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Nekmet Awai
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Posted - 2009.09.10 23:52:00 -
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so i have been following the market a bit and can see that these items are drastically falling.
is there any reason that i dont know of for this or is it something else?
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Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Nekmet Awai
so i have been following the market a bit and can see that these items are drastically falling.
I don't follow all Pith and Gist items. Are the prices on all of them falling, or only on some module types?
Originally by: Nekmet Awai
is there any reason that i dont know of for this or is it something else?
Yes.
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Nekmet Awai
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: Nekmet Awai
so i have been following the market a bit and can see that these items are drastically falling.
I don't follow all Pith and Gist items. Are the prices on all of them falling, or only on some module types?
Originally by: Nekmet Awai
is there any reason that i dont know of for this or is it something else?
Yes.
from what i can see it is the shield boost and amplifie, that are dropping.
is there a new thing in one of the next patches making these a lot cheaper?
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McFly
C0LDFIRE
RUDE Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 00:45:00 -
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Probably just a larger amount of them in contracts at the moment and the holding parties are price warring a bit. To my knowledge there aren't any changes so far apparent that would effect the Gist/Pith Shield mods.
Or a bunch of people just got tired of running missions in uber fit CNRs/Golems, and cashed in their mods, inflating the market volume.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.09.11 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nekmet Awai
so i have been following the market a bit and can see that these items are drastically falling.
is there any reason that i dont know of for this or is it something else?
People realizing that ultra-expensive shield mods won't actually help them mission (you can tank the dps or you can't, its binary) more than cheaper deadspace mods has resulted in a convergence in deadspace tanking mod price (the cheaper ones got more expensive, the more expensive ones got cheaper).
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mahke
People realizing that ultra-expensive shield mods won't actually help them mission (you can tank the dps or you can't, its binary) more than cheaper deadspace mods has resulted in a convergence in deadspace tanking mod price (the cheaper ones got more expensive, the more expensive ones got cheaper).
The fewer slots you need to dedicate to your tank, the more slots you can use for damage mods, so it's not as binary as you're implying. More DPS = faster missioning, and 5% more damage can mean breaking a tank 25% or 50% quicker, so it can make a large difference to total efficiency. |
Stardust CEO
Stardust Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.09.11 04:07:00 -
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Back about a year ago, pithi b-type small shield boosters were 15m each. Now they're 10x that. pithi a-types were 280m, now they're 550m. As much as they might fall, it won't be enough.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.09.11 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: Mahke
People realizing that ultra-expensive shield mods won't actually help them mission (you can tank the dps or you can't, its binary) more than cheaper deadspace mods has resulted in a convergence in deadspace tanking mod price (the cheaper ones got more expensive, the more expensive ones got cheaper).
The fewer slots you need to dedicate to your tank, the more slots you can use for damage mods, so it's not as binary as you're implying. More DPS = faster missioning, and 5% more damage can mean breaking a tank 25% or 50% quicker, so it can make a large difference to total efficiency.
The first 3 damage mods you fit, the higher base from the earlier ones balances out diminishing returns so they each give in the low 20%'s extra dps added onto base.
The fourth this does NOT hold for: diminishing returns make added dps fall off a cliff; this one is worth much less.
The fifth, well, there is never any point to a fifth damage mod.
Cheapo and formerly cheapo deadspace mods allow an easy permatank sufficent for level 4's WITH 3 damage mods fit.
Go to a cap booster (or the right fits on the right ships) and then you could use 4 (but then you also don't even need cheap deadspace, just go t2 in that case).
Tank IS as binary as I'm implying: you can tank the mission without a warpout, or not. Okay, shelling out a billion more isk could maybe let me fit a fourth damage mod and still permatank the dps from level 4's without a cap booster: thats still a terrible investment.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.11 04:29:00 -
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Consider how many GTCs you can buy for the price of a gist X-type XLSB. Then consider the return you'll get on that investment during that time adding a second Raven to your missioning vs. a slight bump in DPS due to possibly freeing up a low slot.
And if you're into that sort of thing you could sell the ~20M SP mission runner (with no doubt excellent standings) once the GTCs run out for far more than the price of the booster + price of GTC. Plus there's no risk someone would gank you and steal the module before it "pays" for itself.
People who buy uberpimp PvE gear don't do it for any rational reason. Just like T2 BPO buyers don't bother to evaluate cost vs benefit. Therefore, price movements for such luxury items can be driven by the phase of the moon as much as expected nerfs and buffs.
And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mahke
The first 3 damage mods you fit, the higher base from the earlier ones balances out diminishing returns so they each give in the low 20%'s extra dps added onto base.
The fourth this does NOT hold for: diminishing returns make added dps fall off a cliff; this one is worth much less.
The fifth, well, there is never any point to a fifth damage mod.
4th navy BCU still adds approx 5..6 % to your damage, as it gives both RoF and damage bonus. This is quite worth it, altho main benefit is in some very close to pop cases where that will save you extra volley.
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.09.11 22:31:00 -
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a bunch of isk farmers were banned. most isk farmers flew CNRS. no clue on how much this affected the pith/gist market though. I do know they were heavily using the pithi b-type small booster though, as it let them run l4s around 2 months into game.
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