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Soralio Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.12 21:13:00 - [31] Page 2 page 2 page 2! Wait, I wasted my 5 minute post on this? Crap. Originally by: Mrs Ravenfire Originally by: IamBeastx you molest dead corpses? And you? You molest living corpses? I think thats way worse - poor zombies
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces The Laughing Men	Posted - 2009.09.13 05:49:00 - [32] Still no drone bay on the friken Cruiser and Frigate, or slots to do decent damage and neut stupid blood radiers - Emperor
Spaztick Terminal Impact Kairakau	Posted - 2009.09.13 06:51:00 - [33] Originally by: Von Kapiche Originally by: AstroPhobic Did angel ships just get the shaft again or am I imagining things? Mach got a 25% mass reduction & the cyna looks rather better than it was, but ... they're AC boats, what exactly were you expecting to happen? :) Well, now the Mach is a better run-and-gun boat than the Vargur for missions. I'd say they got the shaft, but only because they have to use ACs. Quote: [21:18:10] SFShootme > first a carrier that goes boom, then mr viper had to find one of my goon alts, and now i'm down 182b ;(
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.09.13 08:11:00 - [34] Manu Hermanus said "Pottsey you have interesting dreams " the low damage is just such a ball breaker" Well you have two options 450dps from drones or more from sent drones with rigs then 3 tractor beams and 3 salvagers. Ok it might not be the fastest way to do missions but it is the easiest. Or you have 450dps from drones and 273dps torps without mods, 470 with 3 navy mods. So thats 723 to 920dps (navy ammo). I don't call 920dps low dps for a 30km+ range setup. With the high tank you should be able to fit some target painters or drone mods. With the low dependency on cap I bet you could solo level 5 missions. This is all without rigs. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Manu Hermanus FaDoyToy	Posted - 2009.09.13 09:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Pottsey Manu Hermanus said "Pottsey you have interesting dreams " the low damage is just such a ball breaker" Well you have two options 450dps from drones or more from sent drones with rigs then 3 tractor beams and 3 salvagers. Ok it might not be the fastest way to do missions but it is the easiest. Or you have 450dps from drones and 273dps torps without mods, 470 with 3 navy mods. So thats 723 to 920dps (navy ammo). I don't call 920dps low dps for a 30km+ range setup. With the high tank you should be able to fit some target painters or drone mods. With the low dependency on cap I bet you could solo level 5 missions. This is all without rigs. domi can do that first bit just fine. and I will disagree that is is the easiest, and insist upon it is the laziest. the torps are decent, but well 1100+ dps from the nightmare, and 1300 dps golem has corrupted me, a few more launchers and the snake would be perfect
Quiley	Posted - 2009.09.13 10:56:00 - [36] Rattlesnake òBonuses: pirate: 50% to cruise and torpedo missile velocity, Caldari battleship: +5% to all shield resistances per level, Gallente battleship: +10% to drone damage and hitpoints per level òDronebay: 125m3 bandwidth, 400m3 dronebay wwwwat?!
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces The Laughing Men	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:30:00 - [37] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 12/09/2009 16:11:35 Also, 40km Bhaalgorn is totally fair and I will buy and fly this ship. [Bhaalgorn, Sex] Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x5 Neuts 3000 cap every 24 seconds from 40km (or 131 cap per second), does 560 DPS from 40km, webs from 40km, points you from 40km... This is cool. :) And get's Perma Jammed from a Falcon at 100km (also you silly man, ..Pirate implants... Talismans... C'mon, You got to have them instead of trimakrs, Might even be a Super Stealth bonus from doing so - Emperor
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Emperor Ryan Still no drone bay on the friken Cruiser and Frigate, or slots to do decent damage and neut stupid blood radiers Bahaha, you dont know what you're talking about. The Ashimmu has too MUCH dammage - it has 4 lasers +100% damage bonus which equals MORE damage than the Phantasm's 3 lasers +100% +25%, and the ashimmu has the bonussed neuts and webs AS WELL. Ashimmu needs to lose a turret slot. _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces The Laughing Men	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:44:00 - [39] Originally by: El Yatta Originally by: Emperor Ryan Still no drone bay on the friken Cruiser and Frigate, or slots to do decent damage and neut stupid blood radiers Bahaha, you dont know what you're talking about. The Ashimmu has too MUCH dammage - it has 4 lasers +100% damage bonus which equals MORE damage than the Phantasm's 3 lasers +100% +25%, and the ashimmu has the bonussed neuts and webs AS WELL. Ashimmu needs to lose a turret slot. Missed that when i had posted it tbh only skimmed over the thread, and i was well wtf did the change for Blood's i saw it later ^^ - Emperor
Jennz	Posted - 2009.09.13 11:50:00 - [40] ITT: Siigari set to lose yet another GTC funded ebil ship.

Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.09.13 12:07:00 - [41] Originally by: Soralio Originally by: CCP Ytterbium Gila: òSlot layout: 5 high, 6 med, 4 low slots, 3 launchers, no turrets òFittings: 350 CPU, 630 powergrid òBonuses: pirate: 50% to heavy and heavy assault missile velocity, Caldari cruiser: +5% to all shield resistances per level, Gallente cruiser: +10% to drone damage and hitpoints per level òHitpoints: 3188 shields, 2325 armor, 2490 hull òCapacitor: 1375 capacitor, 491.25s recharge (about 2.8 cap/s) òDronebay: 125m3 drone bandwidth, 400m3 drone bay òSpeed: 164m/s max velocity, 0.66 agility, 9,600,000kg òSensor: 55km targeting range, 7 locked targets, 275mm scan resolution, 22 gravimetric sensor strength, 150m signature radius Quote: Dronebay: 125m3 drone bandwidth, 400m3 drone bay Quote: 125m3 drone bandwidth Quote: 125m3 Yeah, I saw that as well. Oh God I'm going to be so happy, a super-tanked missile Ishtar on crack. checks hangar Yep, got one sat next my Phantasm looking all envious. Not long now my pretty. Soon you'll be packing sentries, AML's and neuts, oh yes. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Nogomojo 1st Recon	Posted - 2009.09.13 12:08:00 - [42] so why dotn u go buy one! thats right u cant coz all pirateships are now the tools of greedy a holes to make isk. this is the absolute dummest thing ccp has done yet!!
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.09.13 12:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Nogomojo so why dotn u go buy one! thats right u cant coz all pirateships are now the tools of greedy a holes to make isk. this is the absolute dummest thing ccp has done yet!! Your outrage at a free market economy amuses me. This is Eve. This is what happens. You could always go grind the faction LP yourself and get one that way, but if you can't be bothered expect to pay what people are charging. I remember when t2 first came out... waiting lists combined with high prices and yet, somehow, life went on and people still flew them in pvp. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Nogomojo 1st Recon	Posted - 2009.09.13 12:44:00 - [44] blah blah this is eve! yeah what a mature comment! free market wee wee! yeah whatever ****! u obviously fail to see this is soemthign they do to sell more timecodes for isk! so go sit on the greedystick
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.09.13 13:02:00 - [45] Originally by: Nogomojo mature comment! Indeed. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Junko Togawa Caldari	Posted - 2009.09.13 13:45:00 - [46] Originally by: Nogomojo blah blah this is eve! yeah what a mature comment! free market wee wee! yeah whatever ****! u obviously fail to see this is soemthign they do to sell more timecodes for isk! so go sit on the greedystick This post is so win. I lol'ed IRL.
