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Taladorn
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:29:00 -
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The Merchant Marines Official Press Release
The Merchant Marines (THEMM) hereby withdraws its membership in NORAD and will seek to vacate NORAD space forthwith. THEMM will cease mining and NPC hunting operations immediately in NORAD space but vacating the area will take some time. Much as we wish it were otherwise moving all of our corporate assets after months of being settled in is a large undertaking. THEMM forces hope to do this peacefully and will not initiate aggression but will of course defend themselves should the need arise.
Be it known that THEMM does not make this decision lightly. THEMM values its word as golden and takes its committments very seriously as a result. Indeed, we view this more as NORAD having left us than the other way around. Perhaps not experessed in their words but certainly by their actions (or in-actions as the case may be). As we hope to maintain our good name and have proftable and fun dealings with other corporations/alliances in the future we offer this brief overview of events so you may decide.
1) Nemesis, a NORAD ally (hence our ally at the time), launches a surprise attack on THEMM forces...basically all miners. It was one of the most overtly treacherous acts EVE has ever seen on this scale (certainly that we've been witness to).
2) A ceasefire is arranged while the NORAD council tries to sort things out and find a diplomatic solution. Nemesis refused to compromise or own up to their cowardly attack. Nemesis was kicked from NORAD as a result.
3) Nemesis refused negotiation and compromise and war resumed. The attacks are in NORAD space and should invoke statements in the Alliance Charter to have all NORAD members respond. With the exception of R. Inc. (a provisional member at the time who has since left and joined CA) and Iron Brigade no NORAD corp lifted a finger to help THEMM. In some cases other members of NORAD were mining merrily along while Nemesis and THEMM were fighting practically next to them. We have reports of some NORAD corps explicitly telling their members to not fight which is in direct contravention of Alliance rules. A few Norad pilots/ceos did respond positively and those have our appreciation for there words of support.
4) Fountain Alliance honors its pledges of support and sends a large fleet to help. Nemesis sees they are now hopelessly outgunned and sue for a cease fire to leave NORAD space which is granted (and Nemesis does leave without further incident).
5) Nemesis returns a week later and after a post on the Norad foums asking if they were still KOS with FA and being told no they launch a sneak attack on FA.
6) Rather than have to fight NORAD seeks to give Cloud Ring (basically half of NORAD) to Nemesis. That after perhaps a half-week of fighting has passed of which they never partook in anyway.
It should be noted that THEMM is not a PvP centric corp. Never has been and make no claim to be. Nonetheless we seek to stand our ground in defense of our allies and friends when needed.
It is for the above sequence of events that THEMM feels it has been abandoned by its purported allies. NORAD's willingness to make a deal with a proven treacherous corp is more than THEMM can abide and was the final straw on this camel's already serioulsy strained back. THEMM values its principles over monetary loss or difficulties. It would seem most NORAD corps are the reverse. How any alliance could abide a corp like Nemesis in their midst after they have shown themselves to do be deceitful and willing to attack "friends" without warning is beyond our ability to fathom.
It should be noted that some pilots from norad corps actually did there duty and upheld the policies the alliance was founded on and those people have our respect.
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Taladorn
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:29:00 -
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The Merchant Marines Official Press Release
The Merchant Marines (THEMM) hereby withdraws its membership in NORAD and will seek to vacate NORAD space forthwith. THEMM will cease mining and NPC hunting operations immediately in NORAD space but vacating the area will take some time. Much as we wish it were otherwise moving all of our corporate assets after months of being settled in is a large undertaking. THEMM forces hope to do this peacefully and will not initiate aggression but will of course defend themselves should the need arise.
Be it known that THEMM does not make this decision lightly. THEMM values its word as golden and takes its committments very seriously as a result. Indeed, we view this more as NORAD having left us than the other way around. Perhaps not experessed in their words but certainly by their actions (or in-actions as the case may be). As we hope to maintain our good name and have proftable and fun dealings with other corporations/alliances in the future we offer this brief overview of events so you may decide.
1) Nemesis, a NORAD ally (hence our ally at the time), launches a surprise attack on THEMM forces...basically all miners. It was one of the most overtly treacherous acts EVE has ever seen on this scale (certainly that we've been witness to).
2) A ceasefire is arranged while the NORAD council tries to sort things out and find a diplomatic solution. Nemesis refused to compromise or own up to their cowardly attack. Nemesis was kicked from NORAD as a result.
3) Nemesis refused negotiation and compromise and war resumed. The attacks are in NORAD space and should invoke statements in the Alliance Charter to have all NORAD members respond. With the exception of R. Inc. (a provisional member at the time who has since left and joined CA) and Iron Brigade no NORAD corp lifted a finger to help THEMM. In some cases other members of NORAD were mining merrily along while Nemesis and THEMM were fighting practically next to them. We have reports of some NORAD corps explicitly telling their members to not fight which is in direct contravention of Alliance rules. A few Norad pilots/ceos did respond positively and those have our appreciation for there words of support.
4) Fountain Alliance honors its pledges of support and sends a large fleet to help. Nemesis sees they are now hopelessly outgunned and sue for a cease fire to leave NORAD space which is granted (and Nemesis does leave without further incident).
5) Nemesis returns a week later and after a post on the Norad foums asking if they were still KOS with FA and being told no they launch a sneak attack on FA.
