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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 01:43:00 -
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regardless of who scammed who, and who deserved it or not, a 3rd party trader should never use his own morals to judge a sale, and simply act as the middle man he was hired to be.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:36:00 -
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so just to get this straight.
F9 has the option of using a 3rd party, that is trusted, to get information on the true story, yet wont do it even though there is nearly no risk?
this is turning very interesting.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 12:10:00 -
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we need an official statement already :D
f9 - i'm glad your 3rd party program is not you isk maker as it is most prob ruined now.
SFS- always use the most trusted with such expensive things like you are with chribba and the tribal.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Slinktress
What would be the advantage of an "official statement"? What are you looking for? Don't trust SFS? SFS, where's your statement. Are you a hero or a mouse?
I've done and would be happy to again, if you can catch me, do 3rd party transfers. I would be up front though and say I refuse to deal in stolen goods unless it's to return them to the owner.
I'd like to applaud all the players out there faced with similar temptations who resisted and have subsequently made true friends and the game a little more fun.
Cheers o/
Official statement from all sides stating exactly what they are saying was my request.
and I have lead 2 alliance (both null sec) and held the bank wallets for both, and had a hi sec pos setup business where I took 10's of billions without collateral, I do not condone the theft of these ships and in the same situation I would not have taken them, but on the same note f9 did not state in his threads he will not take stolen goods.
my sole and only point all along was he has done a very bad job on the 3rd party thing regardless of what the morality of the issue at hand is.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 06:56:00 -
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yeah your right, the official statement wont make any real difference, i just like seeing them lol :D
and yeah he wanted chribba to hold the state raven in 3rd party as he things f9 will not release it back even if the evidence does show any truths.
and tbh i see his point, if i did hold an ace up my sleeve i would not want to release it for no gain.
and lets be honest, if chribba held the ship, the "proof" should then be outed in public, and if there is any chance its a fake one of the many people who will look at the evidence will soon shout about it being fake.
but then again, i just want to see the evidence which is why i'm taking that stance lol
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zheren Huli
While he might have ruined his 3rd party business for your eyes...
I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
Thats judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people.
This is a sandbox, concord aint the law the community defines it. In this case F90 did what he thought was right and i can only say hats of for this, showing all this "win at all cost" wannabes who jump on the next best train what it means to have spine and that its no weakness to show some morals.
people he did hurt: sfscammer
people whos evelife he made better: the people who will benefit of the isk. which means several corps and/or certain member.
So you flame him for choosing community over himself? Wow all of you must be sad lonely guys, but hey at least theres a bandwagon you can jump on and do all buddy buddy until the next backstab.
F90 showed a blink of how eve used to be and i am thankful for that reminder, if i ever use 3rd party it will be you :).
sandbox - a gaming experience you make for yourself right?
So if you claim this to be a true sandbox, then how can you disagree with people who choose espionage, sabotage and theft as tools to use within there sandbox?
Everyone's sandbox is different, and this is a game, "sfscammer" as you have dubbed him it just having fun in his sandbox, his own way.
Sad lonely guys? So effectively your saying your ideal of the sandbox is the correct one, and those of us who believe F9 has gone over the line of a 3rd party are wrong?
Does that not go against your idea of the sandbox in the first place?!
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I have to say that f90 did what most of the community forgot over the years.
That's judging people by their actions and working as a community against the harm of people."
well actually we have judged F9, a person who used his reputation of a trusted 3rd party (to the community you mention) to get his hands on the spoils of a theft and denied it from that person, and thus by his actions judged by some to be an invalid 3rd party option.
You cant state how things used to be and should be, as sand changes with the wind, just as it does in RL.
Respectfully you contradict your own arguments so much in your post I was going to take it apart a little more (read: all of it). however you are welcome to your opinions but please make more effort to make sure those opinions fit together :P 
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:22:00 -
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Zheren Huli you are impossible to argue with on any matter as any argument against what you belive you just flip over and send it right back!
the person against you is the one who is emo, and you are the one who is not. No matter what your opinion is 100% correct in your head and no counter arguments are even being accepted or considered.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
If I were Chribba, I would want nothing to do with this particular situation unless it was to be the 3rd party for auctioning off the other ships...
...I'm sure he's smart enough to not want to be involved with anything other than x amount of isk for x item (or something of similar nature)...I don't think he got into the business to become a judge and jury on The People's Court.
which is what makes him a GOOD 3rd party, no judging, just neutral 3rd party!
Chribba ftw tbh
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