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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:31:00 -
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WHY??? NEED MOAR MISSILES K THX |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
576
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:42:00 -
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Funny fact: that last 'missile' spot isn't even used if you put a tractor or salvager on it.  Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
333
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:44:00 -
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It's a spare, you have 5 wheels on your car (6 of your a smart ass and waht to include steering) but you only use 4 od then to drive  |

Luis Graca
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:44:00 -
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i usually use the last slot to rep the hostiles CCP SUCKS |

Plaude Pollard
Crimson Cartel
35
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:05:00 -
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Or, you know, zoom out so you can't see any details on your ship at all. |

Ayame Tao
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:05:00 -
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Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. |

pussnheels
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:38:00 -
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and a raven doesn't even have missile launcher visible and still it has 6 hardpoints ......so what is your point , unles you are demanding a 8 th missile hardpoint , in that case stop whining you will never get that I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:39:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint.
Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad.
Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff. |

Kaito Kurusaki
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:30:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:
Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad.
You mean the patchnotes that doesn't exist?  |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:45:00 -
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Kaito Kurusaki wrote: You mean the patchnotes that doesn't exist? 
He means devblogs. But he's right; nano drakes are going to become EVEN MORE PREVALENT. I only ever emerge from the shadows when my main is banned. |
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Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
92
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:59:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Kaito Kurusaki wrote: You mean the patchnotes that doesn't exist?  He means devblogs. But he's right; nano drakes are going to become EVEN MORE PREVALENT.
Apparently I do mean devblogs, Im sure I saw patchnotes somewhere, either way, NO MORE NANO DRAEKS PLZ |

THE L0CK
Denying You Access
432
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:05:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:and a raven doesn't even have missile launcher visible and still it has 6 hardpoints ......so what is your point , unles you are demanding a 8 th missile hardpoint , in that case stop whining you will never get that
You may want to look closer now. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
249
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Posted - 2012.06.05 13:49:00 -
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I sense people may be overlooking the OP's true intent. When you physically look at it, the drake now has 7 missile launchers and an empty box at the rear of the ship. That box looks so lonely, why can't he have a date too? Is it his breath? You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |

Ayame Tao
55
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:32:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad. Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff.
How is losing a large Kinetic bonus (and gaining a smaller omni bonus) plus RoF and missile velocity more DPS?
It might be, if you know, the primary habitat of the Drake wasn't Caldari space where they have Guristas.
So the Drake will likely (based on the conjecture we know so far) have less tank (from reduced base resist and reduced regen) and less damage for their most common use - running level 3 and 4 PvE missions in Caldari space.
Granted, the Drake will now have much broader appeal and will actually be a better ship with the changes and will be a much better PvP ship. But it will lose DPS and tank against it's previously favoured kinetic weak foes.
So it's kinda part nerf and part buff I suppose.
Still think it should get an 8th launcher making it a proper full function missile platform - considering it's to be retasked as an 'artillery' platform.
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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
55
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:36:00 -
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No nerf needed, just another missile launcher slot, thanks CCP! |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2014
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:37:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad. Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff. How is losing a large Kinetic bonus (and gaining a smaller omni bonus) plus RoF and missile velocity more DPS? It might be, if you know, the primary habitat of the Drake wasn't Caldari space where they have Guristas. So the Drake will likely (based on the conjecture we know so far) have less tank (from reduced base resist and reduced regen) and less damage for their most common use - running level 3 and 4 PvE missions in Caldari space. Granted, the Drake will now have much broader appeal and will actually be a better ship with the changes and will be a much better PvP ship. But it will lose DPS and tank against it's previously favoured kinetic weak foes. So it's kinda part nerf and part buff I suppose. Still think it should get an 8th launcher making it a proper full function missile platform - considering it's to be retasked as an 'artillery' platform.
A ROF bonus provides more damage than a simple damage bonus of the same size.
The damage potential has been increased, along with I believe range, while it's tanking ability will be decreased. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2014
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:39:00 -
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... and yes, the model needs to be towards the top of the list now to be reworked, and hardpoints need to be redistributed.
No extra missile launcher hard point is necessary. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
806
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:40:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad. Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff. How is losing a large Kinetic bonus (and gaining a smaller omni bonus) plus RoF and missile velocity more DPS? It might be, if you know, the primary habitat of the Drake wasn't Caldari space where they have Guristas. So the Drake will likely (based on the conjecture we know so far) have less tank (from reduced base resist and reduced regen) and less damage for their most common use - running level 3 and 4 PvE missions in Caldari space. Granted, the Drake will now have much broader appeal and will actually be a better ship with the changes and will be a much better PvP ship. But it will lose DPS and tank against it's previously favoured kinetic weak foes. So it's kinda part nerf and part buff I suppose. Still think it should get an 8th launcher making it a proper full function missile platform - considering it's to be retasked as an 'artillery' platform. If you do the math it comes to about a 8% increase in damage for kin missiles I think, and 12% for the rest... I might be misremembering the stats, but it is an increase either way.
As for the drake... visually this annoys me, though I wouldn't want an 8th missile without some more balance... which may happen with the Tier death.
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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
258
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:40:00 -
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Ayame Tao wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad. Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff. How is losing a large Kinetic bonus (and gaining a smaller omni bonus) plus RoF and missile velocity more DPS? It might be, if you know, the primary habitat of the Drake wasn't Caldari space where they have Guristas. So the Drake will likely (based on the conjecture we know so far) have less tank (from reduced base resist and reduced regen) and less damage for their most common use - running level 3 and 4 PvE missions in Caldari space. Granted, the Drake will now have much broader appeal and will actually be a better ship with the changes and will be a much better PvP ship. But it will lose DPS and tank against it's previously favoured kinetic weak foes. So it's kinda part nerf and part buff I suppose. Still think it should get an 8th launcher making it a proper full function missile platform - considering it's to be retasked as an 'artillery' platform.
To me its nothing more than a retuning of the ships role from a viable pve option to a viable pvp one. They took a little tank away which should make those who face down drake shield logi blobs a little happier and gave it across the board dps which doesnt pigeonhole it to kinetic damage and the extra mmphin velocity slightly makes up for missiles main weakness in pvp, lack of alpha and dps application. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |

