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Ahistaja Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.12 01:18:00 - [31] thanks mittens :3
Phreeze Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.12 01:39:00 - [32] Originally by: General Windypops BTW a post by some razor underling about changing some minor corporations to neutral got more reads than this thread. Why are you getting so stroppy here? I'm so unimportant.
Hate Illa Amarr Solar Wind AAA Citizens	Posted - 2009.09.12 02:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Phreeze Originally by: General Windypops BTW a post by some razor underling about changing some minor corporations to neutral got more reads than this thread. Why are you getting so stroppy here? I'm so unimportant. You said it. We all were thinking it.
U Mad Caldari Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.09.12 02:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Hate Illa Originally by: Phreeze Originally by: General Windypops BTW a post by some razor underling about changing some minor corporations to neutral got more reads than this thread. Why are you getting so stroppy here? I'm so unimportant. You said it. We all were thinking it. Thanks for your opinion citizen.
Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.12 02:50:00 - [35] Originally by: U Mad Originally by: Hate Illa Originally by: Phreeze Originally by: General Windypops BTW a post by some razor underling about changing some minor corporations to neutral got more reads than this thread. Why are you getting so stroppy here? I'm so unimportant. You said it. We all were thinking it. Thanks for your opinion citizen. Would you like to know MOAR? ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.09.12 07:02:00 - [36] Originally by: The Mittani looks like the "crap out goonswarm titans until it gets removed" strategy was a success~~~ lol yes that 5% of titans in game that were crapped out was what did it good job
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.12 23:55:00 - [37] Originally by: Scruffy Jed Originally by: The Mittani Against the backdrop of the escalating Great War, the Doomsday came to represent everything that was wrong with the game. The efforts of hundreds of people would be rendered irrellevant in one button-click :laugh: ahahahah yeah that's hilariously hypocritical innit Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.13 00:45:00 - [38] Originally by: Pinza Originally by: The Mittani The Doomsday Epitaph what could be even better than the removal of pos warfare in eve? the removal of doomsdays. itc, we gloat shamelessly about how ccp's lead designer has announced the adjustment of a broken, stupid, ridiculous mechanic that has dominated alliance life for the past three years or so looks like the "crap out goonswarm titans until it gets removed" strategy was a success~~~ You forgot to mention the DD through POS shields. That was my personal favorite. Yeah, been hit with that. It was lame. "Intended game mechanic" my ass. --
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.13 00:55:00 - [39] Mittens: Quote: Yet while the gross imbalance of the remote doomsday was restrained, the number of doomsday-bearing ships was rapidly proliferating. Revelations II ushered in the era of the "Nano Titan", Titans which could fire a doomsday and align to warp out within fifteen seconds. Not at first; remember? Remember when Bob's guys were buying top-tier Officer cap rechargers which had no stacking penalty in order that they could DD and recharge their cap in 10 seconds, and jump out of system? That got nerfed first with the "can't jump out of system for 10 minutes" thing, and that's what ushered in the nano-titans. X --
SK Rooster Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.13 03:16:00 - [40] Originally by: U Mad Originally by: General Windypops Just adding a pity post, as Mittens threads aren't getting much attention these days. I'm delighted these changes look likely, as I've been demanding them for a couple of years now. Show me on the doll where the goons touched you mr. alt. You seem awful bitter. an alt smacking another alt irony overload
Junkie Beverage Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.13 07:24:00 - [41] Originally by: Princess Jodi Fully agree that Doomsdays need a nerf. But I wonder...did you even choke a little bit when you wrote 'Clicking one button to ruin the fun of hundreds of people'? ahahahaha this was a great post lil' disband of brothers reference... i like it
Tebis Amarr BlackTalon Mining Corp G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E	Posted - 2009.09.14 12:42:00 - [42] just curious what will this mean for titans ... i mean depending on the strength of this single target doomsday .. wouldn't it just reduce titans to glorified jump bridges ?
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.14 12:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Tebis just curious what will this mean for titans ... i mean depending on the strength of this single target doomsday .. wouldn't it just reduce titans to glorified jump bridges ? 90% of titans already fill this role anyways. Very few 0.0 entities use titans offensively, they're mostly just used to help with logistics and occasionally drive off an enemy fleet. I think the titan will work better in a support role, since it's a whole hell of a lot easier to kick off an invasion with one in your possession. Just the fleet bonus that those things provide alone can be a lifesaver. If they can make clone vats not suck, either that'd be a plus.
