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xxxak Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.09.08 03:36:00 - [1] Edited by: xxxak on 08/09/2009 03:38:11 *Challenge: Which of the above ships can make the most ISK/hour ratting only? Which ship can make the most ISK/hour including ratting, salvage, and looting?* All of these ships have great kinetic shields and great kinetic dps. Assume full T2 fits with faction if necessary. Deadspace mods allowed if MAJOR improvement possible. Consider ALL factors, including NPC orbit speed/range, time to warp, time to clear worthless cruiser spawns, etc. Assume that other players (blue) are ratting in system, so the ship's ability to check belts fast (time to warp, etc) should improve ISK/hour. I BELIEVE that either the HAM Tengu or the HML Nighthawk will come out on top for pure bounty ratting, whereas the Raven is still king if loot/salvage is included. Also, in your comments, you MAY discuss the ISK loss and/or chance of loss to hostiles (e.g. Raven more likely to get caught, but cheaper to lose than Tengu).
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.09.08 03:45:00 - [2] ITT: xxxak posting yet another stupid thread ratting is about maximizing profit while minimizing losses/risk T3 = $$$ target nighthawk = $$$ target raven = slow target/insurable all would do efficiently, all would be annoying as hell to lose use a T2 cruiser (cerb) or a drake oh and gurista salvage and loot is pretty lol _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.08 08:11:00 - [3] Trust an MH to make a thread about best way to rat.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.08 08:40:00 - [4] another fabulous thread from xxxak. Anyway, HAM cerb is best ratting ship, drake if you are prone to losing ships.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.09.08 08:52:00 - [5] Originally by: XXSketchxx ITT: xxxak posting yet another stupid thread This, seriously dude, haven't you asked all PVE related things imaginable already? Do not your allaince know?
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.09.08 09:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Gim Memore Trust an MH to make a thread about best way to rat. was thinking the exact same thing
xxxak Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.09.08 14:32:00 - [7] Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic.
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.09.08 14:42:00 - [8] Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. didn't you make a thread about killing a titan once? doing like 600 DPS per second per second per second? oh yeah...Here it is my sincerest apologies for even considering flaming the great and glorious xxxak of Mostly Harmless _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.08 14:50:00 - [9] Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. I did not see any whining, just people taking the p*** outa you. Also have you seriously not heard of caldari provisions? It is a Caldari noob corp where u go if u leave a corp... or if you are an alt to post with or use in empire whilst u kill people in 0.0
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.09.08 14:54:00 - [10] WHY RAT WHEN YOU CAN DO COMBAT PATROLS _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.09.08 15:08:00 - [11] Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. Naaaah, you got hurt? Seriously, you keep asking the same questions over and over, and lots of questions one would assume such a large allaince as you are part of got guidelines for. Aslo you fail to use search and read other topics. And lol at your failure to realize that 0.0 has nothing to do with ratting or POSs. And guess what, this is a forum alt, I guess thats a concept not familiar to you. And btw, we know of your allaince ,not you (expect by your posts here), so what you are really bragging of is that your alliance has done stuff, not you. And thats kind of sad.
xxxak Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.09.08 17:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. ... And lol at your failure to realize that 0.0 has nothing to do with ratting or POSs. ... 0.o ..... Ok.
Ralavina	Posted - 2009.09.08 17:28:00 - [13] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=682429 For nearly all your ratting needs. anyway, xxxak, here's how to fit a raven if you want to use one. 6x Tech 2 Siege / Juggernaught (rage for BS if you really want) 1x prototype cloak 1x whatever 1x 100mn MWD I / Quad 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Balistic Deflection II 3x Cap Recharger II 2x Inertia Stabalizer II 2x Ballistic Control System II 2x CPR II 5x caldari medium drones 5x caldari small / ECM drones If you sit there chaining a system or two you can top about 30m isk an hour if you're super lucky with spawns. It'll out DPS any of the other options you've given except maybe a gank T3 ship but then that'll just ever get hostiles swarming towards you anyway and you wont have the peace and quiet to actually make some isk. Jeeesus, an achura in the NC (or was? MH kicked out for failing yet?) asking for ratting advice? I've seen it all. Ralara's banned again so this is my alt :p
m0jo Mordu's Special Operations Wing	Posted - 2009.09.08 17:43:00 - [14] I personally would use the Tengu and here is the reason why. First off you can do some pretty badass dps in a tengu as far as pve is concerned, the Tengu also goes into warp pretty damn fast. And if you are targeting gurrista npcs only then you already have a decent resist to therm/kin, so that leaves you with lots of mids to play around with for defensive measures against gankers. However if you are worried about getting ganked in 0.0 and dont have a second char for scouting well first off you are nubbish and secondly leave the loot its crap anyway.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.09.08 20:19:00 - [15] Edited by: Captain Pompous on 08/09/2009 20:21:17 You are as bad as Joe Phoenix e. An Ibis would be the most cost-efficient to rat in Guristas space. They are free. --- I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :(
