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Magestic	Posted - 2009.09.16 15:19:00 - [31] OK , you didnt google very hard, 1st thread up is http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1122269/page/1 there is alot of dps from this plex , and can only be done passive something like a drake / NH / broadsword is good then also have another ship along for dps, with remote shield bots also, as a t2 fit drake all passive and 80% resists to em/therm will not survive, but with 5 small shield bots and a large shield repper on a raven it will btw, all this for a BC dark blood rat , is hardly worth it
debbie harrio	Posted - 2009.09.16 15:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Magestic there is alot of dps from this plex , and can only be done passive garbage.
Vaerk One Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.09.16 17:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Irdia Freelancer Edited by: Irdia Freelancer on 15/09/2009 21:20:42 1500 mil loss? Only costs about 500 mil to buy T3 ship plus subs. It may have cost you more when you purchased your ship, but the prices come down a lot. Put up highest price buy orders and its about 500 mil to buy. If its only 500 mil to replace the ship, you lost the other 1000 mil just from the market changing? Or did you have very expensive mods on it - then its not the ship cost but fittings. Does it matter? I mean, really? Not trolling you or anything but are you really that picky with the choice of words? 1500mill is 1500mill, whether expensive mods on a t1 frig, jacked up prices on T3 or whatever, he still lost 1500mill.
Ulstan	Posted - 2009.09.16 18:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Dedin II Originally by: Manu Hermanus remote rep? Well obviously. My concern is getting instantly locked down where you can't even run. I was dead before I even entered the complex because there was no way for me to escape. I understand this is EvE and all but losing 1.5bil without even having a chance is a kick in the nuts. Exploration is supposed to be dangerous. I recommend checking out new sites with cheap ships to get an idea of how hard it is before running your 1.5b pride and joy into it.
SK Rooster No Trademark	Posted - 2009.09.17 00:50:00 - [35] Originally by: fmercury Obviously not with an active tanked legion.
Loco Eve	Posted - 2009.09.17 01:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Kane Drae Originally by: Trevor Sol I think one of the big takeaways from this is that no matter how expensive a ship is you can lose it in a heartbeat if the situation is wrong. No one ship is built for everything, really. Unless of course you have a Jovian ship :P that's nice, I've got 4.
Noxic	Posted - 2009.09.17 11:28:00 - [37] Ok You sir are an Epic Nooblet. Yes a Nooblet. Go buy a Command ship and stop spending mommys money on game time cards your skills are obviously not up to the challenge of figuring out why passive tank ships rule over active in plexes. a T3 cruiser is rich mans playtoy used for looking good and running around claiming you have the best tank in eve. Go fit a BC with t2 rigs or a command ship with faction loot worth a billion isk you will get more fun out of that than a crappy legion. Fin.
Kzintee Caldari	Posted - 2009.09.17 17:37:00 - [38] Originally by: Dedin II So I lost a Legion earlier today in a Minor Blood Annex complex(no DED rating). This legion had a 800dps omni tank and has no problems with anything up to class 3 wormholes. I scanned down the site and gave a quick Google search for any information and didn't find anything relevant. I warp in and instapop a frigate. Within 15 seconds I'm nueted, warp scrammed, webbed, and in another 30 seconds...dead. I was cap drained within 15 seconds of entering the site and unable to regen cap. How exactly are you to survive an encounter like this without a passive tanked missile shooting boat? Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Intel saves lives. I couldn't find any info on Blood Minor, so I went in with my buffer Abso. Encountered the same problem as you (I also popped a trigger) and got out with 5% armor left. You COULD have found out all this if you had only bothered to google for "eve blood minor annex" and second hit brings up a post written by ... me, recanting my experience in this plex. But, you chose not to search for intel, and you paid for it. Next time you will be more careful.