Cupdeez Caldari Out of Order Cult of War	Posted - 2009.09.14 15:13:00 - [44] I think it would be cool if the turrets on a titan were useful.. The DD modual would just super amplify the capital turrets & repair systems. The Titan would still be able to warp with this active but the power requirements to keep it running would be very very extensive. Example: if a titan locked 8 ships (BS or smaller) and fried a gun at the ships the fire power would be so great it would kill that ship and any other ship in that same line. The shoot would not look like a normal hybird, laser, projectile, or torp but something in slow motion so everyone could see it but quick enough so most ships could not move out of the way. It would not matter how tanked a BS, HAC, or HIC was tanked if you were in the line of fire you popped. Tracking on these guns would not be an issue they can hit just about anything they target because the size and power of the shot. The only ships able to take hits from guns on a titan would be capital ships. This would be the only time the guns on a titan would actually use the damage modifier for the turret. 100% instant damage on all sub-capital ships 50-80k per gun hitting a capital ship. 1 min rate of fire per gun 100% tracking quick lock times I think this would be pretty cool. They would still be a hug asset on the field making them worth the isk but not an instant win button.. Basically 8 kills very 1 min plus any other lucky scores with ships on the same line.
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.14 16:33:00 - [45] Originally by: Yakoff Would you like to know MOAR? IT'S A TRAP! Do not answer him... Whatever you do, hold very still... quick... someone toss him a ball of string.
Erovicious Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.14 18:42:00 - [46] Doomsdays have balance issues, agreed, however... Related topic that inflates & complicates Titan issue: Stupid amounts of isk generated by R64's making "crapping out Titans" possible. Would this be such an issue if there were only a handfull of Titans in the game? Ero
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.14 18:47:00 - [47] nah. It was pretty much an "issue" back when there were only 3 in the game...
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.14 18:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Erovicious Doomsdays have balance issues, agreed, however... Related topic that inflates & complicates Titan issue: Stupid amounts of isk generated by R64's making "crapping out Titans" possible. Would this be such an issue if there were only a handfull of Titans in the game? Ero They will probably nerf this by messing around with the other r64's, but having CCP nerf every money method when the market inflates it's value is going to lead to bigger issues down the line. There are R64's around Init space, and in lowsec closer to your space than the owners. Why don't you go for them? That is what CCP should be addressing.
Erovicious Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.14 18:56:00 - [49] Originally by: Pnuka There are R64's around Init space, and in lowsec closer to your space than the owners. Why don't you go for them? That is what CCP should be addressing. A fair question, but my question is not really specific to myself nor my Alliance, but in general. If those moons did not generate such massive income (which is partly market/consumer driven), allowing Titans to be "crapped out" perhaps the Doomsday problem would not be as glaring. Just a thought. Ero
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2009.09.14 19:04:00 - [50] I'm not so sure. I mean, in an alternate universe - Titans don't exist in Eve Online and never have. However, swarms of say, flying bananas do - all bought and paid for by R64 moons. Nerfing the income from R64 moons is yet another shotgun to remove a housefly from your face reaction. For the love of god man, don't give them any ideas or we'll be joisting each other with rusty swords borrowed from WoW gold sellers because CCP decided to remove the ability to make isk in EVE thus forcing us to crash our ships into the sun, and start over on earth_03. Or something. bah.
Pudsy Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.14 19:45:00 - [51] Originally by: sakana i got doomsdayed for the first time ever about 30mins ago. by a ****in goon, quoting dis for irony!!
paracidic Amarr Destructive Influence	Posted - 2009.09.14 22:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Scruffy Jed Originally by: The Mittani Against the backdrop of the escalating Great War, the Doomsday came to represent everything that was wrong with the game. The efforts of hundreds of people would be rendered irrellevant in one button-click :laugh: Absolutely right, why should the efforts of hundreds of people be rendered irrellevent with just one button click? /emote looks at haargoth *********************************************** Everything ever written by a goon or DS1 member is absolutely factual and should not be challanged in anyway.