MEESOHONY	Posted - 2009.09.08 20:55:00 - [16] Edited by: MEESOHONY on 08/09/2009 20:56:18 What is so wrong with his question? Would it be this flamed if he wasnt from a highly known PVP alliance? Plus guys like captain pompus need to stay out of the flaming and start making decent posts that arent kicking peeps while they down. Its guys like him that think they funny and waste the forums space...Cap Pompous really go find your own prey to flame and stop gangbanging others when they down. The others well you may have your reasons.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.09.09 13:26:00 - [17] Originally by: MEESOHONY Edited by: MEESOHONY on 08/09/2009 20:56:18 What is so wrong with his question? Would it be this flamed if he wasnt from a highly known PVP alliance? An admirer lol Well, my thick-skulled friend, might I direct your attention to this and be so bold as to suggest that the vitriol heaped upon the OP has nothing to do with the status of alliance, and more to do with the idiotic/nonsensical posts that he makes. This here's my favourite: Quote: Plus guys like captain pompus need to stay out of the flaming and start making decent posts that arent kicking peeps while they down I don't know about you, but perhaps guys like MEESOHONY need to start consulting dictionaries before posting? It would make me a little happier, at any rate (there is an additional 'o' in 'Pompous', as in 'my 'oh' face'). Quote: Its guys like him that think they funny and waste the forums space... I don't 'think', I know I am, Bubba. Yes of course I am wasting forum space, because the Internet only has a limited capacity and can only store so many pages of textual information!!!1! Quote: Cap Pompous really go find your own prey to flame and stop gangbanging others when they down. The others well you may have your reasons. I don't know what a gangbanger is, but I don't need to find my own prey to flame (by the way, are you suggesting that I'm somehow cutting in on you, preventing you from flaming the OP? Because that is what it appears to me that you're saying...). Like a moth to the flame, baby... In conclusion, you do seem rather butthurt against me personally so I await another one of your well thought-out and articulated responses! --- I was going to run for CSM but life waylaid me :(
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.09 14:43:00 - [18] Edited by: Gim Memore on 09/09/2009 14:44:50 Originally by: MEESOHONY Edited by: MEESOHONY on 08/09/2009 20:56:18 What is so wrong with his question? Would it be this flamed if he wasnt from a highly known PVP alliance? Plus guys like captain pompus need to stay out of the flaming and start making decent posts that arent kicking peeps while they down. Its guys like him that think they funny and waste the forums space...Cap Pompous really go find your own prey to flame and stop gangbanging others when they down. The others well you may have your reasons. He is not from a well known PvP alliance. It is funny coz he is from a well known carebear alliance which has space and survives because of the NC. But more funny, actually pretty hilarious is this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1047146 This, combined with the alliance he is now, makes this thread really quite amusing.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.09.09 15:21:00 - [19] Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 09/09/2009 15:21:28 Originally by: xxxak Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. ... And lol at your failure to realize that 0.0 has nothing to do with ratting or POSs. ... 0.o ..... Ok. Way to not get the context there, brainiac
xxxak Caldari No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.09.09 16:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Lindsay Logan Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 09/09/2009 15:21:28 Originally by: xxxak Originally by: Lindsay Logan Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. ... And lol at your failure to realize that 0.0 has nothing to do with ratting or POSs. ... 0.o ..... Ok. Way to not get the context there, brainiac Nice try to cover your ass, but I didn't say a single thing about POSs in my post. And, I don't care who you are, 0.0 IS about ratting and POSs, at least for most people in it.
Helfix Caldari Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2009.09.09 16:45:00 - [21] Originally by: xxxak Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. I see a POS in that post...short term memory is a no go! -Helfix
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.09.09 17:35:00 - [22] Originally by: xxxak Nice try to cover your ass, but I didn't say a single thing about POSs in my post. And, I don't care who you are, 0.0 IS about ratting and POSs, at least for most people in it. lol, covering? You where implying you know best beacuse you are in "real" 0.0, and the rest are only "unknowns/randomes" : Quote: Wow. Lotta haters in here. Guess what? I've never heard of you, your corps, or your alliances. Are you even 0.0 players? Seriously, maybe you have a POS in a NPC sov system? Your whining is pathetic. So what are you getting at? If you really are that great and know the best, and know that 0.0 is all about ratting and POSs do oyu need to ask this question in the first place? Besides, 0.0 is a lot more then just ratting in POSs, but I guess a carebear allaince would not know. EVE is after all a sandbox, and different groupes use 0.0 for different things, just look at old CVA and goons.
Gim Memore Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.09.09 18:27:00 - [23] Originally by: xxxak I don't care who you are, 0.0 IS about ratting and POSs, at least for most people in it. No it is not. At least for you and most people in your alliance it is, yes. But that is because you and your alliance are 99% carebears. Try telling people like Cry Havoc, PL, SoT, Tri + so so many others that 0.0 is about ratting. No matter how good or bad u think these alliances or others like them are, they do not exist in 0.0 to rat. Most people in 0.0 alliances also have nothing to do with POS logistics either. In short, if you are a carebear then fair enough, but do not apply your tastes to everyone else.

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