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Lobster Man Metafarmers	Posted - 2009.09.10 10:40:00 - [1] I always find that the systems I explore in frequently start to fill up with garbage bookmarks. Perhaps something simple could be implemented, like 36-hour bookmark; something that only persists for 36 hours then deletes itself. In the places menu, something like a "Temporary Bookmark" bookmark button, or even checkbox could allow for creating a temporary/exploration or permanent bookmark. I don't know how easy or hard this would be to implement, but I dont see the slowdown I get when I open my places folder becoming any shorter (and it wouldn't surprise me if it's not helping server performance either). Suggestions? Support?
Lobster Man Metafarmers	Posted - 2009.09.10 10:45:00 - [2] +1 for posterity
Cheekything Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.09.10 11:37:00 - [3] how about having a scan bookmarks folder which is laid out in days but support none the less
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.09.10 16:06:00 - [4] By the time you've set a BM temporary, you've already done as many clicks as it'd take to just delete it. Adding a "Time created" column I'd be for, and I think would solve the problem nicely, but this proposal doesn't seem like it would solve much.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.09.10 16:10:00 - [5] It's just 1 bloody click to remove a Bookmark. Sorry but I don't see this as an "earth shattering" need. :/ ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Mr Stark	Posted - 2009.09.10 16:11:00 - [6] Edited by: Mr Stark on 10/09/2009 16:12:21 Edited by: Mr Stark on 10/09/2009 16:11:42 Originally by: Drake Draconis It's just 1 bloody click to remove a Bookmark. Sorry but I don't see this as an "earth shattering" need. :/ And there he goes again... Anyone got any pictures of japanese schoolgirls to keep Drake quiet for 30 seconds... By the way, I agree to the thread.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2009.09.10 16:25:00 - [7] /not supported Make separate bookmark folders. I have separate folders for Safe Spots, Commonly Use Stations, My Anchored GSC's. Have a bookmark folder for exploration sites and select all/delete. Or make a bookmark folder each day you start and delete the old ones when you deem necessary.
Lobster Man Metafarmers	Posted - 2009.09.11 04:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Dretzle Omega /not supported Make separate bookmark folders. I have separate folders for Safe Spots, Commonly Use Stations, My Anchored GSC's. Have a bookmark folder for exploration sites and select all/delete. Or make a bookmark folder each day you start and delete the old ones when you deem necessary. I don't believe that folders are preserved across multiple installations of eve, yet the bookmarks themselves do reside on the server. I used to make folders for them and stuff, but then one day my hard drive crashed. When I reinstalled Eve, I found that I still had all several hundred BMs, but they were all lumped into one big folder - NOT organized into the many folders I had taken the time to put them into. Since then I haven't bothered to try again, and my places window just gets slower and slower Or maybe this was just an isolated incident...?
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2009.09.11 14:24:00 - [9] Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 11/09/2009 14:24:48 Anyone that actually not support, is doing exploration or live in wormholes ?. IF THEY WERE TEMP BOOKMARKS NO ONE WOULD MAKE YOU USE THEM. Obviously supported.
Dretzle Omega Caldari Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2009.09.11 17:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Lobster Man [I don't believe that folders are preserved across multiple installations of eve, yet the bookmarks themselves do reside on the server. I used to make folders for them and stuff, but then one day my hard drive crashed. When I reinstalled Eve, I found that I still had all several hundred BMs, but they were all lumped into one big folder - NOT organized into the many folders I had taken the time to put them into. Since then I haven't bothered to try again, and my places window just gets slower and slower Or maybe this was just an isolated incident...? Ah, hadn't seen that before. That's not good. Quote: IF THEY WERE TEMP BOOKMARKS NO ONE WOULD MAKE YOU USE THEM. I don't use wormholes (yet) either, but I would have supported those whole-heartedly (if I had been around). I just think there's a better solution than "temp bookmarks" for his problem. I just didn't think they would be useful based on the problem Lobster Man was trying to solve in his main post. Folders work better. As he pointed out, folders don't work if your hard drive crashes, apparently, but there's got to be a better solution than temp bookmarks for that. Just MHO.

Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.09.11 17:44:00 - [11] Lobster, yes, bookmarks are stored on your hard drive. Yes, it's ******ed. Might I suggest deleting most of those hundreds? JPC2, I do exploration and wormholes. I'm not hardcore about it, but I do fully understand why you would want this. I just don't think it's the right solution to the problem - like I said, "time created" would be much better IMO.
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.09.11 18:59:00 - [12] Supporting it because options are good. Options help those who would use them, and they don't harm those who would not. I personally wouldn't use this option, I turn my old exploration bookmarks into "safes". ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2009.09.11 19:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto By the time you've set a BM temporary, you've already done as many clicks as it'd take to just delete it. Adding a "Time created" column I'd be for, and I think would solve the problem nicely, but this proposal doesn't seem like it would solve much. You are vey wrong 1. Even if setting temp bookmark is as much cliking as the deleting it , its so much better to set up proper bookmark at the beggining and dont bother with it anymore. 2. Time created table would solve nothing. Some bookmark are usless just after finishing sites some are usless after several hours ( wormholes , or unfinished plexes you want to do,finish later ) You would have to spend time thinkin : is it done already ? it this wh gone etc. It is as much pain as it is now. BTW Some bookmarks are static f.e insta undock = those are good for foldering not the temporarly ones.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.09.11 22:30:00 - [14] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto By the time you've set a BM temporary, you've already done as many clicks as it'd take to just delete it. Adding a "Time created" column I'd be for, and I think would solve the problem nicely, but this proposal doesn't seem like it would solve much. You are vey wrong 1. Even if setting temp bookmark is as much cliking as the deleting it , its so much better to set up proper bookmark at the beggining and dont bother with it anymore. 2. Time created table would solve nothing. Some bookmark are usless just after finishing sites some are usless after several hours ( wormholes , or unfinished plexes you want to do,finish later ) You would have to spend time thinkin : is it done already ? it this wh gone etc. It is as much pain as it is now. BTW Some bookmarks are static f.e insta undock = those are good for foldering not the temporarly ones. I am aware of all of those things. This is why bookmarks have names - bookmark sites with "1", "2", etc. and clear them out in order, and use descriptive names for anything longer-term. And time created is just fine - yeah, it doesn't differentiate the stuff you were doing an hour ago, but it means stuff from three days ago you can clear out easily. That gets rid of most of the bloat, and given that the proposal was for a 36-hour timer on temporaries, that's all this proposal would let you do anyways. Nothing automated is going to read your mind and clear out the BMs you don't care about, so you're either going to have to clear them out by hand or use some sort of simplified rule. And if you're using a rule, time created is the same thing without all the "My bookmarks disappeared!" whining from idiots clogging the petition queues.
alt 12345	Posted - 2009.12.09 05:21:00 - [15] Good stuff.


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