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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 10/09/2009 17:56:51
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/9/9/
thats 20 Flights plus one train that had people with the flue that left, not counting people who are stuck in Seatle because they came down with the flu and cant get onto aircraft.
hope you guys have enough of the BIG bottles of purrel there! shesh.
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Kora Zilesti
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:04:00 -
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Oh, you mean that mostly harmless flu that the media hyped to be the next smallpox? I've heard of that. It's supposed to be like, the end of mankind - better stock up some water and medical supplies, mate.
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Zeromentor
Private Renegade Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kora Zilesti Oh, you mean that mostly harmless flu that the media hyped to be the next smallpox? I've heard of that. It's supposed to be like, the end of mankind - better stock up some water and medical supplies, mate.
Yep. Spreads slower than the seasonal flu, kills less people per month in the world compared to the seasonal flu in the US, alone.
Lacks the mutative gene commonly found in most influenza virus strains... Pretty weak little bug. Also, I think the US Government over hyped it to get the healthcare bill past, and because of that the WHO freaked out... Oops. ______________________________________
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:12:00 -
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You always get diseases when you have a lot of people gathering. A disease like the swine flu is not even close to being the worst and you will likely get it anyway from somewhere else.
If you are truly that worried about getting diseases, you should avoid all gatherings, never touch anything in public use, always keep your hands clean and don't touch your face with them. Even then you will get sick from something sooner or later.
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Dirk Mortice
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:13:00 -
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OMG DON'T GO TO FANFEST, YOU'LL ALL DIE FROM SWINE FLUE!1!!one!!1
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:13:00 -
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All true, but the real interesting thing is why the world governments are paying pharmaceutical companies billions for the vaccine against a almost harmless virus.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:13:00 -
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Keep in mind they only mention one 'doctor confirmed' case. The rest could be people who confirmed they have flu symptoms on the forum and weren't tested at all.
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kora Zilesti Oh, you mean that mostly harmless flu that the media hyped to be the next smallpox? I've heard of that. It's supposed to be like, the end of mankind - better stock up some water and medical supplies, mate.
My point being that it would suck to go to fanfair and get stuck in Icleand for a week in november untill your able to travel.
Granted in my case (I have Lupis) Im a bit paranoid about diseases as it is. Its partly why I stoped going to Dragon con because I swear EVERY time I went I caught "Con Crud"
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Kronossan
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:31:00 -
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This summer I've had Q-fever twice and swine flue too (just unlucky hehe), all 3 the times I felt better then last time I had a regular cold. Antibiotics <3 _________________
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Catherine Frasier
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zeromentor Lacks the mutative gene commonly found in most influenza virus strains...
No offence but that's just verbiage. There is no "mutative gene" in any strain of the virus. Influenza is notorious for its tendency to mutate. This H1N1 strain has not, so far, produced any widespread, more virulent, mutation. Coulda happened, could still happen, so far, hasn't. That's all.
Originally by: Zeromentor Also, I think the US Government over hyped it to get the healthcare bill past, and because of that the WHO freaked out... Oops.
Actually, if you look at the effects so far due to this "weak little bug" you'll find that adding a second, new-strain pandemic to the normal "seasonal" flu cycle has pretty serious impact on our acute care facilities. Hospitals get slammed, which is a problem in itself since in many place hospitals are (at best) barely keeping up with normal demand. This is why billions are being spent to ameliorate the effects of the H1N pandemic. No, people are not dying by the tens or hundreds of thousands that we might expect to see if this was, say, H5N1, but the pandemic itself and the strain it puts on our already overtaxed system is A Bad Thing(tm). (And I also imagine that the thousands of people H1N1 has killed found it a fairly serious little bug.)
If the media outlets you use were telling you this was some kind of Captain Trips then the problem lies in your choice of media outlet. The CDC, WHO, etc. have all been pretty much right on the money from the start of this thing and continue to provide good solid information as we enter the second wave of the pandemic. This is a serious problem, just not in the way some people seem to expect.
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Jarna
Amarr Exhumer Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zeromentor
Originally by: Kora Zilesti Oh, you mean that mostly harmless flu that the media hyped to be the next smallpox? I've heard of that. It's supposed to be like, the end of mankind - better stock up some water and medical supplies, mate.
Yep. Spreads slower than the seasonal flu, kills less people per month in the world compared to the seasonal flu in the US, alone.
Lacks the mutative gene commonly found in most influenza virus strains... Pretty weak little bug. Also, I think the US Government over hyped it to get the healthcare bill past, and because of that the WHO freaked out... Oops.
It's technically called H1N1. It is "dangerous" because there IS no vaccine for it, however it is also reported that only people 25 and under are the most vulnerable to it. It's assumed that this virus is making its rounds again because there is finally enough people without an immunity to it to make it visible. Reportedly, older people don't have as much an issue with. The normal flu kills 34,000 people a year, and this one has the same potential just like any other flu.
