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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 12:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Rellik B00n
****ing idiots of course they need removing.
Big proof a maturity here, sure gives you more credibility.
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its been done to death and CCP have proved that whilst they can completely alter something like rig BPOs overnight without caring they are far to scared of T2 BPO owners to make the right move.
So, according to you CCP isn't afraid of affecting thousands of players, yet is afraid of affecting hundreds of them. Nice logic you have here....
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The only people fighting to keep them are the people that own them.
I don't have one, but I don't want CCP to remove them.
You still haven't answered the big question: Why should CCP do it?
The "no income should be safe in a station" is the most valid one I heard yet, but it still fail. Because every T1 BPC is just as safe, as is datacore farming. Should we remove all of that from the game as well?
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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Comrade Commizzar
BPO's should be removed for two basic reasons...
1) It is inherently bad game design to build into a game any "advantage" mechanism that is not universally available to or capable of being achieved by ALL players in the game. (The principle of a "level playing field".)
Your "level playing field" also lead to the suppression of event ships, and everyone starting with 100 millions SP, because it's unfair that older players should have an advantage over new ones, right?
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2) The fact that the BPO's can be bought and sold only makes matters worse because this means that the strategically important BPO's will eventually migrate into the hands of a few alliances which will permanently bias ship production costs in their favor, giving them an advantage in any "war of attrition".
A/ It's already the case, has been for years. Most T2 ships BPOs belong to 0.0 corps.
B/ The attrition argument is crap. Wars are won or lost with morale. Isk doesn't matter.
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As another poster above mentioned, BPO's are not the only problem in Eve. The static nature of non-depleting moon mining operations is even more of an imbalance problem than the BPO's.
R64 moons need a nerf, yes. But T2 bpos are such a non-factor at corp/alliance level that considering them a signifiant advantage is being really ignorant of null-sec management.
As an exemple, one minmatar outpost in a decent system with about 100 real players based in will bring you enough mineral with a 10% reprocess tax to equal or exceed the income from 3 HAS BPOs.
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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: small chimp
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
It's not "greed and envy" at all, in my case at least.
I just like to manufacture my own ammo and wish i could do the same with T2 Drones.
Why don't you just buy some bpo for them?
I assume you mean BPC?
It's simpler to just buy the drones than have to keep buying copies, or messing around with invention.
Didn't you just say that you liked to build your own drones? Why buy them then?
Anyway, even if T2 bpos were removed, you'd always find cheaper than building cost on the market, because there's no shortage of fools.
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Shadowsword
Epsilon Lyr
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowsword on 16/09/2009 08:33:29
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I've yet to see any T2 Drone BPO's for sale, anywhere, for some reason people don't want to part with their limited edition items. And like i said, i find it too much of a bother to keep messing around with copies instead of just having a BPO i can research and use indefinitely.
/more coffee is required
Here a Drone BPO for sale: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1178223
If you're serious about wanting to get rid of T2 bpos, buy it and trash it.
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