Tertiacero Caldari Altruism. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.09.14 22:13:00 - [53] Originally by: Cupdeez I think it would be cool if the turrets on a titan were useful.. The DD modual would just super amplify the capital turrets & repair systems. The Titan would still be able to warp with this active but the power requirements to keep it running would be very very extensive. Example: if a titan locked 8 ships (BS or smaller) and fried a gun at the ships the fire power would be so great it would kill that ship and any other ship in that same line. The shoot would not look like a normal hybird, laser, projectile, or torp but something in slow motion so everyone could see it but quick enough so most ships could not move out of the way. It would not matter how tanked a BS, HAC, or HIC was tanked if you were in the line of fire you popped. Tracking on these guns would not be an issue they can hit just about anything they target because the size and power of the shot. The only ships able to take hits from guns on a titan would be capital ships. This would be the only time the guns on a titan would actually use the damage modifier for the turret. 100% instant damage on all sub-capital ships 50-80k per gun hitting a capital ship. 1 min rate of fire per gun 100% tracking quick lock times I think this would be pretty cool. They would still be a hug asset on the field making them worth the isk but not an instant win button.. Basically 8 kills very 1 min plus any other lucky scores with ships on the same line. Let me get this straight... Quick locking, Perfect tracking, Instant killbutton for multiple subcaps, Instant wrecking shots for caps, 60 second cycle time, and not enough time to move out of the way And this will balance titans? Are you a troll?
SK Rooster Gallente No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.14 23:30:00 - [54] Originally by: U Mad Originally by: Hate Illa You said it. We all were thinking it. Thanks for your opinion citizen. thanks for your opinion anonymous alt
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.15 00:11:00 - [55] Originally by: Erovicious Originally by: Pnuka There are R64's around Init space, and in lowsec closer to your space than the owners. Why don't you go for them? That is what CCP should be addressing. A fair question, but my question is not really specific to myself nor my Alliance, but in general. If those moons did not generate such massive income (which is partly market/consumer driven), allowing Titans to be "crapped out" perhaps the Doomsday problem would not be as glaring. Just a thought. Ero Alliances would have nationalized plexes, raised taxes, held more mining ops etc to get them. There are multiple people that have mined for their own personal titan, played the market until they could afford one, etc.
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.15 12:47:00 - [56] while i found bob's disbanding delightful, it doesn't mean that i think that's a good gameplay mechanic. i'd cheer when we'd quad-doomsday bob, too - but that's also bad gameplay. vOv Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
Dianabolic Gallente Reikoku	Posted - 2009.09.15 15:50:00 - [57] Edited by: Dianabolic on 15/09/2009 15:51:27 Originally by: The Mittani while i found bob's disbanding delightful, it doesn't mean that i think that's a good gameplay mechanic. i'd cheer when we'd quad-doomsday bob, too - but that's also bad gameplay. vOv Indeed, so many things that it can be applied to - at the end of the day, "you can, so you should" whilst not always applicable in RL is (pretty much) ALWAYS applicable in EvE.
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.15 17:59:00 - [58] Originally by: Dianabolic Edited by: Dianabolic on 15/09/2009 15:51:27 Originally by: The Mittani while i found bob's disbanding delightful, it doesn't mean that i think that's a good gameplay mechanic. i'd cheer when we'd quad-doomsday bob, too - but that's also bad gameplay. vOv Indeed, so many things that it can be applied to - at the end of the day, "you can, so you should" whilst not always applicable in RL is (pretty much) ALWAYS applicable in EvE. faint but i agree with both of you. Wow, the war really, really is over, huh? --
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.15 18:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Xiaodown Originally by: Dianabolic Edited by: Dianabolic on 15/09/2009 15:51:27 Originally by: The Mittani while i found bob's disbanding delightful, it doesn't mean that i think that's a good gameplay mechanic. i'd cheer when we'd quad-doomsday bob, too - but that's also bad gameplay. vOv Indeed, so many things that it can be applied to - at the end of the day, "you can, so you should" whilst not always applicable in RL is (pretty much) ALWAYS applicable in EvE. faint but i agree with both of you. Wow, the war really, really is over, huh? As far as I can tell, Reikoku are the only ex-BoB corp that have accepted the loss and moved on with their lives, I think they'll be better for it in the long run. I still see a good deal of bitterness from the other members.
Rakessh Caldari Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.09.15 18:40:00 - [60] Originally by: Otakanishj Margaret Thatcher was made Prime Minister coz of Mittani. Didn't u know? See how ebil he is? eeeebil... CEO Arachnea Phoenix Battalion

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