Originally by: Zeromentor
Originally by: Kora Zilesti Oh, you mean that mostly harmless flu that the media hyped to be the next smallpox? I've heard of that. It's supposed to be like, the end of mankind - better stock up some water and medical supplies, mate.
Yep. Spreads slower than the seasonal flu, kills less people per month in the world compared to the seasonal flu in the US, alone.
Lacks the mutative gene commonly found in most influenza virus strains... Pretty weak little bug. Also, I think the US Government over hyped it to get the healthcare bill past, and because of that the WHO freaked out... Oops.
"Slower" because of the aforementioned reason; it mostly affects 25 and younger. Also, I don't what you are listening to, but this has no direct correlation to the healthcare bill, nor has anyone used it in such a way. Way to spread lies.
http://www.topicspin.com/does-h1n1-flu-swine-flu-affect-healthy-people/
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:44:00 -
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I'll happily take your ticket+flight! Heck knows I can't afford it myself.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:47:00 -
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Here's an idea: Get deliberately exposed to the flu before Fanfest, let it abate, then enjoy your invulnerability.
Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is medically sound, and you will not hold The Stoekai Corporation or Alexeph Stoekai liable for any suffering caused as a result of disease, bodily harm, acts of God, death of yourself or that of a loved one. -----
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.09.10 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/09/2009 18:53:43
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Here's an idea: Get deliberately exposed to the flu before Fanfest, let it abate, then enjoy your invulnerability.
Or, get sick, and gank everybody. :)
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jarna It's technically called H1N1. It is "dangerous" because there IS no vaccine for it, however it is also reported that only people 25 and under are the most vulnerable to it. It's assumed that this virus is making its rounds again because there is finally enough people without an immunity to it to make it visible. Reportedly, older people don't have as much an issue with. The normal flu kills 34,000 people a year, and this one has the same potential just like any other flu.
The normal flu that kills people all the time is actually a few hundred or even thousand different flu's, and the swine flu could be included as one of those. But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus, but that doesn't mean it's dangerous. It still has a 99.98% survival rate.
Originally by: Jarna "Slower" because of the aforementioned reason; it mostly affects 25 and younger.
Be wary of what you hear from the WHO. They are clearly trying to scare everyone, and doing nothing to calm people, like you'd expect. They also include 'probable' cases in final infection rates to make the numbers larger, which is bad science no matter how you look at it. And i find it unusual they seem to know everything that's going to happen before it does. There's many other virus possibilities which pose the same or more of a threat. If they truly can predict which strains are going to mutate into more deadly variants and which ones aren't they deserve nobel prizes, because that's considered impossible.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 10/09/2009 18:53:43
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Here's an idea: Get deliberately exposed to the flu before Fanfest, let it abate, then enjoy your invulnerability.
Or, get sick, and gank everybody. :)
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Jarna
Amarr Exhumer Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Jarna It's technically called H1N1. It is "dangerous" because there IS no vaccine for it, however it is also reported that only people 25 and under are the most vulnerable to it. It's assumed that this virus is making its rounds again because there is finally enough people without an immunity to it to make it visible. Reportedly, older people don't have as much an issue with. The normal flu kills 34,000 people a year, and this one has the same potential just like any other flu.
The normal flu that kills people all the time is actually a few hundred or even thousand different flu's, and the swine flu could be included as one of those. But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus, but that doesn't mean it's dangerous. It still has a 99.98% survival rate.
Originally by: Jarna "Slower" because of the aforementioned reason; it mostly affects 25 and younger.
Be wary of what you hear from the WHO. They are clearly trying to scare everyone, and doing nothing to calm people, like you'd expect. They also include 'probable' cases in final infection rates to make the numbers larger, which is bad science no matter how you look at it. And i find it unusual they seem to know everything that's going to happen before it does. There's many other virus possibilities which pose the same or more of a threat. If they truly can predict which strains are going to mutate into more deadly variants and which ones aren't they deserve nobel prizes, because that's considered impossible.
just FYI, I didn't hear that form WHO, but an independent doctor who has no affiliation or gains nothing by agreeing wiht/saying something opposite of the WHO.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas Edited by: Steve Thomas on 10/09/2009 17:56:51
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/9/9/
thats 20 Flights plus one train that had people with the flue that left, not counting people who are stuck in Seatle because they came down with the flu and cant get onto aircraft.
hope you guys have enough of the BIG bottles of purrel there! shesh.
You mean the H1N1 flu that has killed around a 1000 people world wide? In comparison the plain old regular flu kills about 32,000 a year in the USA alone.
*yawn*
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Vinsurith Morteth
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:03:00 -
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You think it's bad how the White House hyped swine flu...just wait until the U.N. gets a hold of this.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue You always get diseases when you have a lot of people gathering. A disease like the swine flu is not even close to being the worst and you will likely get it anyway from somewhere else.