6) Rather than have to fight NORAD seeks to give Cloud Ring (basically half of NORAD) to Nemesis. That after perhaps a half-week of fighting has passed of which they never partook in anyway.
It should be noted that THEMM is not a PvP centric corp. Never has been and make no claim to be. Nonetheless we seek to stand our ground in defense of our allies and friends when needed.
It is for the above sequence of events that THEMM feels it has been abandoned by its purported allies. NORAD's willingness to make a deal with a proven treacherous corp is more than THEMM can abide and was the final straw on this camel's already serioulsy strained back. THEMM values its principles over monetary loss or difficulties. It would seem most NORAD corps are the reverse. How any alliance could abide a corp like Nemesis in their midst after they have shown themselves to do be deceitful and willing to attack "friends" without warning is beyond our ability to fathom.
It should be noted that some pilots from norad corps actually did there duty and upheld the policies the alliance was founded on and those people have our respect.
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:30:00 -
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It is with a heavy heart that I tender my resignation as a NORAD Fleet Commander.
In the past six months (has it been that long?) I have flown with the majority of NORAD. I fought in the Northern War, defended the Outer Ring and Cloud Ring regions, and lost an unknown number of ships. I defended our ideals and our little democracy against all enemies, internal and external. However, it is as a member of the Merchant Marines that I am leaving.
I will step down peacefully from my position. I am a simple pilot now, one among many.
Cabadrin
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:30:00 -
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It is with a heavy heart that I tender my resignation as a NORAD Fleet Commander.
In the past six months (has it been that long?) I have flown with the majority of NORAD. I fought in the Northern War, defended the Outer Ring and Cloud Ring regions, and lost an unknown number of ships. I defended our ideals and our little democracy against all enemies, internal and external. However, it is as a member of the Merchant Marines that I am leaving.
I will step down peacefully from my position. I am a simple pilot now, one among many.
Cabadrin
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Therax
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:35:00 -
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Good luck with your future ventures, try not to let other corps ruin your fun too much, or make your fun ruining other corps 
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Therax
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:35:00 -
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Good luck with your future ventures, try not to let other corps ruin your fun too much, or make your fun ruining other corps
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ponieus
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: ponieus on 20/10/2004 22:43:27
Well good luck in what ever and where ever you guys end up. Sucks to see you guys go since we finally started to get something going.
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ponieus
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: ponieus on 20/10/2004 22:43:27
Well good luck in what ever and where ever you guys end up. Sucks to see you guys go since we finally started to get something going.
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Nepenthe
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:42:00 -
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Good luck in the future!
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Nepenthe
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:42:00 -
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Good luck in the future!
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:48:00 -
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Good luck to The Merchant Marines, wherever your fortunes carry you.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:48:00 -
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Good luck to The Merchant Marines, wherever your fortunes carry you.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Adarian Silverthorn
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:49:00 -
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Good luck with your future plans. Seems to me like THEMM was right to leave NORAD.
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Adarian Silverthorn
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:49:00 -
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Good luck with your future plans. Seems to me like THEMM was right to leave NORAD.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:50:00 -
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 Enslaver and Prop will never let me live this down.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:50:00 -
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Enslaver and Prop will never let me live this down.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:50:00 -
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cya in space guys
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:50:00 -
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cya in space guys
Wanna fly with me?
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:51:00 -
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thread hijack!!!
gl in the future!
www.dark-cartel.com |
Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:51:00 -
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thread hijack!!!
gl in the future!
www.dark-cartel.com |
Vvari
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:51:00 -
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to the friends i have in norad, i say farewell, i wish u best.
i also wish all good norad members good fun and prosper.
all my enemies in norad, well again the few bad ones reuined it for the majority.
i wish those people alot of clones.
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Vvari
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:51:00 -
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to the friends i have in norad, i say farewell, i wish u best.
i also wish all good norad members good fun and prosper.
all my enemies in norad, well again the few bad ones reuined it for the majority.
i wish those people alot of clones.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:53:00 -
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Taladorn... Get THEMM in Deklein.
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Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:53:00 -
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Taladorn... Get THEMM in Deklein.
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Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:57:00 -
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On a personal note, I will really miss a lot of people in NORAD  I have had an amazing time with you and I would not have traded it for anything, not even all the battleships I have lost.
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.10.20 22:57:00 -
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On a personal note, I will really miss a lot of people in NORAD I have had an amazing time with you and I would not have traded it for anything, not even all the battleships I have lost.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.10.20 23:00:00 -
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Sorry to see you guys going, but after such a betrayal who could blame you, I think its the right thing to do, go find an alliance which actually means something and is worth defending.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.10.20 23:00:00 -
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Sorry to see you guys going, but after such a betrayal who could blame you, I think its the right thing to do, go find an alliance which actually means something and is worth defending.
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Krea Tionz
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Posted - 2004.10.20 23:19:00 -
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 Spanks Taladorn 
Well best wishes for THEMM. Was a good corp, just not enough closeness for me.
Femintaki, Karnov, Taladorn, and several members Glad to see us stay friends, regardless of my desiscion.
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Krea Tionz
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Posted - 2004.10.20 23:19:00 -
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Spanks Taladorn
Well best wishes for THEMM. Was a good corp, just not enough closeness for me.
Femintaki, Karnov, Taladorn, and several members Glad to see us stay friends, regardless of my desiscion.
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