a faction), 3x active hardener(faction), 1x energized(faction), 2x Heatsink II Should be able to fit all that Might be a bit slow going only 350m/s or so, but it will do its job of killing ***, I might even switch the heavy pulse IIs for heavy beam IIs if grid allows. Plus, if im spending 100mil+ on this heavy assault cruiser, I might as well equip it with lots of faction loot to make it as good as possible. Since the Zealot armor resistances are: em = 60, exp = 80, kin = 62.5, therm = 35 you might be better off going for 4 hardeners than 3 hardeners and a membrane. 2 therm, 1 * kin, 1 * em should give you 80% resistanses across the board. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'

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