Foder Enaka
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:56:00 -
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Probably if you read the bonus on battlecruiser it would make sense too you. 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. If that still confuses you then get someone to read the big words too you. |
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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
258
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:58:00 -
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Foder Enaka wrote:Probably if you read the bonus on battlecruiser it would make sense too you. 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. If that still confuses you then get someone to read the big words too you.
I seriously doubt many people use the drake as a command ship.  You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:07:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:It's a spare, you have 5 wheels on your car (6 of your a smart ass and want to include steering) but you only use 4 of then to drive 
5 of them. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |

adopt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
399
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:20:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:It's a spare, you have 5 wheels on your car (6 of your a smart ass and want to include steering) but you only use 4 of then to drive 
Actually, to be completely technical, cars have between 10 and 50 wheels. You are excluding the gears, flywheel, camshaft/crankshaft heads. No only that the break disks can be considered wheels as they are also circular in shape. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS |

Superpooper
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:52:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:It's a spare, you have 5 wheels on your car (6 of your a smart ass and want to include steering) but you only use 4 of then to drive 
Not even funny, no cars do not have 5 (called run flats for cars with no spares...) Way more than 6 if you want to count the steering wheel... Last time I checked that "5th wheel" was a spare I could use, do tell me how to use the spare hard point on the drake?
O also... I use my steering wheel to drive... idk how the **** you can drive with out one?
I guess we smart ass you dumb ass? |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1791
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Posted - 2012.06.06 01:33:00 -
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Superpooper wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:It's a spare, you have 5 wheels on your car (6 of your a smart ass and want to include steering) but you only use 4 of then to drive  Not even funny, no cars do not have 5 (called run flats for cars with no spares...) Way more than 6 if you want to count the steering wheel... Last time I checked that "5th wheel" was a spare I could use, do tell me how to use the spare hard point on the drake? O also... I use my steering wheel to drive... idk how the **** you can drive with out one? I guess we smart ass you dumb ass?
It's a spare High Slot on the drake. If you want to fill the 8th hard point on the Drake model, fit a salvager to it. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |

Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:48:00 -
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OP forgot to mention the fact the draek still has it's modelled-in launchers. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
578
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:29:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:Would be nice if this was part of the rebalance to the Drake, considering the shield regen and kinetic bonus are getting reduced, would be nice to have the 8th launcher hardpoint. Your ability to read patch notes is bad, and you should feel bad. Drake is getting more DPS (With an all damage types bonus) and more Range, it is not a nerf its a buff.
Considering the tank is the Drakes biggest selling point, range never really was an issue and CCP will never give it enough DPS to really be competitive (and it are still missiles we're talking about here), it IS a nerf.
The reason of the Drake's popularity isn''t because it's so grossly overpowered, but because it's one of the very few ships in EVE that has a very well-defined role for which it has little competition. 'Bringing it more in line' with the other ships would just be the most stupid thing to do and will make Tiercide a failure. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt
Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Soldarius
TreadStone Standard The 99 Percent
225
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:33:00 -
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wtf is this blarf? seven = seven. Not eight. Not six. Not nine. Seven.
And the CEOs spake saying "First thou shalt purchase thy missiles, then thou shalt fit launchers to the count of seven, nor more, no less. Seven shall be the number thou fit, and the number of the fitting shall be seven. Eight shalt thou not fit, neither fit thou six, excepting that thou then proceed to seven. Nine is right out. Once the number seven, being the seventh number, be fitted, then lobbest thou missiles towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:55:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:wtf is this blarf? seven = seven. Not eight. Not six. Not nine. Seven.
And the CEOs spake saying "First thou shalt purchase thy missiles, then thou shalt fit launchers to the count of seven, nor more, no less. Seven shall be the number thou fit, and the number of the fitting shall be seven. Eight shalt thou not fit, neither fit thou six, excepting that thou then proceed to seven. Nine is right out. Once the number seven, being the seventh number, be fitted, then lobbest thou missiles towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
5... 6.... 9! [7, sir] Right, 7!! Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |

Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
804
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:16:00 -
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Well actually that has to do with the State Issue Drake which...
o wait...
not supposed to talk about that. 
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