Sajeera	Posted - 2009.09.13 14:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 12/09/2009 16:11:35 Also, 40km Bhaalgorn is totally fair and I will buy and fly this ship. [Bhaalgorn, Sex] Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Draclira's Modified Heat Sink Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Draclira's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x5 Neuts 3000 cap every 24 seconds from 40km (or 131 cap per second), does 560 DPS from 40km, webs from 40km, points you from 40km... This is cool. :) I too, like overhyped EFT warriors with 20+ bil setups You will not fly this even in high sec, what left for low or 0.0, where 2 guys in cheap insured battleships will roflstomp you and get rich just from the loot. Im sure they will laugh so hard you will hear them in Jita when you wake up in the clone vat. *Insert random zomg Golem setup with 235246126 x Estamel Invul Fields
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.09.13 15:08:00 - [48] Sajeera said " You will not fly this even in high sec, what left for low or 0.0, where 2 guys in cheap insured battleships will roflstomp you and get rich just from the loot." Ok a bit pointless me saying this as I agree its not a relastic setup someone is going to use. Not done the math but at a glance I don't see how two battleships could eat though that buffer before Concord do there thing. It looks like it has a large hitpoint pool, could to battleships eat though that pool before concord? ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Sajeera	Posted - 2009.09.13 15:14:00 - [49] Originally by: Pottsey Sajeera said " You will not fly this even in high sec, what left for low or 0.0, where 2 guys in cheap insured battleships will roflstomp you and get rich just from the loot." Ok a bit pointless me saying this as I agree its not a relastic setup someone is going to use. Not done the math but at a glance I don't see how two battleships could eat though that buffer before Concord do there thing. It looks like it has a large hitpoint pool, could to battleships eat though that pool before concord? I said "..what left for low or 0.0, where 2 guys in cheap insured battleships will roflstomp you" Ofc 2 are not enough for high sec, make them 10 or 20 - cheap and insured they will lost nearly nothing, but you......
Davina Braben	Posted - 2009.09.13 15:19:00 - [50] You guys are failing to understand how nuts Siig is :D He will fly it in PVP. It will pop. It will be loud on vent.

Darius Brinn Gallente Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Emergence.	Posted - 2009.09.14 13:35:00 - [51] Holy crap, look at the Gila. 125 drone bandwith. Ishtar: 1406 shields, 1618 base armor, 2109 hull. New Gila: 3188 shields, 2325 base armor, 2490 hull. And one more mid. I don't know its price tag, but here we have an Ishtar with considerably better tank, with one more midslot (PvPers and shield tankers rejoice), better scan resolution (this means faster targetting, right?) and only a slight (181 vs 164) max speed disadvantage. CCP definitely wants to see pirates using pirate ships. Good God.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.14 13:49:00 - [52] Still don't get why the faction ships can't be a little more powerful than T2. They're a lot more rare, and prices were high even before this change - Expect them to skyrocket even higher. Balances it out i think :) "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.09.14 15:22:00 - [53] Unfortunately cost will be the prohibitive factor. It's all well and good the Gila being better than the Ishtar, but at what cost? Everyone would use T3 cruisers now if it weren't for the cost vs risk ratio. The more they cost, the greater the likelihood if nothing else of them being primaried which goes some way to negating the omgwtfpwn buff they get. Not saying these new ships aren't great because they are, but they will also be significantly more expensive than T2.
Thingymawotzit	Posted - 2009.09.15 04:54:00 - [54] Originally by: Emperor Ryan And get's Perma Jammed from a Falcon at 100km (also you silly man, ..Pirate implants... Talismans... C'mon, You got to have them instead of trimakrs, Might even be a Super Stealth bonus from doing so WTF?!? Are you completely ******ed? Heres a Quick FYI: 1. Talismans - Are implants. Not rigs. They do not take the place of trimarks. 2. Trimarks - Are rigs. They cannot be swapped out with talismans, however you can have both
Shardrael Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.15 07:30:00 - [55] Originally by: Drakan290 1. You don't officer fit a Bhaalgorn like that; it's a beacon to pirates. 2. I love ship changes, and GOD DAMN are they for the better; but there IS a thread specifically for dominion changes. If you're theorycrafting I think that would be a good use of a post, but as of right now your thread contributes nothing but overpriced never flown officer mod setups and commentary that could be posted in the appropriate thread. 3. You linked the thread; go reply to THAT. if you think siigari is any kind of an authority on how to fit a ship properly you are sadly mistake Signature locked. Please submit a petition to discuss the matter further. Navigator


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