s3xplicity Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.17 22:27:00 - [39] Originally by: XXSketchxx Originally by: fmercury Obviously not with an active tanked legion. +1 you win this thread qft
Ellspeth Murdron Caldari Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.20 12:07:00 - [40] Originally by: Apple Ginger And I thought suicide was painless? I love that holovid =)
Chack'Nul	Posted - 2009.09.22 07:07:00 - [41] Edited by: Chack''Nul on 22/09/2009 07:07:45 Just don't do blood raider sites with active tanked ships, I soloed minor sansha annex with a domi, lots of battleships, but lol, no neutralisers, still a very hard plex with almost 20 BS and support, ended up losing the dominix becase the escalation lead me to rogue drones, who melted through my sanshas tank like hot butter.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.09.22 11:43:00 - [42] I run the Blood sites using a gank Zealot with a single range mod .. gives me 35+km range using scorch which allows me to stay clear of the 30km NPC Super-Nos they deploy. Right tool for job beats ISK almost every time, especially against NPC's. If or when you go against Sansha you will have zero effective range due to TD spam so speed and tank to close and nuke becomes the correct tool. Sorry for the loss. Now get back in the ****pit and go do it right!
Kiran Minmatar BETA Industries Blood Rose Syndicate Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.23 17:30:00 - [43] If you dont know what your going into use a cheap ship or a pod. Also never fly more ISK than your willing to loose. So in terms of your post you was willing to loose the 1.5 billion. Dont cry about it.
Ralavina	Posted - 2009.09.23 17:55:00 - [44] Originally by: Dedin II So I lost a Legion earlier today in a Minor Blood Annex complex(no DED rating). This legion had a 800dps omni tank and has no problems with anything up to class 3 wormholes. I scanned down the site and gave a quick Google search for any information and didn't find anything relevant. I warp in and instapop a frigate. Within 15 seconds I'm nueted, warp scrammed, webbed, and in another 30 seconds...dead. I was cap drained within 15 seconds of entering the site and unable to regen cap. How exactly are you to survive an encounter like this without a passive tanked missile shooting boat? There's a couple of serpentis ones like that too... fun times. I use ishtars with wardens to get the neut batteries, but I've lost several ishtars doing the logistics outpost (serpentis) sites. I've stopped doing them now because they **** me off so much. Ralara's banned again so this is my alt :p
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2009.09.23 19:55:00 - [45] u got omgwtfpwnbbq'ed... Thats eve... Live with it or seriously consider some other game. This is not a 'OMG GTFO AND GO PLAY WOW!!!!111ONE!!!' post, it's just the way it is. ________________________________________________
Dedin II	Posted - 2009.09.23 20:41:00 - [46] Edited by: Dedin II on 23/09/2009 20:42:33 I didn't expect this to get so many replies. Anyway, I recovered and moved to 0.0 where the rats don't neut. I did learn from the experience. I ran the Pith Penal Complex(8/10) this morning. This was after at least 45 minutes of research on the site. It paid off and I never dropped below 90% armor. Gotta brag on the loots Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith B-Type Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field Not bad for 2 hours solo.
MaxxOmega Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2009.09.23 23:41:00 - [47] Originally by: Noxic Ok You sir are an Epic Nooblet. Yes a Nooblet. Go buy a Command ship and stop spending mommys money on game time cards your skills are obviously not up to the challenge of figuring out why passive tank ships rule over active in plexes. a T3 cruiser is rich mans playtoy used for looking good and running around claiming you have the best tank in eve. Go fit a BC with t2 rigs or a command ship with faction loot worth a billion isk you will get more fun out of that than a crappy legion. Fin. And you are an Epic Jerk Off ***. Why not try giving the guy some constructive advice instead of simply being a complete knob... And to the OP don't waste yer time looking for ship advice if you can help it. This forum is full of losers whose only advice is "fly something different" no matter what ship you are flying and believe they are quite witty by saying ** like "quit whining" or "go play wow"...
HottyChick	Posted - 2009.09.26 02:50:00 - [48] Hi Sorry to hear but little advise: 1.Always warp in 1st in ur cov op(cloaked) or in ur pod to check the site out. 2.Don't use T3 in wh's unless you wanna get ganked and loose ur T3(some ppl only wait for it) 3.Why do you use ship worth 1,5bil(in fact its much less) if u can use passive missile boat worth 40-50mil and do same job(a bit slower but without risking 1,5bil)?

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