If you are truly that worried about getting diseases, you should avoid all gatherings, never touch anything in public use, always keep your hands clean and don't touch your face with them. Even then you will get sick from something sooner or later.
And if you have school age children, forget it. You WILL get sick - usually two days after they bring something home. --Vel
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Zeromentor
Private Renegade Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:15:00 -
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I'll just say from what I've been seeing.
The H1N1 virus is weaker than the normal seasonal flu many die from. From what the CDC has found out, unlike the normal flu bugs we have, you need to be in close to the infected persons to become infected, unlike other flu bugs which can carry for quite a distance.
The majority of people that have died also had other health problems... Oh god, that means if I had AIDs or a Heart Disease or somekind of lung problem I'm doomed!! Oh wait, a normal flu might kill me just as fast.
Also, unlike the other more common flus, this one has a problem infesting the intestines. Means there is no "Stomach Swine Flu"... Yet.
And last, unlike other common flu strains that mutate quickly, some from person to person (they can get infected from each other and have 2 nearly completely different bugs) this Swine Flu (aka, H1N1) doesn't seem to mutate much, if at all.
I'm not lying about the part where some US Congressmen tried to use the Swine Flu scare as a way to pass the healthcare bill. Don't belive me? Fine, but the internet is right at your keyboard ______________________________________
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kronossan This summer I've had Q-fever twice and swine flue too (just unlucky hehe), all 3 the times I felt better then last time I had a regular cold. Antibiotics <3
You're an idiot.
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down.
Thankfully I've got Interceptors trained to V. S
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus
I revoke your title and your corp affiliation. You sir are completely wrong.
The common cold AKA the rhinopharyngitis virus is completely and utterly different than the influenza virus.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Professor Tarantula But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus
I revoke your title and your corp affiliation. You sir are completely wrong.
The common cold AKA the rhinopharyngitis virus is completely and utterly different than the influenza virus.
You just blew my mind. I was absolutely certain the flu was synonymous with the common cold, when in fact it's just the seasonal cold, apparently. I stand corrected.
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Catherine Frasier
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula The normal flu that kills people all the time is actually a few hundred or even thousand different flu's, and the swine flu could be included as one of those. But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus, but that doesn't mean it's dangerous. It still has a 99.98% survival rate.
The CF rate for influenza isn't the issue. Doubling (actually slightly more than doubling) the costs of a "normal" seasonal flu cycle is the issue. Those costs include much more than merely a tally of fatalities. The seasonal flu costs about $10 BILLION in direct medical costs each year in the US (and eight times that much in total economic burden, work missed and such). That's not trivial even if it "only" kills 30,000+ people each year. The H1N1 pandemic costs are in addition to those.
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Be wary of what you hear from the WHO. They are clearly trying to scare everyone, and doing nothing to calm people, like you'd expect. They also include 'probable' cases in final infection rates to make the numbers larger, which is bad science no matter how you look at it. And i find it unusual they seem to know everything that's going to happen before it does. There's many other virus possibilities which pose the same or more of a threat. If they truly can predict which strains are going to mutate into more deadly variants and which ones aren't they deserve nobel prizes, because that's considered impossible.
Exactly where did the WHO say or do anything like what you're claiming?
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:38:00 -
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Here is the catch 22 in whole flu thing.
IF you spend your life in a bottle you will never get sick, BUT It will make your more susceptible to sickness when you leave the bottle.
In other words you have a immune system and its job is to keep you healthy and the less you work it more likely it will fail when you need it.
It really is a no win situation, and there really is such a thing as too clean can do more harm then good.
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Black Leather
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:42:00 -
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Lets see...
For every $1.00 invested in 'fear fact' advertising, otc drug sale go up about 10% and prescription flu drug sales go up a whopping 15%.
Someone is coming out on the shiny side here and it ain't the consumers.
Warning: imaginary figures, but you should get the idea 
BL
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Vhan
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:48:00 -
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We always have flu going around. More folks die to car wrecks, in the US.
Panic over all the drunkards that'll be in Iceland for the festival (pub crawl!). :)
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NATASHA YAR
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:57:00 -
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Maddox about the swine flu http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=swine_flu
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Professor Tarantula But yes, there is no vaccine for the common cold aka: influenza virus
I revoke your title and your corp affiliation. You sir are completely wrong.
The common cold AKA the rhinopharyngitis virus is completely and utterly different than the influenza virus.
You just blew my mind. I was absolutely certain the flu was synonymous with the common cold, when in fact it's just the seasonal cold, apparently. I stand corrected.
The common cold is at worst an annoyance. The influenza kills.
They're both upper repiratory infections so the symptoms are similar. The main difference is the flu causes fever.
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